Tuner really worth it?

dgt_mustang · January 10th, 2008, 05:13 PM

from what i see you can only change so many things with a tuner, your probably better off going to a dyno and getting custom tunes, am i in the wrong ballpark with this?

HMUSN · January 10th, 2008, 05:30 PM

You are indeed in the wrong ballpark.
I would get one.

dgt_mustang · January 10th, 2008, 05:36 PM

if everyone says that these "canned tunes" are no good, then why still invest in a tuner? besides the diagnostic side of it.

tjames · January 10th, 2008, 05:40 PM

because when you buy a tuner, they ask you for what mods you have and made you custom "canned tunes" but also when you go to a performance shop and have it dyno tuned you can store that tune on your handheld tuner, so you can switch to that when you need a more ratical tune for the track or whatever or you can switch to a less radical tune for fuel economy

HMUSN · January 10th, 2008, 05:42 PM

you can make custom tunes as well.
Send your tuner a data log file and he will make one for your car.

itschristorres8 · January 10th, 2008, 05:42 PM

id order it from vmp he's preloaded tunes are probably better

xcal2 ftw

GreenFaleen · January 10th, 2008, 05:44 PM

the tuner has the capability of using canned tunes, but if you want a dyno tune you can put that in the tuner, and if you are getting an extreme dyno tune, driving with that tune all the time isn't the best idea always

dgt_mustang · January 10th, 2008, 05:51 PM

oh.....any other great aspects of having the tuner? i can see why i was in the wrong ballpark. i have the diablo tuner, i installed it today on my car, slightly better but im still playin around on the inside with it.

itschristorres8 · January 10th, 2008, 05:57 PM

if you dont know what your doing and dont have an a/f or a dyno or something to read whats going on with your spark then DO NOT change parameters

you can lean out or make your car run rich
running lean is worse
horrible on the cylinders and pistons, performance
and running too rich for to long can cause so much carbon it can clog your cats
then you'll literally have just a blocked air way you'll notice your car getting slower til its fully blocked or blocked so much it wont idle or start normal or at all!

not to mention pollution to our earth

dgt_mustang · January 10th, 2008, 05:58 PM

That sounds like.....a horror story or something......i only installed the diablo base tune on there.

itschristorres8 · January 10th, 2008, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by dgt_mustang

That sounds like.....a horror story or something......i only installed the diablo base tune on there.

lol well i didnt mention that you'd have to be running pretty rich for a while!
but running lean can cause horrible problems FAST
just dont play with the parameters that deal with spark and airfuel

dgt_mustang · January 10th, 2008, 06:03 PM

yeah, not messin with those, only thing i did mess with related to air and fuel was turning the rear 02 sensors off, made my service light go away, cuz my cats are gutted.

jacutis · January 10th, 2008, 06:27 PM

I think I may be running lean after installing my BBK CAI. The original they sent me, kept setting off my CEL. Codes read that the mixture was lean on moth banks, but after calling BBK, they sent me a new air tube that was choked down a little on where the MAF sensor plugs in. As stated in another post, the engine knocks on hard accelerations, but my CEL does not come on. SHould I be worrid that I am still runing too lean since it knocks on acceleration BTW, I did move up to 89 Octane and that seemed to help the knocks a little. I probably will not be able to afford a dyno tune for a couple of months or so.

itschristorres8 · January 11th, 2008, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by jacutis

I think I may be running lean after installing my BBK CAI. The original they sent me, kept setting off my CEL. Codes read that the mixture was lean on moth banks, but after calling BBK, they sent me a new air tube that was choked down a little on where the MAF sensor plugs in. As stated in another post, the engine knocks on hard accelerations, but my CEL does not come on. SHould I be worrid that I am still runing too lean since it knocks on acceleration BTW, I did move up to 89 Octane and that seemed to help the knocks a little. I probably will not be able to afford a dyno tune for a couple of months or so.

unless you have a s197 stang you shouldnt be running lean

MWWarlord · January 11th, 2008, 12:13 AM

+1 tuners rock! Get a custom tune. It will make a real difference in your cars performance.

jacutis · January 11th, 2008, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by itschristorres8

unless you have a s197 stang you shouldnt be running lean

Please help, what is the "s197" stang?

jacutis · January 11th, 2008, 12:40 PM

NM, I looked it up. and yes, mine is a S197. I have a 07 V6 stang

January 10th, 2008, 05:30 PM	#2
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	You are indeed in the wrong ballpark. I would get one. __________________

January 10th, 2008, 05:42 PM	#5
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	you can make custom tunes as well. Send your tuner a data log file and he will make one for your car. __________________

January 10th, 2008, 05:42 PM	#6
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	id order it from vmp he's preloaded tunes are probably better xcal2 ftw __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

January 10th, 2008, 05:44 PM	#7
GreenFaleen MM's Resident Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.001@113 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 9,880 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	the tuner has the capability of using canned tunes, but if you want a dyno tune you can put that in the tuner, and if you are getting an extreme dyno tune, driving with that tune all the time isn't the best idea always __________________ Scion Tc Turbo - 9psi 297whp 287wtq 2500lbs :p MM 4 Banger club: Senior Ricer NCMM #9 "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby

January 10th, 2008, 05:57 PM	#9
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	if you dont know what your doing and dont have an a/f or a dyno or something to read whats going on with your spark then DO NOT change parameters you can lean out or make your car run rich running lean is worse horrible on the cylinders and pistons, performance and running too rich for to long can cause so much carbon it can clog your cats then you'll literally have just a blocked air way you'll notice your car getting slower til its fully blocked or blocked so much it wont idle or start normal or at all! not to mention pollution to our earth __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

January 10th, 2008, 06:27 PM	#13
jacutis Regular 2007 V6 Coupe unknown Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 50 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think I may be running lean after installing my BBK CAI. The original they sent me, kept setting off my CEL. Codes read that the mixture was lean on moth banks, but after calling BBK, they sent me a new air tube that was choked down a little on where the MAF sensor plugs in. As stated in another post, the engine knocks on hard accelerations, but my CEL does not come on. SHould I be worrid that I am still runing too lean since it knocks on acceleration BTW, I did move up to 89 Octane and that seemed to help the knocks a little. I probably will not be able to afford a dyno tune for a couple of months or so. __________________ V6, BBK CIA, Hurst Short throw, GT Takeoff exhaust

January 11th, 2008, 12:13 AM	#15
MWWarlord Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang convertible Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,409 iTrader: 0 reviews	+1 tuners rock! Get a custom tune. It will make a real difference in your cars performance. __________________ MWWarlord 1995 Mustang convertible check out my garage for pics and a complete list of mods. http://www.tricktuners.com

January 11th, 2008, 12:40 PM	#17
jacutis Regular 2007 V6 Coupe unknown Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 50 iTrader: 0 reviews	NM, I looked it up. and yes, mine is a S197. I have a 07 V6 stang __________________ V6, BBK CIA, Hurst Short throw, GT Takeoff exhaust

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