[dgt_mustang]

i heard coil-overs are the best kind of thing to lower the stang with, is this all i need to lower it or am i missing something?

i dont know how much i want to lower it yet.

eBay Motors: 99 00 01 02 03 04 FORD MUSTANG COILOVER LOWERING SPRING (item 270202591968 end time Jan-17-08 15:36:36 PST)

[dgt_mustang]

gotta get back to work, if it helps, im getting 17" rims soon

[Onemanzu]

uh... no don't get those... real coil overs cost about $600 paying 5% of that doesn't seem real

[RavensChild]

Originally Posted by Onemanzu uh... no don't get those... real coil overs cost about $600 paying 5% of that doesn't seem real

thats what i was just thinking

[Blainestang]

You don't want that crap...

Try here:

Coil Over Kits - StangSuspension.com

[tjames]

Originally Posted by dgt_mustang i heard coil-overs are the best kind of thing to lower the stang with, is this all i need to lower it or am i missing something? i dont know how much i want to lower it yet. eBay Motors: 99 00 01 02 03 04 FORD MUSTANG COILOVER LOWERING SPRING (item 270202591968 end time Jan-17-08 15:36:36 PST)

DO NOT GET THOSE!!!!!!!!!!!

suspension is NOT something you want to go cheap on, i have seen those before on ebay and laughed. $34 for coilovers? thats a joke. real kits as stated are around $1100 for all 4. they are also mostly for racing/trach applications and are fully adjustable, if you have a track car or something like that. they arent really neccesary for a DD. they are also a harsher ride then lowering soprings, if you want to lower your car go with eibach pro-kit or spotlines unless your car is going to be strictly a track car, in whioch case you would need to invet in a good coilover kit and alot of other things

[dgt_mustang]

i want to lower it but im getting 17' rims, how low do you think i should go? im just gonna get some lowering springs instead of coil-overs.

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by tjames DO NOT GET THOSE!!!!!!!!!!! suspension is NOT something you want to go cheap on, i have seen those before on ebay and laughed. $34 for coilovers? thats a joke. real kits as stated are around $1100 for all 4. they are also mostly for racing/trach applications and are fully adjustable, if you have a track car or something like that. they arent really neccesary for a DD. they are also a harsher ride then lowering soprings, if you want to lower your car go with eibach pro-kit or spotlines unless your car is going to be strictly a track car, in whioch case you would need to invet in a good coilover kit and alot of other things

I definitely agree that those ebay ones are junk...

A couple things though:

1. Coilovers work fine on DD's, but because most people with Mustangs don't take handling seriously, and because they are an added expense, they are relatively uncommon.

2. Coilovers are generally regarded as having BETTER ride quality than conventional springs, especially at comparable wheel rates.

3. Pro-Kit springs don't offer significantly higher spring rate than stock, so while they may benefit handling to some extent, offer a significant drop, and work well with stock dampers, they aren't really a good choice if handling is your main goal.

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by dgt_mustang i want to lower it but im getting 17' rims, how low do you think i should go? im just gonna get some lowering springs instead of coil-overs.

A couple questions...

Do you plan on using the stock dampers?

Is your priority looks (drop) or handling?

[tjames]

Originally Posted by Blainestang I definitely agree that those ebay ones are junk... A couple things though: 1. Coilovers work fine on DD's, but because most people with Mustangs don't take handling seriously, and because they are an added expense, they are relatively uncommon. 2. Coilovers are generally regarded as having BETTER ride quality than conventional springs, especially at comparable wheel rates. 3. Pro-Kit springs don't offer significantly higher spring rate than stock, so while they may benefit handling to some extent, offer a significant drop, and work well with stock dampers, they aren't really a good choice if handling is your main goal.

however it is reccomended that with any lowering springs you get new shocks/struts and the combo will in some cases have the same ride quality and better handeling

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by tjames however it is reccomended that with any lowering springs you get new shocks/struts and the combo will in some cases have the same ride quality and better handeling

Yes, part of the handling equation is the dampers, but if your goal is handling, then a higher spring rate is important as well.

I put '03 Cobra Bilstein's on my '93 Mustang and the ride quality was greatly improved, so some of the handling improvement came from them as well, but much of it was due to the significantly higher-rate springs, as well.

[tjames]

Originally Posted by Blainestang Yes, part of the handling equation is the dampers, but if your goal is handling, then a higher spring rate is important as well. I put '03 Cobra Bilstein's on my '93 Mustang and the ride quality was greatly improved, so some of the handling improvement came from them as well, but much of it was due to the significantly higher-rate springs, as well.

i totally agree coilovers would help greatly with handeling, and because they are fully adjustable you have to admit they are geared more toward track/autocross cars more then a DD wouldnt you say? especially for the price

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by tjames i totally agree coilovers would help greatly with handeling, and because they are fully adjustable you have to admit they are geared more toward track/autocross cars more then a DD wouldnt you say? especially for the price

Yeah, mostly track cars HAVE them... but it's not because they aren't superior even for a DD. Like I said, because the general Mustang crowd isn't all that interested in handling and because it is an extra expense, they aren't all that common.

My two points were simply that coilovers are generally superior in performance and ride quality, and that higher spring rates are a big part of handling performance.

[tjames]

Originally Posted by Blainestang My two points were simply that coilovers are generally superior in performance and ride quality, and that higher spring rates are a big part of handling performance.

i agree 100%. however for 99% of v6 mustang owners, they are worried about looks not performance, in which case lowering springs are more economical for them

[dgt_mustang]

Originally Posted by tjames i agree 100%. however for 99% of v6 mustang owners, they are worried about looks not performance, in which case lowering springs are more economical for them

I disagree, i think a bunch of v6 owners want to get the most out of their engine, either way, i geuss im lookin at another american muscle order, maybe lower it 1" to 1.25".

[tjames]

Originally Posted by dgt_mustang I disagree, i think a bunch of v6 owners want to get the most out of their engine, either way, i geuss im lookin at another american muscle order, maybe lower it 1" to 1.25".

what springs are you looking at? eibach?

[tjames]

Originally Posted by dgt_mustang I disagree, i think a bunch of v6 owners want to get the most out of their engine, either way, i geuss im lookin at another american muscle order, maybe lower it 1" to 1.25".

alot do yes, im one of them, but i would say the majority dont.

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by tjames i agree 100%. however for 99% of v6 mustang owners, they are worried about looks not performance, in which case lowering springs are more economical for them

I agree with that as well, and it agrees with my point before that most Mustang people aren't really that interested in handling performance. My point is that just because it's what people typically do, doesn't mean that coilovers aren't superior in both ride quality and performance or that higher spring rates are not important when it comes to handling performance.

[94v6blkndred]

Originally Posted by dgt_mustang I disagree, i think a bunch of v6 owners want to get the most out of their engine, either way, i geuss im lookin at another american muscle order, maybe lower it 1" to 1.25".

17's on a new edge i think you could go a little lower then that and it wouldnt look bad...def no more then two...right?

[Onemanzu]

Originally Posted by tjames i agree 100%. however for 99% of v6 mustang owners, they are worried about looks not performance, in which case lowering springs are more economical for them

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