Gears....not size

scxc15 · January 16th, 2008, 12:03 AM

Ok so everyone has been telling me different things about gear installs(no one on here). Some people are telling me that I have to have the gears professionally installed because you have to have special tools and be "meshed" or something like that. While others are telling me that I can do it myself... So will someone please explain this to me. $300 is a lot to waste if I don't have to...I'm buying an 8.8" rear end the end of this month, if they don't sell it by then and I pray they don't!

AtlanticBlue99 · January 16th, 2008, 12:05 AM

if you dont have the tools or experience, you are better off paying a shop 150-250 to have them installed. i paid 200 for mine

itschristorres8 · January 16th, 2008, 12:10 AM

you wont need an 8.8 unless you seriously plan on modding your v6

scxc15 · January 16th, 2008, 12:14 AM

I found one for $500 and I would rather just buy it now and not have to worry later.
What "tools" do I need.
I don't have the experience, but my dad does.
Only thing is he says you have to have someone "mesh" them. The thing is he is used to 9" rear ends and I didn't know if theres something different there or whatever.

itschristorres8 · January 16th, 2008, 12:18 AM

its the same thing just smaller in the 7.5
you wont have a different gear ratio in the 8.8 unless its a Mach rear or an older rear with 2.9xs

scxc15 · January 16th, 2008, 12:24 AM

I know I know!! Why would I be asking if I can change gears myself or not if it already came with them!!

94v6blkndred · January 16th, 2008, 12:41 AM

my step dad is kinda redneck and races circle track...we installed my gears with a hammer, some sockets and a punch for the bearings

but ya gotta be careful...nothing broke or anything when we did it...used the stock shims for it so the backlash was set....my gears whine minimal so...

scxc15 · January 16th, 2008, 12:50 AM

Hmmm really don't want a whine lol. I guess I'll just pay to have them installed....

94v6blkndred · January 16th, 2008, 12:57 AM

its a weird whine...it only whines from 40-45 mph and 60-65 mph...in every gear...but only in those ranges...ive been told to drain my differential fluid then put new stuff in with friction modifier since the rear end fluid would be old and broken in by now but i havent had a chance to yet..

shadow5403 · January 16th, 2008, 09:24 AM

if you try and install gears and not know what your are doing you must make sure you get the proper pinion depth. If you dont you will get "whine" which is the gears not meeting correctly and they will wear out faster. have them professionally put in....or pay more money later.

GTsetGO · January 16th, 2008, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by itschristorres8

its the same thing just smaller in the 7.5
you wont have a different gear ratio in the 8.8 unless its a Mach rear or an older rear with 2.9xs

if he wants to get the 8.8 then let him. it's his perogative brah.

i would suggest having the gears done by a professional. but that's me

GreenFaleen · January 16th, 2008, 09:29 AM

pay for it man, if you dont have a press and such, if your dad has dropped gears in a 9" before it will be close to the same process so he could do it, and use friction modifier for sure not using it = bad times

shadow5403 · January 16th, 2008, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by 94v6blkndred

its a weird whine...it only whines from 40-45 mph and 60-65 mph...in every gear...but only in those ranges...ive been told to drain my differential fluid then put new stuff in with friction modifier since the rear end fluid would be old and broken in by now but i havent had a chance to yet..

When the gears were first put in with the friction modifier....you should have changed the fluid after 500 miles to a synthetic gear oil.

94v6blkndred · January 16th, 2008, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by shadow5403

When the gears were first put in with the friction modifier....you should have changed the fluid after 500 miles to a synthetic gear oil.

thats what someone finally told me....like..2000 miles later haha..the hardest part of the whole process was getting my driveshaft off...the bolts were like salt welded in..it was crazy...we turned the motor by hand we were trying so hard...finally we had to put a pipe wrench on it to keep it from turning..it sucked ass...impact wouldnt budge it.

shadow5403 · January 16th, 2008, 10:44 AM

you also shouldnt have reused the stock internals when you put you gears on. It always better to put new stuff on when doing any upgrade.

94v6blkndred · January 16th, 2008, 01:35 PM

we put in everything new but the shims...dont have a tool to check the pinion depth so we used the stock shims because they didnt split apart. once my rear end falls apart ill know not to do that again hahah

shadow5403 · January 16th, 2008, 01:36 PM

becareful what you wish for

94v6blkndred · January 16th, 2008, 01:45 PM

haha woooaaahhh i NEVER said i wish for that to happen

ESG-642T · January 16th, 2008, 02:36 PM

To Sum this up,

Don't install gears yourself unless you KNOW what your doing, and if you KNEW what you were doing you wouldn't be asking. Gear whine is not what you want.

January 16th, 2008, 12:03 AM	#1
scxc15 Enthusiast 2003 Mach 1 12.7@107 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 819 iTrader: 1 reviews	Gears....not size Ok so everyone has been telling me different things about gear installs(no one on here). Some people are telling me that I have to have the gears professionally installed because you have to have special tools and be "meshed" or something like that. While others are telling me that I can do it myself... So will someone please explain this to me. $300 is a lot to waste if I don't have to...I'm buying an 8.8" rear end the end of this month, if they don't sell it by then and I pray they don't!

January 16th, 2008, 12:05 AM	#2
AtlanticBlue99 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: University of Georgia Posts: 8,854 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	if you dont have the tools or experience, you are better off paying a shop 150-250 to have them installed. i paid 200 for mine __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

January 16th, 2008, 12:10 AM	#3
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	you wont need an 8.8 unless you seriously plan on modding your v6 __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

January 16th, 2008, 12:18 AM	#5
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	its the same thing just smaller in the 7.5 you wont have a different gear ratio in the 8.8 unless its a Mach rear or an older rear with 2.9xs __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

January 16th, 2008, 09:24 AM	#10
shadow5403 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: PA Posts: 2,037 iTrader: 0 reviews	if you try and install gears and not know what your are doing you must make sure you get the proper pinion depth. If you dont you will get "whine" which is the gears not meeting correctly and they will wear out faster. have them professionally put in....or pay more money later. __________________

January 16th, 2008, 12:14 AM	#4
scxc15 Enthusiast 2003 Mach 1 12.7@107 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 819 iTrader: 1 reviews	I found one for $500 and I would rather just buy it now and not have to worry later. What "tools" do I need. I don't have the experience, but my dad does. Only thing is he says you have to have someone "mesh" them. The thing is he is used to 9" rear ends and I didn't know if theres something different there or whatever.

January 16th, 2008, 12:24 AM	#6
scxc15 Enthusiast 2003 Mach 1 12.7@107 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 819 iTrader: 1 reviews	I know I know!! Why would I be asking if I can change gears myself or not if it already came with them!!

January 16th, 2008, 12:41 AM	#7
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,604 iTrader: 0 reviews	my step dad is kinda redneck and races circle track...we installed my gears with a hammer, some sockets and a punch for the bearings but ya gotta be careful...nothing broke or anything when we did it...used the stock shims for it so the backlash was set....my gears whine minimal so...

January 16th, 2008, 12:50 AM	#8
scxc15 Enthusiast 2003 Mach 1 12.7@107 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 819 iTrader: 1 reviews	Hmmm really don't want a whine lol. I guess I'll just pay to have them installed....

January 16th, 2008, 12:57 AM	#9
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,604 iTrader: 0 reviews	its a weird whine...it only whines from 40-45 mph and 60-65 mph...in every gear...but only in those ranges...ive been told to drain my differential fluid then put new stuff in with friction modifier since the rear end fluid would be old and broken in by now but i havent had a chance to yet..

January 16th, 2008, 09:29 AM	#12
GreenFaleen MM's Resident Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.001@113 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 9,880 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	pay for it man, if you dont have a press and such, if your dad has dropped gears in a 9" before it will be close to the same process so he could do it, and use friction modifier for sure not using it = bad times __________________ Scion Tc Turbo - 9psi 297whp 287wtq 2500lbs :p MM 4 Banger club: Senior Ricer NCMM #9 "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby

January 16th, 2008, 10:44 AM	#15
shadow5403 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: PA Posts: 2,037 iTrader: 0 reviews	you also shouldnt have reused the stock internals when you put you gears on. It always better to put new stuff on when doing any upgrade. __________________

January 16th, 2008, 01:35 PM	#16
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,604 iTrader: 0 reviews	we put in everything new but the shims...dont have a tool to check the pinion depth so we used the stock shims because they didnt split apart. once my rear end falls apart ill know not to do that again hahah

January 16th, 2008, 01:36 PM	#17
shadow5403 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: PA Posts: 2,037 iTrader: 0 reviews	becareful what you wish for __________________

January 16th, 2008, 01:45 PM	#18
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,604 iTrader: 0 reviews	haha woooaaahhh i NEVER said i wish for that to happen

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January 16th, 2008, 02:36 PM	#19
ESG-642T [8MINUS2] 2002, Ford, v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 12,319 iTrader: 0 reviews	To Sum this up, Don't install gears yourself unless you KNOW what your doing, and if you KNEW what you were doing you wouldn't be asking. Gear whine is not what you want. __________________ Hi, You can call me Kyle Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular. WTB: v6 BBK valve covers

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