what would win?

January 20th, 2008, 02:25 PM	#1
lwhitetrash88l Regular 2004 Mustang Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 446	what would win? same exact cars.....one with a manual trans and one with a auto.....which one is your bet on?

January 20th, 2008, 02:29 PM	#2
stinglikeastang Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: SF Bay Area, California Posts: 197	it all depends on the driver, but ima give it to the manual, since he can control his shifts

January 20th, 2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lwhitetrash88l

same exact cars.....one with a manual trans and one with a auto.....which one is your bet on?

The one with the better driver. Just because it's an auto doesn't mean it's point & shoot. The car still has to be launched properly.

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January 20th, 2008, 02:32 PM	#4
Mustang RacR94 Hardcore Enthusiast 03 mach 1 13.2@109 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mooretownship,PA kinda close to allentown Posts: 2,514	will if the were both the same driver, a manual on a stock car, once you get into sick drag cars, autos can be faster __________________ 2003 Mach 1, 5 speed MM MACH 1 CREW "Dont worry ive locked horns with this fucker before"- TasteMyThunder www.myspace.com/mustangracr94

January 20th, 2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang RacR94

will if the were both the same driver, a manual on a stock car, once you get into sick drag cars, autos can be faster

That doesn't really work.

If both were the same driver, what if the driver has never driven a 5speed?

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January 20th, 2008, 03:19 PM	#6
Hourofpain Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Mustang Gt 14 MPG Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 1,326	If the auto is built and the manual driver can shift good The auto stands a pretty damn good chance because the auto is a faster more precise shift __________________ 1998 Mustang Gt 4.10 Gears...Stage 3 Clutch...PI Intake Manifold...Hurst Short throw...Underdrive pulleys...Bassani X Exhaust...Strut Tower Brace...Screamin Demon Coil Packs and livewire Ignition wires...Rear Drag Springs

January 20th, 2008, 06:34 PM	#7
Blainestang Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 412	If you're talking stock 94-04 V6's, the 5-speed will be faster assuming equal relative driving skill. __________________ 1993 2.3L Coupe [Motortopia] : Open-Track Project... 214k miles 2000 V6 (Black,5-speed) [Motortopia] : Heads/Cam (EXHAUST CLIP) 2001 Harley Davidson F-150 Acts 16:31

January 21st, 2008, 12:07 AM	#8
MustangMo Enthusiast 1993 1.8 Acura Integra Ls Slow Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Madison, VA Posts: 742	the manual would win if he is a good shifter n runs the car to its max on what it can do the auto don't have a chance, but its hard to be perfect with a manual.

January 21st, 2008, 12:57 AM	#9
riddlee josh Enthusiast 1998 mustang 3.8l v6 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: portsmouth ohio Posts: 618	yes but with a shift kit the auto can be just as good if not better __________________ 1998 mustang v6,UD pulleys,msd 8.5 mm wires shorty headers no cats H pipe flowmaster knock offs cold air intake w/ k n filter headlights mirrors 2 10 xplod subs 1000 watt amp

January 21st, 2008, 01:08 AM

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oh oh you should change the situation...

what if OMZ was driving two cars straight from the factory, 10 miles on each... one was auto and the other stick... and he made three passes with each... track temps the same, tire temps, engine temps... same weight except the difference in the tranny...

which one would win? now im not that bad at driving a stick... been doing it for 4 years so i have a slight idea on how to do it

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January 21st, 2008, 01:12 AM	#11
White Thunder Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 skittle low 13's Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: roanoke va Posts: 2,189	would be up to the driver....and the car also..some of the high end cars have auto with a clutch like launching system and paddle shifters..... but in our would 5/6 speed all the way POWER SHIFT FTW __________________ 4 banger club member

January 21st, 2008, 03:24 AM	#12
Averlus Regular 2007 4.0 slow Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Schofield Barracks, HI Posts: 285	Don't automatic transmissions have less power going to the wheels due to parasitic losses?

January 21st, 2008, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Averlus

Don't automatic transmissions have less power going to the wheels due to parasitic losses?

ya autos have somewhere around 10% more loss then manuals, i know manuals have about 30% or 33% loss i dont remember what autos have

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January 21st, 2008, 04:05 AM

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Manual transmission cars have roughly 15% loss, autos around 20%.

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January 21st, 2008, 04:38 PM	#15
Averlus Regular 2007 4.0 slow Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Schofield Barracks, HI Posts: 285	So...wouldn't that also have an effect on the outcome?

January 21st, 2008, 04:47 PM	#16
RALVAREZ26 Regular 2000 MUSTANG GT 14.2@96.53 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DALLAS Posts: 435	if both drivers have same skill level then inexperience drvier i'd say auto and if both experience drivers then manual __________________ http://smokinperformance.com '00 GT cai,x-pipes w/flowmaster dumped, sct chip

January 21st, 2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Averlus

So...wouldn't that also have an effect on the outcome?

Yes, that, among other reasons, is why all else being equal, a 5-speed 94-04 V6 is faster in the 1/4-mile than an auto, stock vs. stock.

1. Auto has more parasitic loss
2. Auto weighs more
3. Auto has 4 gears rather than 5
4. Auto can't launch from as high an rpm

... Just to name a few.

Of course, this is stock vs. stock. Mods can obviously make a big difference.

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January 21st, 2008, 04:58 PM	#18
killer4.6 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 7	auto if its built right.....perfect shifts...

January 24th, 2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by killer4.6

auto if its built right.....perfect shifts...

when properly tuned i think the auto cause to hit that perfect shift you gotta be a great manual driver autos do it.... automatically!

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