[supermachone]

yes its a car, powered by a supercharged honda civic type r engine! haha i know this will probably get moved but check it out! its called the Atom, talk about fuckin fast!

YouTube - Top Gear: Atom

YouTube - Top Gear: Atom

[Blainestang]

Kinda old, but definitely worth watching again... or for the first time if you've never seen it.

Without a doubt, that would be a very fun car to drive.

[AtlanticBlue99]

i want one!

[AtlanticBlue99]

haha: "there is so much wildlife in my hair!"

[shadow5403]

build a caged dune buggy usign the hyabusa engine. That will rape that lil s/c type r

[justinsstang]

=P

[GreenFaleen]

the atom is badass I think toyota is supplying the engine for the next series they are bringing out

[supermachone]

Originally Posted by shadow5403 build a caged dune buggy usign the hyabusa engine. That will rape that lil s/c type r

haha wow someone already talkin shit typical...heres a supercharged v6 dune buggy...yeah umm good luck with your design! you got a long way to go

YouTube - supercharged V-6 powerd dune buggy

YouTube - supercharged V-6 powerd dune buggy

and this has already been done, much better idea than a dune buggy

YouTube - Dax Rush With A Turbo Suzuki Hyabusa Engine

YouTube - Dax Rush With A Turbo Suzuki Hyabusa Engine

[supermachone]

oh and just some specs on that dax rush, 770 break HP per ton...thats 170 more than the Atom, so shadow you were close, but not quite...and i still like the atom better, plus that dax rush is a track car, the atom is road legal

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by shadow5403 build a caged dune buggy usign the hyabusa engine. That will rape that lil s/c type r

The Type R engine makes 300hp, IIRC, and certainly a lot more torque than a hyabusa engine. Plus, a home-build dune buggy thing is unlikely to be able to hold a candle to the Atom in overall performance. Sure, you could just build a tiny little frame, toss a busa engine on it, and it *might* be faster than an Atom in a straight line, but the full package of the Atom is going to be very hard to match.

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen the atom is badass I think toyota is supplying the engine for the next series they are bringing out

I haven't heard about the next gen one, yet, so you may be right on that.

On a seperate note, last I checked, the current U.S. Atoms use the "LSJ" supercharged 2.0L Ecotec engine from the Chevy Cobalt SS.

[shadow5403]

where did you find that it makes 300hp? civic type r only make 197 last time i checked...Oh and you can buy frames to to this sort of thing, you just need to supply engine, axles, etc.

[shadow5403]

how much that atom cost to build you think? 100g?

[GreenFaleen]

Originally Posted by Blainestang The Type R engine makes 300hp, IIRC, and certainly a lot more torque than a hyabusa engine. Plus, a home-build dune buggy thing is unlikely to be able to hold a candle to the Atom in overall performance. Sure, you could just build a tiny little frame, toss a busa engine on it, and it *might* be faster than an Atom in a straight line, but the full package of the Atom is going to be very hard to match. I haven't heard about the next gen one, yet, so you may be right on that. On a seperate note, last I checked, the current U.S. Atoms use the "LSJ" supercharged 2.0L Ecotec engine from the Chevy Cobalt SS.

yeah US ones are ecotec last I saw on the SAE engineering sheets though the new design features a S/C toyota 2az engine but they didnt go into detail on it. All it said was they are using the 2az since it will be legal n the US and abroad

[supermachone]

Originally Posted by shadow5403 how much that atom cost to build you think? 100g?

actually its available for 20,000 pounds if i heard right sooo that means a little under 40,000 grand, i doubt they would spend 100K to make it and then lose 60,000 grand everytime they sold one

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by shadow5403 where did you find that it makes 300hp? civic type r only make 197 last time i checked...Oh and you can buy frames to to this sort of thing, you just need to supply engine, axles, etc.

The top of the line Atom 1 had a Type R engine that was supercharged for ~300hp, IIRC. Now, they are all powered by the LSJ Ecotec, now.

Certainly, there are some people who could do it, but there aren't too many that could buy a bunch of seperate parts and slap something together that matches the performance of the atom.

Originally Posted by shadow5403 how much that atom cost to build you think? 100g?

You have to sign up to get pricing on Atom's website, now, but I believe that last time I checked, the "base" cars were in the 30's, and the ~300hp ones were in the 50's.

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen yeah US ones are ecotec last I saw on the SAE engineering sheets though the new design features a S/C toyota 2az engine but they didnt go into detail on it. All it said was they are using the 2az since it will be legal n the US and abroad

Interesting... They obviously like the 2.xL Supercharged engines

[GreenFaleen]

yeah anything aover 2.7L apparently throws off the balance

[shadow5403]

not to argue because the car is cool, but if you supercharge the hyabusa engine you can get way over 300hp....and it a bike engine so its already lighter than a 4 cylinder engine. Just tryin top get you to think outside of the box.

[GreenFaleen]

Originally Posted by shadow5403 not to argue because the car is cool, but if you supercharge the hyabusa engine you can get way over 300hp....and it a bike engine so its already lighter than a 4 cylinder engine. Just tryin top get you to think outside of the box.

bad thing about the busa engine is it revs to high, with motorcycle gearing you can hit high rpms really fast it isn't applicable to the car situation since the busa engine hits power so high in the rpm band shifting with a car type clutch would be really difiicult

[shadow5403]

well ppl put hayabusas in buggies, so its obviously not an issue or people wouldnt do it.

[Blainestang]

Originally Posted by shadow5403 not to argue because the car is cool, but if you supercharge the hyabusa engine you can get way over 300hp....and it a bike engine so its already lighter than a 4 cylinder engine. Just tryin top get you to think outside of the box.

I see what you're saying. I think it's safe to say the Atom engineers were thinking "outside the box" and for whatever reason, they chose to go with the ~2L S/C engines that they did.

There could be several reasons for this:

1. Torque: Chances are, the 2.xL S/C engines have a much more useable powerband than even a S/C 1.3L 'busa engine.

2. Reliability/Availability: Ariel can simply buy the S/C Ecotec from Chevy, the parts are very easily available, and the engine may even have a warranty. I have to imagine that a Supercharged 'busa engine quite as "off-the-shelf".

Who knows what all their reasoning was, but I'm sure they considered several options and decided that the 2.xL S/C I4's were the way to go.

BTW, the 'busa engine is probably lighter, but it IS a 4-cylinder engine, just like the others.