copper vs platinum

dgt_mustang · January 31st, 2008, 04:57 PM

i heard that copper is better than platinum, i think someone on here said it to me but i know that platinum is denser than copper so shouldnt platinum be the better way to go?

Onemanzu · January 31st, 2008, 04:58 PM

copper should flow the energy of the plugs better...

we shall see what torres says he for some reason knows a lot about plugs

dgt_mustang · January 31st, 2008, 04:59 PM

ha, matter of fact im thinking he was the one who told me copper was better, lol, idk, we shall see what he says. the omnipient plug master.

Onemanzu · January 31st, 2008, 05:01 PM

i think the main reason people say copper is there is less chance of burning a hole through your piston... i think that the platinum ones have a hotter spark or something i can't remember but yea some one will be able to tell ya

dgt_mustang · January 31st, 2008, 05:02 PM

if thats so with the platinums then copper may flow the energy better but sounds like platinum's hotter spark can give you better gas mileage im geussing...idk, well see.

GreenFaleen · January 31st, 2008, 05:29 PM

no mustangs are designed to use a copper plug, platinum is a better conductor, but the copper work better in the mustang cause thats what it is designed for

ESG-642T · January 31st, 2008, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen

no mustangs are designed to use a copper plug, platinum is a better conductor, but the copper work better in the mustang cause thats what it is designed for

Sure about that chief?

ROUSHME661 · January 31st, 2008, 06:07 PM

copper is the way to go ive tried all plugs from copper to iridium and copper work best

try autolite they work well on our vehicles

itschristorres8 · January 31st, 2008, 06:12 PM

Platinum can get hot enough that when your racing it'll find weak spots on your pistons and possibly even burn a hole right through

which is why copper is safer

GreenFaleen · January 31st, 2008, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by SSStang

Sure about that chief?

yes platinum has a better conduction value than copper

04DSGV6 · January 31st, 2008, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen

yes platinum has a better conduction value than copper

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am currently in training to be an electrician for the power company (later down the road hopefully electrical engineer). I looked into my books from school and found the exact opposite. Platinum has a resistance rating of 10.5 micro-ohm's per cm. Where as copper has a resistance rating of 1.678 micro-ohms per cm. Lower the resistance better the conductor. I believe the use of iridium and platinum is for their better resistance to higher temperatures. However I do not know enough about the subject to tell you why platinum or iridium is used for sure, but i can tell you for a fact copper is a better conductor.

GreenFaleen · January 31st, 2008, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by 04DSGV6

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am currently in training to be an electrician for the power company (later down the road hopefully electrical engineer). I looked into my books from school and found the exact opposite. Platinum has a resistance rating of 10.5 micro-ohm's per cm. Where as copper has a resistance rating of 1.678 micro-ohms per cm. Lower the resistance better the conductor. I believe the use of iridium and platinum is for their better resistance to higher temperatures. However I do not know enough about the subject to tell you why platinum or iridium is used for sure, but i can tell you for a fact copper is a better conductor.

I meant with spark plugs I made this a little unclear, in my alternate fuels and efficiency class we were seeing which spark plug metal carried spark the best at over 80 degrees, copper was last, platinum second and iridium was third, sry I didn't say it was for spark plugs only I forgot

Mustang RacR94 · January 31st, 2008, 07:29 PM

iriduim and platinum both work better in plugs, but copper has its benfits, it will melt before you motor detonates, letting you know that somethings about to go wrong, and it could save you alot of money, as for performance goes, youd see the must from iridium

itschristorres8 · January 31st, 2008, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mustang RacR94

iriduim and platinum both work better in plugs, but copper has its benfits, it will melt before you motor detonates, letting you know that somethings about to go wrong, and it could save you alot of money, as for performance goes, youd see the must from iridium

ummmmm

no

04DSGV6 · January 31st, 2008, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen

I meant with spark plugs I made this a little unclear, in my alternate fuels and efficiency class we were seeing which spark plug metal carried spark the best at over 80 degrees, copper was last, platinum second and iridium was third, sry I didn't say it was for spark plugs only I forgot

Oh okay, yeah when they test for electric resistance normally its like 20 degrees celcius I believe.

HMUSN · January 31st, 2008, 07:57 PM

Copper melts at 1981 degrees F and that makes it suitable for an internal combustion engine. It's a great conductor of electricity (second to silver), heat and can resist corrosion to a point. Copper is very soft and can be easily drawn into wires. The majority of the spark plugs on the market today are copper since it is the most economical of the material to use. Nickel is also used as an alloying material for a copper spark plug. However car makers have be using platinum plugs in their engines to increase the tune-up intervals.

Platinum is a precious metal and it is rare, that makes it more expensive than copper. It melts at 3,200 degrees F. and it is highly resistant against corrosion. Platinum has a high fuse point with high electrical resistance. It is also harder than copper, making it very useful for longevity of a spark plug. Make no mistake, copper is a better conductor than platinum.

itschristorres8 · January 31st, 2008, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

Copper melts at 1981 degrees F and that makes it suitable for an internal combustion engine. It's a great conductor of electricity (second to silver), heat and can resist corrosion to a point. Copper is very soft and can be easily drawn into wires. The majority of the spark plugs on the market today are copper since it is the most economical of the material to use. Nickel is also used as an alloying material for a copper spark plug. However car makers have be using platinum plugs in their engines to increase the tune-up intervals.

Platinum is a precious metal and it is rare, that makes it more expensive than copper. It melts at 3,200 degrees F. and it is highly resistant against corrosion. Platinum has a high fuse point with high electrical resistance. It is also harder than copper, making it very useful for longevity of a spark plug. Make no mistake, copper is a better conductor than platinum.

thank you Bill Nye

Onemanzu · January 31st, 2008, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by itschristorres8

thank you Jon Nye

fixt

copper owns platinum...

/argument

Hourofpain · February 1st, 2008, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen

no mustangs are designed to use a copper plug, platinum is a better conductor, but the copper work better in the mustang cause thats what it is designed for

actually stock mine came with platinums... but

copper plugs all the frickin way

dgt_mustang · February 1st, 2008, 06:29 PM

woohoo copper for me, i love copper, im gonna change mine now, lol, thanx guys. i would post rep for everyone in here right now that went with copper but i dont have time, definetly later though, promise,

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Onemanzu ¡ʇsnq ɹo uʍop ǝpısdn Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Looking for free hand jobs in poland springs nebraska... silly gooses Posts: 12,551 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	i think the main reason people say copper is there is less chance of burning a hole through your piston... i think that the platinum ones have a hotter spark or something i can't remember but yea some one will be able to tell ya __________________ My Foz

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GreenFaleen MM's Resident Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.001@113 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 9,880 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	no mustangs are designed to use a copper plug, platinum is a better conductor, but the copper work better in the mustang cause thats what it is designed for __________________ Scion Tc Turbo - 9psi 297whp 287wtq 2500lbs :p MM 4 Banger club: Senior Ricer NCMM #9 "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby

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ROUSHME661 Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lamont CA Posts: 663 iTrader: 0 reviews	copper is the way to go ive tried all plugs from copper to iridium and copper work best try autolite they work well on our vehicles __________________ 01 v6 true duals with 40 series flows and custom h pipe cold air intake http://www.myspace.com/xxarsonfreakxx (PERSONAL) http://www.myspace.com/vicious_racing (THE STANG FAMILY)

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itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	Platinum can get hot enough that when your racing it'll find weak spots on your pistons and possibly even burn a hole right through which is why copper is safer __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

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Mustang RacR94 MM Fanatic 99 cobra N/A Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 3,171 iTrader: 0 reviews	iriduim and platinum both work better in plugs, but copper has its benfits, it will melt before you motor detonates, letting you know that somethings about to go wrong, and it could save you alot of money, as for performance goes, youd see the must from iridium __________________ 99 Cobra 03 Cobra motor AFCO H/E Pulley JLT CAI BBK L/T off road H/steeda catback SCT MAF Tune 03 cobra pumps HVGC

January 31st, 2008, 07:57 PM	#16
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	Copper melts at 1981 degrees F and that makes it suitable for an internal combustion engine. It's a great conductor of electricity (second to silver), heat and can resist corrosion to a point. Copper is very soft and can be easily drawn into wires. The majority of the spark plugs on the market today are copper since it is the most economical of the material to use. Nickel is also used as an alloying material for a copper spark plug. However car makers have be using platinum plugs in their engines to increase the tune-up intervals. Platinum is a precious metal and it is rare, that makes it more expensive than copper. It melts at 3,200 degrees F. and it is highly resistant against corrosion. Platinum has a high fuse point with high electrical resistance. It is also harder than copper, making it very useful for longevity of a spark plug. Make no mistake, copper is a better conductor than platinum. __________________

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