hypothetical power question...

94v6blkndred · February 8th, 2008, 10:12 PM

I dont know if i would ever do this but it crossed my mind today and idk if there was a write up like this so im SORRY

dont bash me for repost...not looking at if "it would be cheaper just to do such and such instead" just kinda wanna know this.....Say i took my 94 v6...did a split port swap, bought the M112 adaptor and SC and all the accesories and went with a 4.2L stroker kit what kind of gains would you see with this..is it possible? Would it be better to just keep the 3.8 displacement or what? Like i said again i doubt i will ever do this i just wanna know! thanks guys!

HMUSN · February 8th, 2008, 10:13 PM

4.2 SC >3.8 SC

it goes back to the old saying...

there is no replacement for displacement.

whitemustang02 · February 8th, 2008, 10:16 PM

well there are still a lot of Variables in that like psi, cr, things like that. But you should get more power out of the 4.2 then the 3.8. also with the 4.2 you could get forged internals so you could up the psi. and make some real power.

94v6blkndred · February 8th, 2008, 10:17 PM

so split port,ported and polished of course,M112,and the 4.2 stroker kit what kinda power would you be lookin at?

HMUSN · February 8th, 2008, 10:18 PM

depends on a man.

look around the 270- 330 rwhp range though

El_Cangri · February 8th, 2008, 10:20 PM

depends psi.. i would say a good built 4.2 could give u 230-260h.p depending on compression, cam and what not..

maybe 300-320 at 12 psi? maybe more... just a rough estimate.. idk how much the m112 makes at 9 or more psi i never seen any one on a v6 yet.. and idk wheres tomzac...

whitemustang02 · February 8th, 2008, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

depends on a man.

look around the 270- 330 rwhp range though

ya some wear in there, with the stock pulie. (it could be even more depending on cam, rr's, ect.
but you could sap the pulie and with some of the osthe menchend modsd get up to 400rwhp. maby more

ESG-642T · February 8th, 2008, 10:26 PM

500 with the right pulley & m112

itschristorres8 · February 8th, 2008, 10:58 PM

damm everyone but 1 is low balling the shit outta this set up
a 4.2L built with an m112 at 10-12psi is easily about 400+rwhp

20psi did 500+ i believe maybe it was 24psi

really you dont need the split port upper intake

just heads and lower intake

94v6blkndred · February 8th, 2008, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by itschristorres8

damm everyone but 1 is low balling the shit outta this set up
a 4.2L built with an m112 at 10-12psi is easily about 400+rwhp

20psi did 500+ i believe maybe it was 24psi

really you dont need the split port upper intake

just heads and lower intake

damn! that much huh? and the 3.8 block can handle that much power for awhile or would the bulk head shit out of it? like i said i doubt i ever do this just thought it would be bad ass

thanks for going along with it tho and giving me some ideas....love this site

ESG-642T · February 8th, 2008, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by 94v6blkndred

damn! that much huh? and the 3.8 block can handle that much power for awhile or would the bulk head shit out of it? like i said i doubt i ever do this just thought it would be bad ass thanks for going along with it tho and giving me some ideas....love this site

A forged, built, 3.8 block can handle 600hp

EVEN, 700hp

We're waiting to see if it can handle 800hp...

itschristorres8 · February 8th, 2008, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by 94v6blkndred

damn! that much huh? and the 3.8 block can handle that much power for awhile or would the bulk head shit out of it? like i said i doubt i ever do this just thought it would be bad ass thanks for going along with it tho and giving me some ideas....love this site

the block
YES

the stock bottom end NO
10psi stock bottom end is about 330rwhpish

94v6blkndred · February 9th, 2008, 12:00 AM

well i know that the crank,rods and pistons would have to be forged but thats what im talking about..the full forged 4.2l kit...so that would actually be a good investment to go that way in a sense? lookin at what....about 7k pricing high with a tune?

94v6blkndred · February 9th, 2008, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by SSStang

A forged, built, 3.8 block can handle 600hp

EVEN, 700hp

We're waiting to see if it can handle 800hp...

holy shit i knew the block was strong but i didnt know it was that strong!

ESG-642T · February 9th, 2008, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by 94v6blkndred

well i know that the crank,rods and pistons would have to be forged but thats what im talking about..the full forged 4.2l kit...so that would actually be a good investment to go that way in a sense? lookin at what....about 7k pricing high with a tune?

Find a forged crank for me.... nobody runs one.

itschristorres8 · February 9th, 2008, 12:06 AM

3.8 supercoupe crank is forged
but NO 4.2L crank is forged
it'd be $2500 for it custom

94v6blkndred · February 9th, 2008, 12:49 AM

oh damn they dont have forged 4.2l cranks? wtf...haha...i guess i never pay attentioned to the kits....are the cranks that come with the kits stronger than the ones that are stock or are the same thing just new?

itschristorres8 · February 9th, 2008, 01:07 AM

630+rwhp hasnt broken yet
you have nothing to worry about they're plenty strong =)

94v6blkndred · February 9th, 2008, 01:14 AM

so you think it would be on the "original side" and a good bang for the buck?

ESG-642T · February 9th, 2008, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by 94v6blkndred

so you think it would be on the "original side" and a good bang for the buck?

What you talking about?

February 8th, 2008, 10:12 PM	#1
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,604 iTrader: 0 reviews	hypothetical power question... I dont know if i would ever do this but it crossed my mind today and idk if there was a write up like this so im SORRY dont bash me for repost...not looking at if "it would be cheaper just to do such and such instead" just kinda wanna know this.....Say i took my 94 v6...did a split port swap, bought the M112 adaptor and SC and all the accesories and went with a 4.2L stroker kit what kind of gains would you see with this..is it possible? Would it be better to just keep the 3.8 displacement or what? Like i said again i doubt i will ever do this i just wanna know! thanks guys!

February 8th, 2008, 10:13 PM	#2
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	4.2 SC >3.8 SC it goes back to the old saying... there is no replacement for displacement. __________________

February 8th, 2008, 10:16 PM	#3
whitemustang02 MM's official Chevy guy 2002 Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,024 iTrader: 0 reviews	well there are still a lot of Variables in that like psi, cr, things like that. But you should get more power out of the 4.2 then the 3.8. also with the 4.2 you could get forged internals so you could up the psi. and make some real power. __________________ "Speak softly and carry a big stick" - Theodore Roosevelt "Any idiot can make a V8 fast, it takes a real idiot to make a fast V6". '02 Mustang N/A 4.3 stroker away for winter '72 Chevelle project car 454 coming '93 Bronco EFI 351W DD

February 8th, 2008, 10:18 PM	#5
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	depends on a man. look around the 270- 330 rwhp range though __________________

February 8th, 2008, 10:26 PM	#8
ESG-642T [8MINUS2] 2002, Ford, v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 12,319 iTrader: 0 reviews	500 with the right pulley & m112 __________________ Hi, You can call me Kyle Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular. WTB: v6 BBK valve covers

February 8th, 2008, 10:17 PM	#4
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,604 iTrader: 0 reviews	so split port,ported and polished of course,M112,and the 4.2 stroker kit what kinda power would you be lookin at?

February 8th, 2008, 10:58 PM	#9
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	damm everyone but 1 is low balling the shit outta this set up a 4.2L built with an m112 at 10-12psi is easily about 400+rwhp 20psi did 500+ i believe maybe it was 24psi really you dont need the split port upper intake just heads and lower intake __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

February 9th, 2008, 12:00 AM	#13
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,604 iTrader: 0 reviews	well i know that the crank,rods and pistons would have to be forged but thats what im talking about..the full forged 4.2l kit...so that would actually be a good investment to go that way in a sense? lookin at what....about 7k pricing high with a tune?

February 9th, 2008, 12:06 AM	#16
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	3.8 supercoupe crank is forged but NO 4.2L crank is forged it'd be $2500 for it custom __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

February 9th, 2008, 12:49 AM	#17
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,604 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh damn they dont have forged 4.2l cranks? wtf...haha...i guess i never pay attentioned to the kits....are the cranks that come with the kits stronger than the ones that are stock or are the same thing just new?

February 9th, 2008, 01:07 AM	#18
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	630+rwhp hasnt broken yet you have nothing to worry about they're plenty strong =) __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

February 9th, 2008, 01:14 AM	#19
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,604 iTrader: 0 reviews	so you think it would be on the "original side" and a good bang for the buck?

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