ssms or procharger

Danderson · February 21st, 2008, 08:39 PM

i have the money for the stage 2+ for a 2002 auto v6.
I cant decide if i should keep saving to a supercharger or just go ahead with this.
I have cai and a tuner
ssms about 2800 with intal kit. 90hp
procharger kit around 4000 40-60% increase

I know i would need the supporting mods
true dual
gars
t lock

let me know what u guys think.
what kind of hp should i expect?

p.s.for all of u out there that are going to give me shit about talking about this a million time before dont waist your time. (i was dreaming before now i can do it

)

GreenFaleen · February 21st, 2008, 08:47 PM

well honestly go with the power pack, first IMO then S/C later that way your engine will already be able to handle higher boost cause you will want it lol

Mike Johnson · February 21st, 2008, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen

well honestly go with the power pack, first IMO then S/C later that way your engine will already be able to handle higher boost cause you will want it lol

I agree

itschristorres8 · February 21st, 2008, 10:46 PM

procharger IMO
much more gain
more power
deffinitly an easier install
and will be more fun

a power pak is nice too

Onemanzu · February 21st, 2008, 11:04 PM

procharger...

makes more power

Hourofpain · February 21st, 2008, 11:23 PM

or he could upgrade his internals so he could effectively run a supercharger

honestly if you want to go FI
get forged internals and lower compression heads

ESG-642T · February 21st, 2008, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen

well honestly go with the power pack, first IMO then S/C later that way your engine will already be able to handle higher boost cause you will want it lol

Power pack doesn't include any forged internals. So it wont handle higher boost.

Originally Posted by Hourofpain

or he could upgrade his internals so he could effectively run a supercharger

honestly if you want to go FI
get forged internals and lower compression heads

Forged internals, low comp pistons.

Originally Posted by Onemanzu

procharger...

makes more power

Vortech FTW!

itschristorres8 · February 21st, 2008, 11:42 PM

you can mill the heads..but that'll RAISE the compression
or get a deeper bowl which they dont have and will require shorter valves

you do not need forged internals to run a s/c or turbo efficiently, effectively or anything
if anything upgrading your rear is more important

Onemanzu · February 22nd, 2008, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by SSStang

Vortech FTW!

when it comes down to a kid in there garage... procharger is an easier install of the two...

other then that vortech for sure...

ESG-642T · February 22nd, 2008, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by Onemanzu

when it comes down to a kid in there garage... procharger is an easier install of the two...

other then that vortech for sure...

What makes you think that?

Onemanzu · February 22nd, 2008, 12:33 AM

the fact that relocating the AC compressor could scare some one shit less... i know i would second guess it

itschristorres8 · February 22nd, 2008, 12:35 AM

+1 one that isnt knowledged on the a/c compressor and lines
would start to take out the back lines with out a worry then blow an o-ring and have regfrigrant all in their face and motor

ESG-642T · February 22nd, 2008, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by itschristorres8

+1 one that isnt knowledged on the a/c compressor and lines
would start to take out the back lines with out a worry then blow an o-ring and have regfrigrant all in their face and motor

Thats half the fun...

You can have it discharged, its really not that hard. taking ac lines off are simple.

I could say somebody who isn't knowledgeable in taking off the front bumper could end up with a mess too doing the intercooler.

itschristorres8 · February 22nd, 2008, 12:43 AM

eh, discharging the s/c correctly not to many people have the machine
letting it go in the air is bad for the atmosphere

i take my front bumper off so much its annoying me

Onemanzu · February 22nd, 2008, 12:51 AM

i would be better at the front bumper cover then the a/c compressor... plus you have to bend lines for certain models and shit... doesn't sound like fun if you ask me

ESG-642T · February 22nd, 2008, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Onemanzu

i would be better at the front bumper cover then the a/c compressor... plus you have to bend lines for certain models and shit... doesn't sound like fun if you ask me

Vortech provides the lines.

Anyway, YOU can't compare yourself to installing anything... I don't think I need to keep bringing up your header install do I? The A/C is bolts thats it. Turn of wrench and the ac lines is gone from the a/c compressor, turn of wrench the compressor is gone, its not hard.

Onemanzu · February 22nd, 2008, 01:20 AM

i don't see why you keep having to bash me cause of difficulties and the lack of time to work on my car... 2 nights to take apart... 2 nights to install... worked about 2 hours each night... including heating the garage clean up and shit...

Danderson · February 22nd, 2008, 02:32 AM

just saw tma turbo at v6power.net fs! that is also something to consider

ESG-642T · February 22nd, 2008, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by Danderson

just saw tma turbo at v6power.net fs! that is also something to consider

Andy will make you a kit if A.) you don't bug him with questions. and B.) you have the money of course.

Danderson · February 22nd, 2008, 02:54 AM

^Thats good to know

February 21st, 2008, 08:39 PM	#1
Danderson Regular 2004 Cobra Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Charles, Illinois Posts: 483 iTrader: 0 reviews	ssms or procharger i have the money for the stage 2+ for a 2002 auto v6. I cant decide if i should keep saving to a supercharger or just go ahead with this. I have cai and a tuner ssms about 2800 with intal kit. 90hp procharger kit around 4000 40-60% increase I know i would need the supporting mods true dual gars t lock let me know what u guys think. what kind of hp should i expect? p.s.for all of u out there that are going to give me shit about talking about this a million time before dont waist your time. (i was dreaming before now i can do it) __________________ 2004 Mystichrome Cobra - stiegemeier ported blower, acufab mono blade throttle body, 2.80 pulley, snub and idler pulleys, bassani mid lengths, bassani or x and bassani catback with baffles removed, k & N drop in.

February 21st, 2008, 08:47 PM	#2
GreenFaleen MM's Resident Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.001@113 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 9,880 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 1 reviews	well honestly go with the power pack, first IMO then S/C later that way your engine will already be able to handle higher boost cause you will want it lol __________________ Scion Tc Turbo - 9psi 297whp 287wtq 2500lbs :p MM 4 Banger club: Senior Ricer NCMM #9 "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby

February 21st, 2008, 10:46 PM	#4
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	procharger IMO much more gain more power deffinitly an easier install and will be more fun a power pak is nice too __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

February 21st, 2008, 11:04 PM	#5
Onemanzu ¡ʇsnq ɹo uʍop ǝpısdn Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Looking for free hand jobs in poland springs nebraska... silly gooses Posts: 12,551 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	procharger... makes more power __________________ My Foz

February 21st, 2008, 11:23 PM	#6
Hourofpain Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Torrid Red GTO m6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 1,524 iTrader: 0 reviews	or he could upgrade his internals so he could effectively run a supercharger honestly if you want to go FI get forged internals and lower compression heads __________________ 1996 Cobra To be sold... 2005 M6 Twin Turbo GTO Torrid Red Fully Forged LS2 Block Built to handle 1000RWHP. Fully ported Dart Heads. Edelbrock Jr Intake. Custom cut upper intake plenum. APS twin Turbo System with APS twin Fuel pumps.

February 21st, 2008, 11:42 PM	#8
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	you can mill the heads..but that'll RAISE the compression or get a deeper bowl which they dont have and will require shorter valves you do not need forged internals to run a s/c or turbo efficiently, effectively or anything if anything upgrading your rear is more important __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

February 22nd, 2008, 12:33 AM	#11
Onemanzu ¡ʇsnq ɹo uʍop ǝpısdn Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Looking for free hand jobs in poland springs nebraska... silly gooses Posts: 12,551 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	the fact that relocating the AC compressor could scare some one shit less... i know i would second guess it __________________ My Foz

February 22nd, 2008, 12:35 AM	#12
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	+1 one that isnt knowledged on the a/c compressor and lines would start to take out the back lines with out a worry then blow an o-ring and have regfrigrant all in their face and motor __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

February 22nd, 2008, 12:43 AM	#14
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	eh, discharging the s/c correctly not to many people have the machine letting it go in the air is bad for the atmosphere i take my front bumper off so much its annoying me __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

February 22nd, 2008, 12:51 AM	#15
Onemanzu ¡ʇsnq ɹo uʍop ǝpısdn Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Looking for free hand jobs in poland springs nebraska... silly gooses Posts: 12,551 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	i would be better at the front bumper cover then the a/c compressor... plus you have to bend lines for certain models and shit... doesn't sound like fun if you ask me __________________ My Foz

February 22nd, 2008, 01:20 AM	#17
Onemanzu ¡ʇsnq ɹo uʍop ǝpısdn Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Looking for free hand jobs in poland springs nebraska... silly gooses Posts: 12,551 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	i don't see why you keep having to bash me cause of difficulties and the lack of time to work on my car... 2 nights to take apart... 2 nights to install... worked about 2 hours each night... including heating the garage clean up and shit... __________________ My Foz

February 22nd, 2008, 02:32 AM	#18
Danderson Regular 2004 Cobra Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Charles, Illinois Posts: 483 iTrader: 0 reviews	just saw tma turbo at v6power.net fs! that is also something to consider __________________ 2004 Mystichrome Cobra - stiegemeier ported blower, acufab mono blade throttle body, 2.80 pulley, snub and idler pulleys, bassani mid lengths, bassani or x and bassani catback with baffles removed, k & N drop in.

February 22nd, 2008, 02:54 AM	#20
Danderson Regular 2004 Cobra Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Charles, Illinois Posts: 483 iTrader: 0 reviews	^Thats good to know __________________ 2004 Mystichrome Cobra - stiegemeier ported blower, acufab mono blade throttle body, 2.80 pulley, snub and idler pulleys, bassani mid lengths, bassani or x and bassani catback with baffles removed, k & N drop in.

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