trouble shifting....

lwhitetrash88l · March 21st, 2008, 07:49 PM

I decide to take a about a 30 mile trip today and im like 5-10 miles from where im suppose to be and it becomes really hard for me to shift into 1st gear at a stand still. same goes for all the other gears while driving but not quite as bad as 1st. also reverse from a stand still is also a bitch to get...unfortunantly i had to drive it all the way back home this way too. i found that shifting into first gear while still moving in the process of coming to a stop was easier than waiting till i was stopped to shift it. im not sure whats wrong....i was thinking the clutch but wouldnt i be grinding the gears if that was the case? i was thinking more along the lines of something being like binded up? is there anyway way for the shifter to bind at all?

tsp_2177 · March 21st, 2008, 08:12 PM

pressure plate, throw out bearing, or clutch going out?
or synchros those went out on my ranger in second and it was a bitch sometimes to get into gear

GreenFaleen · March 21st, 2008, 08:37 PM

synchros are going out man,

lwhitetrash88l · March 21st, 2008, 10:33 PM

i know all but the synchros. whats that?? and how do i go about replacing these?

GreenFaleen · March 21st, 2008, 10:55 PM

they are the things that hold and allow you to go into gear, as well as lock you out they are like gate keepers

lwhitetrash88l · March 21st, 2008, 11:43 PM

how do i replace them?

GreenFaleen · March 21st, 2008, 11:49 PM

you need to take it to tranny specalist

lwhitetrash88l · March 22nd, 2008, 12:00 AM

i cant do it myself?

lwhitetrash88l · March 22nd, 2008, 12:01 AM

what kind of toolswould i need and what not?

motorhead6776 · March 22nd, 2008, 12:23 AM

alot... and alot of time. thats my uneducated input...

tsp_2177 · March 22nd, 2008, 12:24 AM

i think manuals are pretty easy compared to auto's
but i've never done any of it so thats just hear say

GreenFaleen · March 22nd, 2008, 12:29 AM

its a hard job, and takes know how, I wouldnt recommend it unless you've worked on trannys for awhile

lwhitetrash88l · March 22nd, 2008, 02:48 AM

well i guess everyones gotta start somewhere right? lol and im pretty knowledgable and quick to pick up on things so im going down to the library tomorrow and picking up this book.... How to Rebuild And Modify Your ... - Google Book Search .... im going to give it a go...fuck it

GreenFaleen · March 22nd, 2008, 07:31 AM

good luck man

lwhitetrash88l · March 22nd, 2008, 11:41 AM

how much did you pay at a tranny specialist?

itschristorres8 · March 23rd, 2008, 12:15 AM

i personally would just buy a junkyard tranny
this job isnt easy and nothing for a beginner
even myself i would double take before doing it. you'll have to remove the tranny(obviously)
pull the bearings on the input shaft(seals before of course)
take the transmission top cover case off
slowly pull all your gears off watch for snap rings..

also pull the shift forks before
even giving directions i'll have to go back because theres shit i cant remember unless im in front of the tranny.

are you more in northern florida? mid or south?

this isnt the easiest job. i'd rather do a head gasket

94v6blkndred · March 23rd, 2008, 02:24 AM

dude t-5's aint too hard...once u get it off the car it will take you like 15 mins to take it all apart and about 30 mins to put it back together..just make sure everything goes back into the right spot...but definately dont do it if you dont feel comfortable doing it. Make sure on the slider gear u got the bevel to the front and all your snap rings back in the right way...and test the shift before you put it back on the car.

cobrasvt60 · March 23rd, 2008, 02:42 AM

Tools your gonna need to rebuild your Manual Tranny if you dont have them or cant borrow them your looking to spend some money on them along with your rebuild kit so just grab yourself a used or refurbished one if you know whats best for you. I rebuilt an Auto C-5 twice actually because i forgot the reverse pin the first time. And Ive replaced 3rd gear in a M21 and replaced syncros in a T-5 its tedious work and internal parts dont bend they break just so you know. If you didnt know what syncros are then you prolly dont wanna rebuild a transmission. Goodluck

Tools needed for Manual Tranny rebuild
Metric socket(s) and ratchet (13mm)
7/8” open end wrench (reverse light)
3/16” diameter punch
Retaining ring pliers
6” or 8” calipers
1” travel dial indicator
dial indicator stand
4” C-clamp
Two-jaw puller, 6-1/2” reach (Craftsman (9)46903)
File, flat
Parts washer or many cans of carb cleaner!
Air compressor and air nozzle
Regular screwdrivers (2 each: large, medium, small)
3/8” or 1/2” diameter punch (I use a Chevrolet fuel pump pushrod)
Foot-pound torque wrench
Dremel w/ cut-off wheel (for marking synchro hubs/rings)
T40 and T50 Torx bits
Bearing separator (SK 4-1/4”) and 14” long threaded rods (5/8”-18 NF) that fit it
Shop press (optional, but makes life much easier)
Valco Tube-Grip (RTV sealant dispenser; the best $15 I ever spent!)
1-7/8” O.D. x 1–1/4” to 1-3/8” I.D. x 5-1/2” long pipe (for cluster bearings)

itschristorres8 · March 23rd, 2008, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by 94v6blkndred

dude t-5's aint too hard...once u get it off the car it will take you like 15 mins to take it all apart and about 30 mins to put it back together..just make sure everything goes back into the right spot...but definately dont do it if you dont feel comfortable doing it. Make sure on the slider gear u got the bevel to the front and all your snap rings back in the right way...and test the shift before you put it back on the car.

maybe for a tranny specialist
i was at g-force for 15-20min before they could say my main shaft was fine.
thats not even all the syncros or gears taken off. or pulled

lwhitetrash88l · March 23rd, 2008, 11:08 AM

everyones gotta start somewhere right?

March 21st, 2008, 07:49 PM	#1
lwhitetrash88l Regular 2004 Mustang Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 446	trouble shifting.... I decide to take a about a 30 mile trip today and im like 5-10 miles from where im suppose to be and it becomes really hard for me to shift into 1st gear at a stand still. same goes for all the other gears while driving but not quite as bad as 1st. also reverse from a stand still is also a bitch to get...unfortunantly i had to drive it all the way back home this way too. i found that shifting into first gear while still moving in the process of coming to a stop was easier than waiting till i was stopped to shift it. im not sure whats wrong....i was thinking the clutch but wouldnt i be grinding the gears if that was the case? i was thinking more along the lines of something being like binded up? is there anyway way for the shifter to bind at all?

March 21st, 2008, 08:12 PM	#2
tsp_2177 Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Civic GAY! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,874	pressure plate, throw out bearing, or clutch going out? or synchros those went out on my ranger in second and it was a bitch sometimes to get into gear __________________ slow car member twinky times two the stangs gone pypes mid muffler catback with their X-pipe In the top 20 cool peoples list on MM potsticker in training

March 21st, 2008, 08:37 PM	#3
GreenFaleen Resident MM Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.9@103/8.9@81 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 8,809	synchros are going out man, __________________ Buy My Guitar and Amp Scion Tc-strup racing header, CAI, Ground Kit, NOS 100shot tuning and install in process, Custom suspension, Doc. I 50% STS "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby Thanks To My Sponsors: Strup Performance

March 21st, 2008, 10:55 PM	#5
GreenFaleen Resident MM Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.9@103/8.9@81 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 8,809	they are the things that hold and allow you to go into gear, as well as lock you out they are like gate keepers __________________ Buy My Guitar and Amp Scion Tc-strup racing header, CAI, Ground Kit, NOS 100shot tuning and install in process, Custom suspension, Doc. I 50% STS "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby Thanks To My Sponsors: Strup Performance

March 21st, 2008, 11:49 PM	#7
GreenFaleen Resident MM Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.9@103/8.9@81 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 8,809	you need to take it to tranny specalist __________________ Buy My Guitar and Amp Scion Tc-strup racing header, CAI, Ground Kit, NOS 100shot tuning and install in process, Custom suspension, Doc. I 50% STS "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby Thanks To My Sponsors: Strup Performance

March 21st, 2008, 10:33 PM	#4
lwhitetrash88l Regular 2004 Mustang Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 446	i know all but the synchros. whats that?? and how do i go about replacing these?

March 21st, 2008, 11:43 PM	#6
lwhitetrash88l Regular 2004 Mustang Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 446	how do i replace them?

March 22nd, 2008, 12:00 AM	#8
lwhitetrash88l Regular 2004 Mustang Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 446	i cant do it myself?

March 22nd, 2008, 12:01 AM	#9
lwhitetrash88l Regular 2004 Mustang Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 446	what kind of toolswould i need and what not?

March 22nd, 2008, 12:23 AM	#10
motorhead6776 Regular 2003 Mustang Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Plaistow NH Posts: 393	alot... and alot of time. thats my uneducated input... __________________ K&N CAI, GT Takeoffs w/ Flowmaster super 40's

March 22nd, 2008, 12:24 AM	#11
tsp_2177 Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Civic GAY! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,874	i think manuals are pretty easy compared to auto's but i've never done any of it so thats just hear say __________________ slow car member twinky times two the stangs gone pypes mid muffler catback with their X-pipe In the top 20 cool peoples list on MM potsticker in training

March 22nd, 2008, 12:29 AM	#12
GreenFaleen Resident MM Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.9@103/8.9@81 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 8,809	its a hard job, and takes know how, I wouldnt recommend it unless you've worked on trannys for awhile __________________ Buy My Guitar and Amp Scion Tc-strup racing header, CAI, Ground Kit, NOS 100shot tuning and install in process, Custom suspension, Doc. I 50% STS "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby Thanks To My Sponsors: Strup Performance

March 22nd, 2008, 02:48 AM	#13
lwhitetrash88l Regular 2004 Mustang Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 446	well i guess everyones gotta start somewhere right? lol and im pretty knowledgable and quick to pick up on things so im going down to the library tomorrow and picking up this book.... How to Rebuild And Modify Your ... - Google Book Search .... im going to give it a go...fuck it Last edited by lwhitetrash88l : March 22nd, 2008 at 02:56 AM.

March 22nd, 2008, 07:31 AM	#14
GreenFaleen Resident MM Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.9@103/8.9@81 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 8,809	good luck man __________________ Buy My Guitar and Amp Scion Tc-strup racing header, CAI, Ground Kit, NOS 100shot tuning and install in process, Custom suspension, Doc. I 50% STS "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby Thanks To My Sponsors: Strup Performance

March 22nd, 2008, 11:41 AM	#15
lwhitetrash88l Regular 2004 Mustang Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 446	how much did you pay at a tranny specialist?

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March 23rd, 2008, 12:15 AM	#16
itschristorres8 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang V6 n proud 13.1@107mph 2.1-60' Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 13,907	i personally would just buy a junkyard tranny this job isnt easy and nothing for a beginner even myself i would double take before doing it. you'll have to remove the tranny(obviously) pull the bearings on the input shaft(seals before of course) take the transmission top cover case off slowly pull all your gears off watch for snap rings.. also pull the shift forks before even giving directions i'll have to go back because theres shit i cant remember unless im in front of the tranny. are you more in northern florida? mid or south? this isnt the easiest job. i'd rather do a head gasket __________________ 390rwhp V6 mustang stock bottom end

March 23rd, 2008, 02:24 AM	#17
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 1994 Mustang v6 slower than your average snail Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,029	dude t-5's aint too hard...once u get it off the car it will take you like 15 mins to take it all apart and about 30 mins to put it back together..just make sure everything goes back into the right spot...but definately dont do it if you dont feel comfortable doing it. Make sure on the slider gear u got the bevel to the front and all your snap rings back in the right way...and test the shift before you put it back on the car.

March 23rd, 2008, 02:42 AM	#18
cobrasvt60 Newbie 89 5.0-96 Saleen-2000 GT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: YO - OHIO Posts: 19	Tools your gonna need to rebuild your Manual Tranny if you dont have them or cant borrow them your looking to spend some money on them along with your rebuild kit so just grab yourself a used or refurbished one if you know whats best for you. I rebuilt an Auto C-5 twice actually because i forgot the reverse pin the first time. And Ive replaced 3rd gear in a M21 and replaced syncros in a T-5 its tedious work and internal parts dont bend they break just so you know. If you didnt know what syncros are then you prolly dont wanna rebuild a transmission. Goodluck Tools needed for Manual Tranny rebuild Metric socket(s) and ratchet (13mm) 7/8” open end wrench (reverse light) 3/16” diameter punch Retaining ring pliers 6” or 8” calipers 1” travel dial indicator dial indicator stand 4” C-clamp Two-jaw puller, 6-1/2” reach (Craftsman (9)46903) File, flat Parts washer or many cans of carb cleaner! Air compressor and air nozzle Regular screwdrivers (2 each: large, medium, small) 3/8” or 1/2” diameter punch (I use a Chevrolet fuel pump pushrod) Foot-pound torque wrench Dremel w/ cut-off wheel (for marking synchro hubs/rings) T40 and T50 Torx bits Bearing separator (SK 4-1/4”) and 14” long threaded rods (5/8”-18 NF) that fit it Shop press (optional, but makes life much easier) Valco Tube-Grip (RTV sealant dispenser; the best $15 I ever spent!) 1-7/8” O.D. x 1–1/4” to 1-3/8” I.D. x 5-1/2” long pipe (for cluster bearings) __________________ I WANNA GO FAST!!!!!!!

March 23rd, 2008, 11:08 AM	#20
lwhitetrash88l Regular 2004 Mustang Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 446	everyones gotta start somewhere right?