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Old April 11th, 2008, 03:05 AM   #1
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What mods would i have to safely drive around with a supercharged v6.


I talked to chris last night and i think i annoyed him, because for some reason i thought doing the 5.0 swap which would cost like 5000 would be cheaper and better than just s/cing my car. Then afterwards i realized how dumb that was, i could just blow my car and have like 450rwhp or so a 5.0 swap and be spending about equal money and have like little more than 1/2 the power. So even though a turbo would be faster i like blowers better, sorry thats my style if im going to do any forced induction. Definately wont spray my car. That shit isnt good for the engine. Some ppl like it but not me, i think its cheap power.
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This question is hard to answer. It depends on your goals. No matter what I would consider an 8.8 rear although it might not be needed at low boost. Now as far as everything else...what kind of boost are you looking for? You can do 6-8 psi safely on the stock engine. If you really want to push it, you might be able to get away with 10psi(but you might not get away with it too). If you want more boost than that, then you need forged internals.
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Originally Posted by focus0frenzy1 View Post
What mods would i have to safely drive around with a supercharged v6.


I talked to chris last night and i think i annoyed him, because for some reason i thought doing the 5.0 swap which would cost like 5000 would be cheaper and better than just s/cing my car. Then afterwards i realized how dumb that was, i could just blow my car and have like 450rwhp or so a 5.0 swap and be spending about equal money and have like little more than 1/2 the power. So even though a turbo would be faster i like blowers better, sorry thats my style if im going to do any forced induction. Definately wont spray my car. That shit isnt good for the engine. Some ppl like it but not me, i think its cheap power.
So many things wrong in this....
First off, you would need a built V6 with ALOT of boost to get 450RWHP. A Vortech on a stock V6 is about 278RWHP i think. Anywhere from 300-350RWHP yur engine gets in the dangers zone and you will want it built up to take on the added stress from boost.

Nitrous is not bad on the engine as long as it is installed correctly. If you have no fuel upgrades a 75 wet shot would be perfectly safe on the engine. Of course with any power adder you MUST have it tuned or boom. 100 shot is prolly the biggest shot you can safely use on a stock non-built engine...and that would require fuel upgrades and of course a tune.

450RWHP is possible on a V6....but i dont see it being done for less than 5000. Even if it was possible....now you have all this power, but what about the 7.5 rear axle? the stock shitty brakes? the tranny? stock suspension? You cant go balls out power without balancing everything else...or strengthening essentials that will most likely break form too much power. Chris isnt making 400RWHP and broke his tranny AND rear axle at the same time.
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I'm pretty sure Chris didn't break his /rear axle/

And >350rwhp is considered the "danger zone"
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ok, my danger zone level was off a little...better safe then sorry though.

I thought he broke his rear end?
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chris did break his rear, and spray is no more dangerous than a s/c lol

but if you want 450 thats gonna take a good amount of boost, IMO, 8.8 rear with aftermarket LSD, forged internals and a studed bottom end you'll stay safe
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^^ haha cost estimate?
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^^ haha cost estimate?
alot lol

uhh 8.8 850-1050 depending who you order from, from moser(thats a 31 spline with axles)

internals and studs 1200-2000 depending on install and such

then he will need all the safety stuff for his time
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dont forget bigger brakes to sopt all that HP ~500 -1000 depending if you do all four. Plus a better suspension to keep the car stable....price varies on what yur looking for...most basic suspension packages ive seen around around 1500.
not even getting into the price of the blower itself. ~4000 new.
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dont forget bigger brakes to sopt all that HP ~500 -1000 depending if you do all four. Plus a better suspension to keep the car stable....price varies on what yur looking for...most basic suspension packages ive seen around around 1500.
not even getting into the price of the blower itself. ~4000 new.
brakes he will be good with slotted rotors and upgraded brake lines, suspension stage one drag pack from steeda is about 800 and a great kit,

but if he stay at like 7psi on the s/c he wont need anything other than t-lok lol
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still has to purchase that s/c which even used is more than 2K

To answer the actual question at hand here.....adding a s/c to your engine is fine and safe as long as it has been taken care of. Keep the boost below 10 PSI without an intercooler though.
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Originally Posted by shadow5403 View Post
still has to purchase that s/c which even used is more than 2K

To answer the actual question at hand here.....adding a s/c to your engine is fine and safe as long as it has been taken care of. Keep the boost below 10 PSI without an intercooler though.
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Originally Posted by shadow5403 View Post
still has to purchase that s/c which even used is more than 2K

Not true, i just got a used one for 1200.00 and its just missing a 3.5inch flex hose. just depends on how good you can bargain with someone
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what brand, and how many miles were on the head unit? It its a procharger, i hear the internals need to be rebuilt every 5k or so....where as vortech will outlive the car.

still a good deal regardless.
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what brand, and how many miles were on the head unit? It its a procharger, i hear the internals need to be rebuilt every 5k or so....where as vortech will outlive the car.

still a good deal regardless.
Its a Vortech V1, i dont remember how many miles he said it had, and im too lazy to go digging thru all my emails to look . . . but still was a great deal !
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yo buy it from SSSstang?
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yo buy it from SSSstang?
nope, he wanted 3k i got it from someone on V6Power.net
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Originally Posted by shadow5403 View Post
It its a procharger, i hear the internals need to be rebuilt every 5k or so....where as vortech will outlive the car.
The prochargers don't need to have their internals rebuilt every 5k miles. If you get the self-contained unit, you need to change the oil every 6k miles with oil from procharger. There have been problems with the self-contained unit leaking oil, but its not due to the internals (I can't remember whether it is a gasket or a valve that is most common).
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Originally Posted by plove71387 View Post
nope, he wanted 3k i got it from someone on V6Power.net
The guy who was like "i came upon this supercharger and I want to sell it" ?
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turbo>nitrous>s/c stock motor
450rwhp can be done with 10psi
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