holy crap a question from me. lol

HMUSN · April 18th, 2008, 10:28 PM

1991 3.8 cougar. same single port 3,8 as the mustang.. I figured you guys might know. I'm stumped as hell.

the cougar is having a starting issue that's pissing me off.. it cranks just fine.. so it's not the starter..
it feels like it's not getting enough fuel on start up ( this is bone stock btw)

I replaced :

plugs
wires
injectors
pump
filter (air and fuel)
cleaned maf/aic
replaced pcv..

still I have to give it a quick tap of gas at start up or it dies.. yes all my fittings are secure and no I don't have any vac leaks.. I checked about 12 times...

any ideas?

Triple A · April 18th, 2008, 10:31 PM

get a v8

sorry, thats usually your answer to everything
lol

Cricket · April 18th, 2008, 10:32 PM

is your tps set correctly?

HMUSN · April 18th, 2008, 10:32 PM

^ u know that's not true.. lol

HMUSN · April 18th, 2008, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Cricket

is your tps set correctly?

yup.. I checked it when I cleaned out the TB.

whitemustang02 · April 18th, 2008, 10:34 PM

did you check the fuel regulator

1FUN4RD · April 18th, 2008, 10:34 PM

Do they (3.8) have a cam timing sensor?

HMUSN · April 18th, 2008, 10:35 PM

no that I haven't checked yet.. I'll put it on my list.

HMUSN · April 18th, 2008, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by 1FUN4RD

Do they (3.8) have a cam timing sensor?

i JUST replaced my distributer and set the timing.. the timing is perfect

1FUN4RD · April 18th, 2008, 10:39 PM

I take that as a no to the timing sensor

HMUSN · April 18th, 2008, 10:40 PM

I just can't figure it out.. I'm about to shit can this motor and drop a 350 in it .

1FUN4RD · April 18th, 2008, 10:40 PM

dirty EGR?

HMUSN · April 18th, 2008, 10:41 PM

i didn't check the EGR but I don't see it causing a hard start issue unless clogged..

1FUN4RD · April 18th, 2008, 10:43 PM

Hmmm. I had hard start & the stuttering. Someone I know (that B U) told me to clean the EGR.. FIXT both problems

itschristorres8 · April 18th, 2008, 10:46 PM

EGR wont cause a starting issue
the cougar has a coil?
it stays on when you start it and tap the gas? or no?
or is it just you need to tap the gas in order to keep it on.
whats your rpm's read at idle?

you've got me stumped a little or confused

Dansby · April 18th, 2008, 10:49 PM

This is...amazing.

HMUSN and Chris stumped in ONE thread.

HMUSN · April 18th, 2008, 11:00 PM

lol.. i have to rev it like you would in a mustang to 1500 rpms.. just a quick tap and it starts fine.. if I don't it chuges between 300-500 rpms for a few sec's before it catches.. it doesn't die on me at all.. just pisses me off.
once it catches it's just fine.. idels good the whole nine yards

the motor is the exact same thing as a single port mustang

Dansby · April 18th, 2008, 11:02 PM

Ignition Coil maybe?

HMUSN · April 18th, 2008, 11:05 PM

maybe.. lol

Dansby · April 18th, 2008, 11:06 PM

Thats just a guess, haha. I was having trouble with mine at start up, got it replaced, good to go.

Not entirely sure how they work and everything, just know it can cause that.

April 18th, 2008, 10:28 PM	#1
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	holy crap a question from me. lol 1991 3.8 cougar. same single port 3,8 as the mustang.. I figured you guys might know. I'm stumped as hell. the cougar is having a starting issue that's pissing me off.. it cranks just fine.. so it's not the starter.. it feels like it's not getting enough fuel on start up ( this is bone stock btw) I replaced : plugs wires injectors pump filter (air and fuel) cleaned maf/aic replaced pcv.. still I have to give it a quick tap of gas at start up or it dies.. yes all my fittings are secure and no I don't have any vac leaks.. I checked about 12 times... any ideas? __________________

April 18th, 2008, 10:32 PM	#4
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	^ u know that's not true.. lol __________________

April 18th, 2008, 10:34 PM	#6
whitemustang02 MM's official Chevy guy 2002 Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,026 iTrader: 0 reviews	did you check the fuel regulator __________________ "Speak softly and carry a big stick" - Theodore Roosevelt "Any idiot can make a V8 fast, it takes a real idiot to make a fast V6". '02 Mustang N/A 4.3 stroker away for winter '72 Chevelle project car 454 coming '93 Bronco EFI 351W DD

April 18th, 2008, 10:34 PM	#7
1FUN4RD MMs Ford Racing Nut Swinger 2007 MUSTANG GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CENTRAL IOWA Posts: 4,360 iTrader: 3 reviews	Do they (3.8) have a cam timing sensor? __________________ www.1fun4rd.blogspot.com

April 18th, 2008, 10:35 PM	#8
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	no that I haven't checked yet.. I'll put it on my list. __________________

April 18th, 2008, 10:31 PM	#2
Triple A Shake Me Like A Monkey Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,005 iTrader: 1 reviews	get a v8 sorry, thats usually your answer to everything lol

April 18th, 2008, 10:39 PM	#10
1FUN4RD MMs Ford Racing Nut Swinger 2007 MUSTANG GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CENTRAL IOWA Posts: 4,360 iTrader: 3 reviews	I take that as a no to the timing sensor __________________ www.1fun4rd.blogspot.com

April 18th, 2008, 10:40 PM	#11
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	I just can't figure it out.. I'm about to shit can this motor and drop a 350 in it . __________________

April 18th, 2008, 10:40 PM	#12
1FUN4RD MMs Ford Racing Nut Swinger 2007 MUSTANG GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CENTRAL IOWA Posts: 4,360 iTrader: 3 reviews	dirty EGR? __________________ www.1fun4rd.blogspot.com

April 18th, 2008, 10:41 PM	#13
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	i didn't check the EGR but I don't see it causing a hard start issue unless clogged.. __________________

April 18th, 2008, 10:43 PM	#14
1FUN4RD MMs Ford Racing Nut Swinger 2007 MUSTANG GT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CENTRAL IOWA Posts: 4,360 iTrader: 3 reviews	Hmmm. I had hard start & the stuttering. Someone I know (that B U) told me to clean the EGR.. FIXT both problems __________________ www.1fun4rd.blogspot.com

April 18th, 2008, 10:46 PM	#15
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,859 iTrader: 2 reviews	EGR wont cause a starting issue the cougar has a coil? it stays on when you start it and tap the gas? or no? or is it just you need to tap the gas in order to keep it on. whats your rpm's read at idle? you've got me stumped a little or confused __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

April 18th, 2008, 10:49 PM	#16
Dansby Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 2,313 iTrader: 1 reviews	This is...amazing. HMUSN and Chris stumped in ONE thread.

April 18th, 2008, 11:00 PM	#17
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	lol.. i have to rev it like you would in a mustang to 1500 rpms.. just a quick tap and it starts fine.. if I don't it chuges between 300-500 rpms for a few sec's before it catches.. it doesn't die on me at all.. just pisses me off. once it catches it's just fine.. idels good the whole nine yards the motor is the exact same thing as a single port mustang __________________

April 18th, 2008, 11:02 PM	#18
Dansby Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 2,313 iTrader: 1 reviews	Ignition Coil maybe?

April 18th, 2008, 11:05 PM	#19
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	maybe.. lol __________________

April 18th, 2008, 11:06 PM	#20
Dansby Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 2,313 iTrader: 1 reviews	Thats just a guess, haha. I was having trouble with mine at start up, got it replaced, good to go. Not entirely sure how they work and everything, just know it can cause that.

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