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riddlee josh · April 23rd, 2008, 11:30 AM

ight i have a friend that bought a car from a street raceraround my area. he said he was looking at it and noticed that the air didn't work. he could hear it but it didn't come out the vents. he decided to look under the hood.and noticed that the air was routed to shoot strait into the cai. so his air conditioning was going straightinto his cai. this spounds like a good idea. extra air and it would be super cold air also

would this work? anyone heard of this?

Cricket · April 23rd, 2008, 11:32 AM

not as well as you think it would work, the air going in there i dont think would have enough speed or would be a large enough volume to really do anything to beneficial

shadow5403 · April 23rd, 2008, 11:45 AM

plus by turning your AC on, you are using another accessory which makes you use more power. Notice how you dont have the same get up and go power when the AC is on?

GreenFaleen · April 23rd, 2008, 11:45 AM

it would be like a really low rent intercooler our not going to see any gains

Avaric3 · April 23rd, 2008, 11:50 AM

i remember reading something about svt tried that on the lightning. they used the a/c to cool the incoming air and gained something like 54rwhp. not sure if this was true or not. probly not tho lol

riddlee josh · April 23rd, 2008, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Avaric3

i remember reading something about svt tried that on the lightning. they used the a/c to cool the incoming air and gained something like 54rwhp. not sure if this was true or not. probly not tho lol

yea i doubt you would gain that much. i was thinking maybe like 5-10 hp

Toph6888 · April 23rd, 2008, 01:26 PM

from an engineering point of view u wouldnt see any gains from it, because since u have to put energy into the compressor to get it to cool the air, it takes more energy to cool the air then it would give u in the combustion...honestly it sounds like a good idea initially, but honestly i cant see it working

motorhead6776 · April 23rd, 2008, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by shadow5403

plus by turning your AC on, you are using another accessory which makes you use more power. Notice how you dont have the same get up and go power when the AC is on?

hah mine does that wicked bad. probably makes sense tho seeing as my ac compressor has seized up like a brick.

deedub97GT · April 23rd, 2008, 01:34 PM

agreed its of no use sounds cool and prolly made the kids with civics think he is badass

deedub97GT · April 23rd, 2008, 01:38 PM

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motorhead6776 · April 23rd, 2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by deedub97GT

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Blainestang · April 23rd, 2008, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Avaric3

i remember reading something about svt tried that on the lightning. they used the a/c to cool the incoming air and gained something like 54rwhp. not sure if this was true or not. probly not tho lol

Yes, SVT had a system on the 3rd Gen Lightning concept that used A/C cooled air into the intake.

However, the A/C wasn't just routed into the intake. Like others have said, the flow rate would be much too small, and you'd be using more energy to cool the air than what you would gain by using it.

The SVT system had a reserve tank that would be filled over the course of a few minutes (IIRC) with cooled air. THEN, once it is filled, that air would be automatically released into the intake when the car was WOT.

The difference is, the SVT system saves up a significant amount of air because the standard airflow out of the A/C is insufficient... AND, the SVT system sacrifices non-WOT performance while filling the tank for increased WOT performance, rather than trying to do both at the same time.

motorhead6776 · April 23rd, 2008, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Blainestang

Yes, SVT had a system on the 3rd Gen Lightning concept that used A/C cooled air into the intake.

However, the A/C wasn't just routed into the intake. Like others have said, the flow rate would be much too small, and you'd be using more energy to cool the air than what you would gain by using it.

The SVT system had a reserve tank that would be filled over the course of a few minutes (IIRC) with cooled air. THEN, once it is filled, that air would be automatically released into the intake when the car was WOT.

The difference is, the SVT system saves up a significant amount of air because the standard airflow out of the A/C is insufficient... AND, the SVT system sacrifices non-WOT performance while filling the tank for increased WOT performance, rather than trying to do both at the same time.

^^^ neat

April 23rd, 2008, 11:30 AM	#1
riddlee josh Regular 1998 mustang 3.8l v6 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: portsmouth ohio Posts: 474	? ight i have a friend that bought a car from a street raceraround my area. he said he was looking at it and noticed that the air didn't work. he could hear it but it didn't come out the vents. he decided to look under the hood.and noticed that the air was routed to shoot strait into the cai. so his air conditioning was going straightinto his cai. this spounds like a good idea. extra air and it would be super cold air also would this work? anyone heard of this? __________________ 1998 mustang v6,UD pulleys,msd 8.5 mm wires shorty headers no cats H pipe flowmaster knock offs cold air intake w/ k n filter headlights mirrors 2 10 xplod subs 1000 watt amp really wanting/needing a split port swap. hopefully in the near future

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Avaric3 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 V6 Mustang shootin for 13.2-13.3 w/ nitrous :) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: M-Pan, NJ Posts: 2,185	i remember reading something about svt tried that on the lightning. they used the a/c to cool the incoming air and gained something like 54rwhp. not sure if this was true or not. probly not tho lol __________________ COMING THIS FALL TO A STREET NEAR YOU- Dynotune 75 wet shot, aluminum ds, VAP windstar upper, VAP intake spacer, MMR front coil-overs, Eibach sportline rear springs, xcal 3, 4.10s+T-lok, udp, lt headers, o/r h, mac catback, 275/50-15 555Rs

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Toph6888 Regular 2000 Mustang V6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 265	from an engineering point of view u wouldnt see any gains from it, because since u have to put energy into the compressor to get it to cool the air, it takes more energy to cool the air then it would give u in the combustion...honestly it sounds like a good idea initially, but honestly i cant see it working __________________ "Patience is not a virtue. Patience is taking ur time to get to the far end of the track"

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