My 2000 Mustang V6 (Questions)

AtlanticBlue99 · October 29th, 2006, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by itschristorres8

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99

Originally Posted by jeff

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99

i added 7mph to every gear with the xcal2, 25% firmer shifts, and have consistency. beats the hell out of a 5 speed imo

what is firmer shifts ? and do you have a automatic

yes i have an auto- much more consistent than a manual. firmer shifts are quicker shifts by the tranny. it is all controlled by the computer- shift points, firmness, rpm and speed...

with that being sed....is your next car gunna be an auto as well

they dont make svt's in automatics

jeff · October 29th, 2006, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Onemanzu

pish... no fun

auto's might be faster but theirs no joy in driving them... it reminds me of sitting on a couch and watching the road go by...

Its still fun i think pluss if you tired or not feeling well you dont have to worry about shifting or any thing. but now since i know more about mustangs and stuff my next mustang will be gt and manual trans. probly wont be for a long time though.

Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo · October 29th, 2006, 05:45 PM

autos can only be faster in a strait line, and i dont have to even think about shifting anmore, it just sort of happens, so i dont "worry" about shifting at all most of the time

ssajdowitz · October 29th, 2006, 06:03 PM

When my car was auto, it was definately faster. But, if you guys drive in town most of the time, don't get a drag clutch. As you let the clutch out, it goes : nothing, nothing, nothing, BAM!, Full Engagement.

My legs were really sore from playing football one day. And, I had to drive home with a Spec Stage 3 clutch (lots of pedal force). It was a very jerky ride.

I still like stick better.

jeff · October 29th, 2006, 06:53 PM

i dont know any more about manual what is the advantage if its slower then a auto ? i used to be dumb and thought that you can only burn out with a manual but you can do it just as easy with an auto.

ssajdowitz · October 29th, 2006, 10:53 PM

I guess I forgot to mention that autos are generally faster with boosted vehicles. You can keep the pedal down and maintain high boost pressure.

With manual boosted cars, you let off the gas when you shift (you should anyway). Then, you lose boost and need to regain it. It builds up fast, so there isn't much loss.

Drivetrain loss is significantly less on a manual. This usually makes naturally aspirated cars with automatics slower than manuals.

I guess it all depends on how much power your engine puts out. Lots of power means an auto is faster. Less power means a manual is faster.

There will be exceptions, but generally speaking that rule works.

itschristorres8 · October 30th, 2006, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by ssajdowitz

I guess I forgot to mention that autos are generally faster with boosted vehicles. You can keep the pedal down and maintain high boost pressure.

With manual boosted cars, you let off the gas when you shift (you should anyway). Then, you lose boost and need to regain it. It builds up fast, so there isn't much loss.

Drivetrain loss is significantly less on a manual. This usually makes naturally aspirated cars with automatics slower than manuals.

I guess it all depends on how much power your engine puts out. Lots of power means an auto is faster. Less power means a manual is faster.

There will be exceptions, but generally speaking that rule works.

he got it down pretty much 100%..
stock v6 auto vs stock v6 manual..the manual will win

but highly modded, most likey the auto will win

Onemanzu · October 30th, 2006, 12:58 AM

: ) i beat a stock v6 auto... one of the newer ones like chris's with my 97 v6 manual... it had more power but i won so its all good

AtlanticBlue99 · October 30th, 2006, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Onemanzu

: ) i beat a stock v6 auto... one of the newer ones like chris's with my 97 v6 manual... it had more power but i won so its all good

drivers make a race. you can beat any car if the other driver sucks

Onemanzu · October 30th, 2006, 12:14 PM

... he didn't have to do much driving tho... just wait for the light to turn green and go...

itschristorres8 · October 30th, 2006, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99

Originally Posted by Onemanzu

: ) i beat a stock v6 auto... one of the newer ones like chris's with my 97 v6 manual... it had more power but i won so its all good

drivers make a race. you can beat any car if the other driver sucks

also true.. ive seen ppl with timeslips that are a full second and more behind where they should be.

jeff · October 30th, 2006, 02:32 PM

hey chris how big are those rims 18'' ?

itschristorres8 · October 30th, 2006, 02:53 PM

17x9
kinda wish i had 18s but they dont make mine in 18s, or i havent seen them. plus as it is they've slowed my car down enough, 18s would be to much. im kinda thinkin about selling them for some lighter rims

jeff · October 30th, 2006, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by itschristorres8

17x9
kinda wish i had 18s but they dont make mine in 18s, or i havent seen them. plus as it is they've slowed my car down enough, 18s would be to much. im kinda thinkin about selling them for some lighter rims

really? they slow your car down? i never thought of rims slowing you down , is it a noticable slow down ?

itschristorres8 · October 30th, 2006, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by jeff

Originally Posted by itschristorres8

17x9
kinda wish i had 18s but they dont make mine in 18s, or i havent seen them. plus as it is they've slowed my car down enough, 18s would be to much. im kinda thinkin about selling them for some lighter rims

really? they slow your car down? i never thought of rims slowing you down , is it a noticable slow down ?

it kinda is..not very noticable but i notice it...its cuz the rims are heavier, and it take longer for the wheel to rotate

Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo · October 30th, 2006, 10:09 PM

the further out the mass on the wheel is, the greater the power loss to the raod is, both larger brakes and bigger rims have more rotational mass further out from the axel, causing greater power loss.

this is all ok though, because the increase in traction and cornering of the wider and shorter tire outwieghs the possible acceleration losses due to the big rim most of the time.

ssajdowitz · October 30th, 2006, 11:30 PM

Newton's 2nd law (when converted to angular coordinates) states T=I*alpha where T=torque, I=moment of inertia, and alpha=angular acceleration.

The torque remains constant so if you increase the moment of inertia, the angular acceleration must decrease in order to keep a constant torque.

Onemanzu · October 31st, 2006, 01:34 AM

i noticed that today... i got my new rims on my car... the 17x8's and my car felt a lil slower... and i asked my navigator(brother) and he said it seems a bit slower... or maybe a lil rougher ride but we couldn't quit figure out if it was indeed slower or not...

the grand prix GT next to me couldn't tell that my car was slower... especially from the rear... ha

but yea i was wondering ... if it was slower or not ... and i guess the answer is yea

00SoSlow · November 1st, 2006, 12:38 AM

some wheels cause it to go slower due to weight of the wheels... the more mass the more power needed to turn, it is possible

NATE · November 6th, 2006, 11:18 PM

the turbo should be about 4 grand for eveything and it will put u close to 385 rwhp. u can get the headlights on ebay brand new for 100$ shipped. and the smoked headlights came stock on the 2003-2004 v6. and window tint will cost about 200 but dont get the windshield tinted because it is highly illegal and you can get a huge ticket

October 29th, 2006, 05:45 PM	#63
Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 462 iTrader: 0 reviews	autos can only be faster in a strait line, and i dont have to even think about shifting anmore, it just sort of happens, so i dont "worry" about shifting at all most of the time __________________ God... That Euro import guy is really starting to get on my nerves... my car can only beat his in a strait line(maybe)

October 30th, 2006, 12:58 AM	#68
Onemanzu ¡ʇsnq ɹo uʍop ǝpısdn Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Looking for free hand jobs in poland springs nebraska... silly gooses Posts: 12,514 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	: ) i beat a stock v6 auto... one of the newer ones like chris's with my 97 v6 manual... it had more power but i won so its all good __________________ My Foz

October 30th, 2006, 12:14 PM	#70
Onemanzu ¡ʇsnq ɹo uʍop ǝpısdn Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Looking for free hand jobs in poland springs nebraska... silly gooses Posts: 12,514 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	... he didn't have to do much driving tho... just wait for the light to turn green and go... __________________ My Foz

October 30th, 2006, 02:53 PM	#73
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,859 iTrader: 2 reviews	17x9 kinda wish i had 18s but they dont make mine in 18s, or i havent seen them. plus as it is they've slowed my car down enough, 18s would be to much. im kinda thinkin about selling them for some lighter rims __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

October 30th, 2006, 10:09 PM	#76
Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 462 iTrader: 0 reviews	the further out the mass on the wheel is, the greater the power loss to the raod is, both larger brakes and bigger rims have more rotational mass further out from the axel, causing greater power loss. this is all ok though, because the increase in traction and cornering of the wider and shorter tire outwieghs the possible acceleration losses due to the big rim most of the time. __________________ God... That Euro import guy is really starting to get on my nerves... my car can only beat his in a strait line(maybe)

October 29th, 2006, 06:03 PM	#64
ssajdowitz Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: West Bend, Wisconsin Posts: 141 iTrader: 0 reviews	When my car was auto, it was definately faster. But, if you guys drive in town most of the time, don't get a drag clutch. As you let the clutch out, it goes : nothing, nothing, nothing, BAM!, Full Engagement. My legs were really sore from playing football one day. And, I had to drive home with a Spec Stage 3 clutch (lots of pedal force). It was a very jerky ride. I still like stick better.

October 29th, 2006, 06:53 PM	#65
jeff Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 182 iTrader: 0 reviews	i dont know any more about manual what is the advantage if its slower then a auto ? i used to be dumb and thought that you can only burn out with a manual but you can do it just as easy with an auto.

October 29th, 2006, 10:53 PM	#66
ssajdowitz Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: West Bend, Wisconsin Posts: 141 iTrader: 0 reviews	I guess I forgot to mention that autos are generally faster with boosted vehicles. You can keep the pedal down and maintain high boost pressure. With manual boosted cars, you let off the gas when you shift (you should anyway). Then, you lose boost and need to regain it. It builds up fast, so there isn't much loss. Drivetrain loss is significantly less on a manual. This usually makes naturally aspirated cars with automatics slower than manuals. I guess it all depends on how much power your engine puts out. Lots of power means an auto is faster. Less power means a manual is faster. There will be exceptions, but generally speaking that rule works.

October 30th, 2006, 02:32 PM	#72
jeff Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 182 iTrader: 0 reviews	hey chris how big are those rims 18'' ?

October 30th, 2006, 11:30 PM	#77
ssajdowitz Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: West Bend, Wisconsin Posts: 141 iTrader: 0 reviews	Newton's 2nd law (when converted to angular coordinates) states T=I*alpha where T=torque, I=moment of inertia, and alpha=angular acceleration. The torque remains constant so if you increase the moment of inertia, the angular acceleration must decrease in order to keep a constant torque.

October 31st, 2006, 01:34 AM	#78
Onemanzu ¡ʇsnq ɹo uʍop ǝpısdn Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Looking for free hand jobs in poland springs nebraska... silly gooses Posts: 12,514 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	i noticed that today... i got my new rims on my car... the 17x8's and my car felt a lil slower... and i asked my navigator(brother) and he said it seems a bit slower... or maybe a lil rougher ride but we couldn't quit figure out if it was indeed slower or not... the grand prix GT next to me couldn't tell that my car was slower... especially from the rear... ha but yea i was wondering ... if it was slower or not ... and i guess the answer is yea __________________ My Foz

November 1st, 2006, 12:38 AM	#79
00SoSlow Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 1,340 iTrader: 0 reviews	some wheels cause it to go slower due to weight of the wheels... the more mass the more power needed to turn, it is possible __________________ 2000 V6 Performance Red @ Cardomain Was fun but a waste... 1987 LX Hatch \| Soon to be a 600hp monster

November 6th, 2006, 11:18 PM	#80
NATE Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	the turbo should be about 4 grand for eveything and it will put u close to 385 rwhp. u can get the headlights on ebay brand new for 100$ shipped. and the smoked headlights came stock on the 2003-2004 v6. and window tint will cost about 200 but dont get the windshield tinted because it is highly illegal and you can get a huge ticket

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