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Old May 23rd, 2008, 03:40 PM   #1
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i know that turbo kits give you a little better gas mileage but when i start running the boost just how much gas mileage will i be loosing???
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I think that it might just be a typo, but turbo kits don't give you better gas mileage. I think how much MPG you lose depends on how much boost you're running. Talk to chris he should be able to give you some more exact numbers.
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actually cruizing in ur at low rpms (like 1800-2300) with a turbo can give u better gas mileage with a good tune, because since there is a higher oxygen density (bc of the turbo thats wat it does) there is more complete combustion of the gasoline, thus making it more fuel efficient...its not always the case taht u will notice a difference at all, but at low rpms it doesnt hurt ur mpg like a supercharger does
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You will never see a gain in mpg with a turbo. They still cost about 5-15hp, but are WAY more efficient than blowers because basically when you are not using them, they don't cost near the power of a blower, and should retain near stock mpg. At part throttle the turbo is not doing anything.
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Originally Posted by Trick Tuners View Post
You will never see a gain in mpg with a turbo. They still cost about 5-15hp, but are WAY more efficient than blowers because basically when you are not using them, they don't cost near the power of a blower, and should retain near stock mpg. At part throttle the turbo is not doing anything.
just curious, but how do u figure that they cost you about 5-15 hp, they run off of wasted energy, so they only possible way that they could cost u horsepower would be because of back pressure from teh engine but i dont really see that hurting ur gas mileage
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i have the sts kit and its getting dyno tuned
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just curious, but how do u figure that they cost you about 5-15 hp, they run off of wasted energy, so they only possible way that they could cost u horsepower would be because of back pressure from teh engine but i dont really see that hurting ur gas mileage
Its not 100% , they still cost a small amount.
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i just heard with the sts kits u get a little better gas mileage like 2-4 gallons but when your running 9 or 10 psi i thought u get worse gas mileage??? i dont know i guess il find out next week
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Originally Posted by turismo374 View Post
i know that turbo kits give you a little better gas mileage but when i start running the boost just how much gas mileage will i be loosing???
figuring out mpg at WOT is extremely difficult and a pretty useless question honestly
if your worried about what you'll be losing you shouldnt install the turbo kit


you would have to run the car at WOT i'd say for at least 10miles to be sure after you've filled up at a gas station...and you must leave the gas station at WOT and return at WOT......fill up and see what you filled up

also you must do this w/o you turbo install the same exact way only probably 15miles


thats the only accurate way to do it to get an exact answer...
which is extremely bad for the car and within 8miles you'll probably do one of the following
A.) Get arrest
B.) Crash
C.) Blow your motor
D.) put un-need wear on the motor
E.) blow out a tire if its not rated high enough


you can probably hit welll well over 100mph within a mile....so within 8miles holding it at WOT your maxing out EVERYTHING on that car
turbo
rear
tranny
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tires
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Originally Posted by turismo374 View Post
i just heard with the sts kits u get a little better gas mileage like 2-4 gallons but when your running 9 or 10 psi i thought u get worse gas mileage??? i dont know i guess il find out next week
sts design has nothing to do with getting better mpg
its just a bigger lag design with less power
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Originally Posted by itschristorres8 View Post
you would have to run the car at WOT i'd say for at least 10miles to be sure after you've filled up at a gas station...and you must leave the gas station at WOT and return at WOT......fill up and see what you filled up
sounds dangerous, and fun... im game

you could find your fuels consumption rate in gallons per hour and do that as a measuring tool... and then with a little math... figure out your final MPG
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here we go with everyone just knocking the sts kit, the 05 v6 stang has 166 hp at the wheels with the sts kit i can have around 350 hp at the wheels how the hell is that not producing power???? anyway on horsepower tv they did an install on a vette and they said u get better fuel mileage, all im asking is if u lose a considerable amount of gas mileage when running around 9 psi
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Originally Posted by turismo374 View Post
here we go with everyone just knocking the sts kit, the 05 v6 stang has 166 hp at the wheels with the sts kit i can have around 350 hp at the wheels how the hell is that not producing power???? anyway on horsepower tv they did an install on a vette and they said u get better fuel mileage, all im asking is if u lose a considerable amount of gas mileage when running around 9 psi
who said anything about not producing power
350hp?
have you seen they're site numbers...they're horrible vs powerhouse... all they're numbers are, GT's, GTO's Vettes you name it


yes your going to worse mpg...bigger fuel injectors and fuel pump is for a reason...to flow more fuel

if your worried then you shouldnt be going on boost

its not just about producing power btw
its about producing the most power efficiently
STS does that about as good as a s/c does....which is sad for a turbo kit
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and plus was it you that said you made 360hp with your turbo?
and now your saying you'll make 350hp with 9 psi?

STS website says you'll make 313rwhp and 326rwtq(tuned)

WOW you'll make what i made on my 3.8L push rod with out a tune on 8.7psi!
with a heavier car resulting in a slower car

that turbo is only rated to 350hp...doesnt mean your making it with 9psi

oh and on 5psi that kit made 250rwhp and 256rwtq
i made 279rwhp and 293rwtq with just 5.8psi and no dyno tuning again

a car with a 20hp higher rating then mine...making 30rwhp LESS with a tune vs no dyno tune..
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the turbos rated to 500 hp and the 313 from the site was produced on a bone stock v6, i also have performance headers, and an 8.8 rear with t lock.
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not to mention my system has an intercooler the one on the site does not
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Originally Posted by turismo374 View Post
here we go with everyone just knocking the sts kit, the 05 v6 stang has 166 hp at the wheels with the sts kit i can have around 350 hp at the wheels how the hell is that not producing power???? anyway on horsepower tv they did an install on a vette and they said u get better fuel mileage, all im asking is if u lose a considerable amount of gas mileage when running around 9 psi
A vette (z06) also gets 500+ HP N/A. It is a totally different car. A turbo does put more air in your engine for a more complete burn...however, you are also putting more fuel into your engine to keep up a good AF ratio. Thus you are using more fuel. Also, whoever said that a turbo will give you better MPG at low RPM is full of shit. Your turbo won't spool at low RPM and therefore isn't doing shit. I agree with Chris if you're really worried about MPGs you shouldn't be installing a turbo. Overall your MPG won't drop that much...but it will drop.
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lol geez im not worried im just curious cause i heard that your gas will just drain out when u really get on the car.
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Originally Posted by turismo374 View Post
the turbos rated to 500 hp and the 313 from the site was produced on a bone stock v6, i also have performance headers, and an 8.8 rear with t lock.
Originally Posted by turismo374 View Post
not to mention my system has an intercooler the one on the site does not
tell me how much hp the 8.8 rear gives you

buddy you have ALOT TO LEARN
that systems ONLY bennifit is it being cooler...having intercooler doesnt help the boost drops that system will already have...not mention probably barely cool much..

next 8.8 rear end will do absolutly nothing as far as increasing numbers lol
if anything it'll hurt from 7.5

wow headers....you probably have shorty headers..which are worth a WHOLE LOT


lol at least i dont post numbers i dont have


or claim to beat cars ive never raced or beaten


or try to pwn someone that clearly knows more then me on something


or think STS makes the better turbo kit



at least i dont have to come on here and lie to look cool


oh and at least i can say my 3.8L turbo makes more then a higher potiential 4.0L v6 doesnt with the STS turbo

oh on more...at least i didnt have to fork over hundreds of $$ to have my kit installed because you cant get your hands dirty


if i need to go on let me know
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