A few questions...

AMR91 · June 1st, 2008, 07:02 PM

Hello, I am new to this forum and I own a completely stock 2000 v6 automatic Mustang.

I am thinking about doing a few upgrades but I have a few questions first.

First question- Is this a good CAI for the price because I don't have too many upgrades and I don't want to spent to much on a CAI if I don't need it that bad. (Cant post links yet but it is the one from Americanmuscle for $75).

Second question- UDP's...I have read a lot about these but has anybody had any negative effects from them such as dimmer headlights or something...Just wondering. And also if I were to buy a set of UDP's would I buy a set that comes with three pulleys? I heard FRPP is the best but would any brand work the same? And would I need to buy a new belt for the new pulleys?

Third question- Gears...I have also read a lot about the 4.10 gears which I am leaning more towards buying than the 3.73 gears. I have heard but I am not sure if it is true, but are the 4.10 gears harder on your engine? I don't do too much highway driving that far, but a few times during the winter season I may drive a few hours on the highway to go snowboarding. So I was wondering if these were the right gears for me?
Also, I know I have to buy a tuner if I were to buy new gears. Which tuner do you guys recommend, and it is easy enough to use so I could tune it myself (btw I am kind of new to this if you haven't guessed already, so keep that in mind). And what else do I need to buy with the gears to get everything working and running well.

WHEWW...sorry I asked so many things, hopefully you guys can answer most of them for me.

04DSGV6 · June 1st, 2008, 08:17 PM

Welcome to the forums. My answers are in red. For future reference please use the search button.

Originally Posted by AMR91

Hello, I am new to this forum and I own a completely stock 2000 v6 automatic Mustang.

I am thinking about doing a few upgrades but I have a few questions first.

First question- Is this a good CAI for the price because I don't have too many upgrades and I don't want to spent to much on a CAI if I don't need it that bad. (Cant post links yet but it is the one from Americanmuscle for $75). Yes, buying a cheap one is just as good as a KN or any name brand

Second question- UDP's...I have read a lot about these but has anybody had any negative effects from them such as dimmer headlights or something...Just wondering. And also if I were to buy a set of UDP's would I buy a set that comes with three pulleys? I heard FRPP is the best but would any brand work the same? And would I need to buy a new belt for the new pulleys? Only electrical problem you will have is if you are running amps for subs or something. 3 pulleys will free up more hp. I believe MOTO blue pulleys are the only ones people say to stay away from because they warp. You will need a new belt

Third question- Gears...I have also read a lot about the 4.10 gears which I am leaning more towards buying than the 3.73 gears. I have heard but I am not sure if it is true, but are the 4.10 gears harder on your engine? I don't do too much highway driving that far, but a few times during the winter season I may drive a few hours on the highway to go snowboarding. So I was wondering if these were the right gears for me?
All that the gears will do is raise your RPMs a bit and lose some MPG like 1-5. Not hard on the engine really. If you have an auto go 4.10 if manual do 3.73

Also, I know I have to buy a tuner if I were to buy new gears. Which tuner do you guys recommend, and it is easy enough to use so I could tune it myself (btw I am kind of new to this if you haven't guessed already, so keep that in mind). If you are new to this I wouldn't tune it myself further than adjusting for the gears. If you really want to tune it yourself diablo tuner is the way to go. Most people here prefer SCT and Trick Tuners will sell you an SCT tuner with two years of free tunes. If you have big plans for the car that will need a DYNO tune use whatever the Dyno shop uses.

And what else do I need to buy with the gears to get everything working and running well. I would throw in a T-Lock. While you are upgrading gears why not add in one. V6's aren't equipped with them from factory just GTs. You will need a master bearing kit and new fluid + friction modifier. Don't try to installl yourself, get a few quotes from shops.

WHEWW...sorry I asked so many things, hopefully you guys can answer most of them for me.

AMR91 · June 1st, 2008, 08:32 PM

Thank you for clearing up some of my questions...BTW I did search this stuff before I asked. I just needed a few specific questions answered.

HMUSN · June 1st, 2008, 08:34 PM

welcome to the forums man.

mooses · June 1st, 2008, 08:40 PM

I have a 25% UDP and if I'm sitting at idle with my lights and wipers on, the lights will be just a tad dimmer than normal. If you are driving with rpms any higher than idle, this won't be a problem unless you are running a large sound system.

You will love 4.10s if you decide to go down that route. When I had my auto + 4.10s, it definitely woke the car up more than all the mods I had done combined. You might notice a slight loss in mpg for city driving, but you will definitely lose mpg on pure highway trips. I lost around 4-5 mpg highway.

AMR91 · June 1st, 2008, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by mooses

I have a 25% UDP and if I'm sitting at idle with my lights and wipers on, the lights will be just a tad dimmer than normal. If you are driving with rpms any higher than idle, this won't be a problem unless you are running a large sound system.

You will love 4.10s if you decide to go down that route. When I had my auto + 4.10s, it definitely woke the car up more than all the mods I had done combined. You might notice a slight loss in mpg for city driving, but you will definitely lose mpg on pure highway trips. I lost around 4-5 mpg highway.

thanks for the help..That is kind of a lot of mpg loss for those new gears. I didn't know you would lose that much.. And for the UDP's it doesn't so dim its hard to see right? And are there any other negative effects from them.

mooses · June 1st, 2008, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by AMR91

thanks for the help..That is kind of a lot of mpg loss for those new gears. I didn't know you would lose that much.. And for the UDP's it doesn't so dim its hard to see right? And are there any other negative effects from them.

No, it doesn't dim that much. It's just enough where you can notice the difference if you blip the throttle. You wouldn't notice it if you aren't looking for the change.

AMR91 · June 1st, 2008, 10:07 PM

ok thanks

AMR91 · June 1st, 2008, 11:37 PM

Does a 2000 v6 Mustang have a 7.5 rear end, not and 8.8 right?
If so will these work? eBay Motors: Ford Mustang Racing 4.10 7.5" Gear Set V6 3.8 (item 280230742602 end time Jun-02-08 20:43:30 PDT)

04DSGV6 · June 2nd, 2008, 12:01 AM

yes to both

AMR91 · June 2nd, 2008, 12:58 AM

Alright. Do you think those gears are good or should I be looking at other gears?

MWWarlord · June 2nd, 2008, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by AMR91

Does a 2000 v6 Mustang have a 7.5 rear end, not and 8.8 right?
If so will these work? eBay Motors: Ford Mustang Racing 4.10 7.5" Gear Set V6 3.8 (item 280230742602 end time Jun-02-08 20:43:30 PDT)

It is best NOT to buy used gears. Used gears will have a pre-established wear pattern on them that will not match your car. It could cause you some problems.
Also welcome to MM

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DeMello · June 2nd, 2008, 01:27 AM

+1

get a hold of jess@re and see if he has any gears for the 7.5 rear

MWWarlord · June 2nd, 2008, 01:28 AM

Also so that you know on your car 4.10 gears will give you a 25% increase in rear wheel torque. As for tuner stuff, click the link in my sig...you'll find all you need there.

DeMello · June 2nd, 2008, 01:28 AM

Forums at Modded Mustangs - View Profile: Jess@RE

MWWarlord · June 2nd, 2008, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by 04DSGV6

Welcome to the forums. My answers are in red. For future reference please use the search button.

Great post. Almost word for word what I would have said(the whole post not just this part) + rep for you

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DeMello · June 2nd, 2008, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by MWWarlord

Also so that you know on your car 4.10 gears will give you a 25% increase in rear wheel torque. As for tuner stuff, click the link in my sig...you'll find all you need there.

same with gts?

mine gears are in the mial rite now

MWWarlord · June 2nd, 2008, 01:38 AM

I think so...there is a gear ratio / torque calculator in a sticky in this section. Put in your info...you can see exactly what gains you'll see.

DeMello · June 2nd, 2008, 01:40 AM

you know the title so i can search for it by any chance?

i typed gear ratio / torque calculator and this thread is all that came up

DeMello · June 2nd, 2008, 01:43 AM

this is all i coudl find...but im goign to bed lol

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-formulas.html

June 1st, 2008, 07:02 PM	#1
AMR91 Regular 2000 Mustang Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 87 iTrader: 0 reviews	A few questions... Hello, I am new to this forum and I own a completely stock 2000 v6 automatic Mustang. I am thinking about doing a few upgrades but I have a few questions first. First question- Is this a good CAI for the price because I don't have too many upgrades and I don't want to spent to much on a CAI if I don't need it that bad. (Cant post links yet but it is the one from Americanmuscle for $75). Second question- UDP's...I have read a lot about these but has anybody had any negative effects from them such as dimmer headlights or something...Just wondering. And also if I were to buy a set of UDP's would I buy a set that comes with three pulleys? I heard FRPP is the best but would any brand work the same? And would I need to buy a new belt for the new pulleys? Third question- Gears...I have also read a lot about the 4.10 gears which I am leaning more towards buying than the 3.73 gears. I have heard but I am not sure if it is true, but are the 4.10 gears harder on your engine? I don't do too much highway driving that far, but a few times during the winter season I may drive a few hours on the highway to go snowboarding. So I was wondering if these were the right gears for me? Also, I know I have to buy a tuner if I were to buy new gears. Which tuner do you guys recommend, and it is easy enough to use so I could tune it myself (btw I am kind of new to this if you haven't guessed already, so keep that in mind). And what else do I need to buy with the gears to get everything working and running well. WHEWW...sorry I asked so many things, hopefully you guys can answer most of them for me.

June 1st, 2008, 08:34 PM	#4
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	welcome to the forums man. __________________

June 2nd, 2008, 01:27 AM	#13
DeMello Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 3,947 iTrader: 1 reviews	+1 get a hold of jess@re and see if he has any gears for the 7.5 rear __________________ Just Another Bolt on GT [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/54f5ua.jpg[/IMG] Stock Longblock - 287/276 Low 12s NA! 10s on the spray?

June 2nd, 2008, 01:28 AM	#14
MWWarlord Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang convertible Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,409 iTrader: 0 reviews	Also so that you know on your car 4.10 gears will give you a 25% increase in rear wheel torque. As for tuner stuff, click the link in my sig...you'll find all you need there. __________________ MWWarlord 1995 Mustang convertible check out my garage for pics and a complete list of mods. http://www.tricktuners.com

June 2nd, 2008, 01:28 AM	#15
DeMello Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 3,947 iTrader: 1 reviews	Forums at Modded Mustangs - View Profile: Jess@RE __________________ Just Another Bolt on GT [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/54f5ua.jpg[/IMG] Stock Longblock - 287/276 Low 12s NA! 10s on the spray?

June 1st, 2008, 08:32 PM	#3
AMR91 Regular 2000 Mustang Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 87 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thank you for clearing up some of my questions...BTW I did search this stuff before I asked. I just needed a few specific questions answered.

June 1st, 2008, 08:40 PM	#5
mooses Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 391 iTrader: 0 reviews	I have a 25% UDP and if I'm sitting at idle with my lights and wipers on, the lights will be just a tad dimmer than normal. If you are driving with rpms any higher than idle, this won't be a problem unless you are running a large sound system. You will love 4.10s if you decide to go down that route. When I had my auto + 4.10s, it definitely woke the car up more than all the mods I had done combined. You might notice a slight loss in mpg for city driving, but you will definitely lose mpg on pure highway trips. I lost around 4-5 mpg highway.

June 1st, 2008, 10:07 PM	#8
AMR91 Regular 2000 Mustang Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 87 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok thanks

June 1st, 2008, 11:37 PM	#9
AMR91 Regular 2000 Mustang Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 87 iTrader: 0 reviews	Does a 2000 v6 Mustang have a 7.5 rear end, not and 8.8 right? If so will these work? eBay Motors: Ford Mustang Racing 4.10 7.5" Gear Set V6 3.8 (item 280230742602 end time Jun-02-08 20:43:30 PDT)

June 2nd, 2008, 12:58 AM	#11
AMR91 Regular 2000 Mustang Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 87 iTrader: 0 reviews	Alright. Do you think those gears are good or should I be looking at other gears?

June 2nd, 2008, 01:38 AM	#18
MWWarlord Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang convertible Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,409 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think so...there is a gear ratio / torque calculator in a sticky in this section. Put in your info...you can see exactly what gains you'll see. __________________ MWWarlord 1995 Mustang convertible check out my garage for pics and a complete list of mods. http://www.tricktuners.com

June 2nd, 2008, 01:40 AM	#19
DeMello Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 3,947 iTrader: 1 reviews	you know the title so i can search for it by any chance? i typed gear ratio / torque calculator and this thread is all that came up __________________ Just Another Bolt on GT [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/54f5ua.jpg[/IMG] Stock Longblock - 287/276 Low 12s NA! 10s on the spray?

June 2nd, 2008, 01:43 AM	#20
DeMello Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 3,947 iTrader: 1 reviews	this is all i coudl find...but im goign to bed lol http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-formulas.html __________________ Just Another Bolt on GT [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/54f5ua.jpg[/IMG] Stock Longblock - 287/276 Low 12s NA! 10s on the spray?

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