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Discussing 5.0 in V6 in the V6 Mustangs Forum. I own a 3.8l 2000 mustang. Its a five speed manual. I want to put ... Modded Mustangs is the premier Ford Mustang Forum on the internet. We discuss all aspects of the Ford Mustang on the forum. Registered Users do not see the above ads. Please Register - It's Free! |
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5.0 in V6
I own a 3.8l 2000 mustang. Its a five speed manual. I want to put a 5.0 in it. Will the 5.0 hook up to the v6 five speed manual transmission? th3e 5.0 is a roller cam engine. I really need to knwo cause that is debating weather or not i will be getting a v8 or not in my mustang. Thank you.
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do you know what year that 5.0 came out of
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The 3.8 and the 5.0 share the same bolt pattern where the bellhousing hooks up.
I know this because I have a flywheel, bellhousing, transmission and clutch from a 5.0 in my 98 3.8. As far as I know, the pattern stayed the same for the split port as did the single port. |
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but the thing is can the v6 trani handle a 5.0
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The aod cannot. those trannies are very weak- which is why ford upgraded to the 4r70w in the later yrs.
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i would get a whole new trani instead of hopeing it would fit or if it would hold up the 5.0 power.....im just trying to save you some heart ache......i can see it now if you put that v6 trany in...you go to punch it and the trany fails and your out a trany...then youll have to take the motor back out and swap the tranys when you could have spent the extra money to get you a new trany
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can you get the 5.0 and the tranny?? or is this a crate engine your looking at
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im thinking about thisi too i already posted but would i be able to bolt a 5.0 motor and 5spd trans right into the 2000 mustang engine bay.
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well the thing is if you get a 5.0 your running it threw the weaker 7.5 rear end... to get a scrapped rear end and install it your self might be worth it ... but then again its all your call... if your car has some crazy sentimental value then go for it IMO sell your car in the paper and buy a GT...
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I'm not sure the AOD is all that weak.
The fox body 5.0s ran an AOD. Also, my 89 Thunderbird Supercoupe also has an AOD. My 92 F-150 with a 5.8L uses an A4OD. Is the A4OD similar? |
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So, it looks like there are two main improvements.
1)The upgraded overdrive band. 2)The enhanced lockup feature. Sudden lockup will kill transmission quickly. My old AODE lasted only 7k miles with a 3000rpm stall. By installing that, I pretty much eliminated the upgrade. It looks like the best bet is to install an AODE or 4R70W with a stock converter, unless you upgrade the tranny as well.
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4r70w can withstand 700ft./lbs tq., that is what the 70 stands for.
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The AODE and the 4R70W are essentially the same except for this:
1)Gear ratios, the 4R70W has the wide ratio gears whereas the AOD-E doesn't. 4R70W ratios are: (1st) 2.84, (2nd) 1.55, (3rd) 1.00, (OD) .7 AODE ratios are: (1st) 2.40, (2nd) 1.40, (3rd) 1.00, (OD) .67 2)The 4R70W has a larger diameter slip yoke on the driveshaft. 3)The 4R70W has a different extension housing. 4)The 4R70W uses better output shaft material. My car failed the 1-2 band, which is the same for both transmissions. And, I know I'm not putting out over 700ft-lbs of torque. The sudden impact from the stall converter is much higher due to the sudden change in kinetic energy of the converter. They probably rated the tranny under a load applied slowly.
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