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Old November 23rd, 2005, 03:39 PM   #1
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anybody home?


i havent been here in a little bit, and the v6 forum has nothing unread in it!!

where are all the 6ers?

anyway, just wanted to mention what i think im going to buy soon and get some confirmations taht it is in fact stuff i should be doing now.

anyway, i know i was saying i want heads and cam and what not, but im still saving for that stuff.

for now i think i want to get the tunable induction full length intake, xcalibrator 2 (from stangsuspension, i like the guy ive dealt with there - and it comes with 2 tunes. one for 87 and one for 91/93)

and maybe ill get an underdrive p. for the hell of it.

anyway what do you guys think? and what do you think itll give me.
 
Old November 23rd, 2005, 03:56 PM   #2
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maybe 20hp if you do the cai, pullies, and tune?
 
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thats all? i thought it would be a little more (not that much more, but slightly)

there is a dynosheet (though i dont konw where it came from) on the tunable induction website that shows (read: claims) 12.5 rwhp...

and i figured ( but i could very well be completely wrong) the pully + tuner together would be 15-20 (rough top of the head numbers)? or am i being way optimistic here....
 
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i wouldnt think you would get that much out of it, it sounds a little high,

but then again i dont know too much about 6'ers
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 04:14 PM   #5
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sometimes it is hard to believe the mfg's dynosheets... there are so many variables that can be changed in the enviroment... plus the whole mustang dyno vs. dynojet type of topic regarding the readings of differant dynomometers.
 
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Originally Posted by 99mustang232
sometimes it is hard to believe the mfg's dynosheets... there are so many variables that can be changed in the enviroment... plus the whole mustang dyno vs. dynojet type of topic regarding the readings of differant dynomometers.
hmm, i guess ill take all the info i have with a grain of salt then.

maybe ill just assume 20, and be happy if its higher :wink
 
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just go search on v6power.net or 3.8mustang.com im sure someone at either site has the same setup, and might have run theirs on a dyno?
 
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so noone here has any actual experience with these things?
 
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that particular brand, no... but I do have a MAC fenderwell CAI on mine and it is tuned via SCT flip-chip for 87 and 93 octane? But I have never run it on the dyno...
 
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Originally Posted by 99mustang232
that particular brand, no... but I do have a MAC fenderwell CAI on mine and it is tuned via SCT flip-chip for 87 and 93 octane? But I have never run it on the dyno...
would you be able to guesstimate?... not a big deal if not... im probably gonna get the stuff anyway (maybe not the pulley, but the other 2 at least)
 
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i suggest the sct xcal 2 art. i got mine a couple weeks back and i got it tuned for 93+ octane, no speed limiter, rev limiter at 6krpms, very frim shifts and it is the power tune only with o/d off. with overdrive on, it shifts at 3500 and wont go higher than 4krpms. very fuel economic until you want the power. also, capapbilities for changing the rear gears are built in to the programmer, so i don't need additional tunes for my gear swap. and you can change your ecu for the gears you have...

i got it on sale from mustangtuning for 379.99, the cheapest price (free shipping), and you can get cai's from ebay to densecharger/ tunable induction (cheapest to best). id go with the TI full length though.

i got my crank pulley from rpmoutlet last year. 42% reduction, billit aluminum, like 100 bucks shipped or so, and install took less than an hour.

advertised gains from these products are: CAI- 5rwhp, U/D Pulley- 17rwhp (more like 10 though), and XCal 2- 20+rwhp (dunno about exact numbers, but it pulls hard from 3k-6k roms and shifts back into 4krpms ) the xcal 2 makes the world of difference for the auto tranny. i chirp 2nd gear with the auto on 305 tires and you can feel the pulling all through third. hell, i can be going 30 in low 3rd gear, floor it, drop to 1st gear and chirp through 2nd- endless fun. just keep overdrive on unless you want to spin and chirp at every stop.
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spin and chrip every stop
 
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i can go 2x as far with o/d on than o/d with gas lol. everytime you change something on your car leadfoot syndrome kicks back in
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Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99
i suggest the sct xcal 2 art. i got mine a couple weeks back and i got it tuned for 93+ octane, no speed limiter, rev limiter at 6krpms, very frim shifts and it is the power tune only with o/d off. with overdrive on, it shifts at 3500 and wont go higher than 4krpms. very fuel economic until you want the power. also, capapbilities for changing the rear gears are built in to the programmer, so i don't need additional tunes for my gear swap. and you can change your ecu for the gears you have...

i got it on sale from mustangtuning for 379.99, the cheapest price (free shipping), and you can get cai's from ebay to densecharger/ tunable induction (cheapest to best). id go with the TI full length though.

i got my crank pulley from rpmoutlet last year. 42% reduction, billit aluminum, like 100 bucks shipped or so, and install took less than an hour.

advertised gains from these products are: CAI- 5rwhp, U/D Pulley- 17rwhp (more like 10 though), and XCal 2- 20+rwhp (dunno about exact numbers, but it pulls hard from 3k-6k roms and shifts back into 4krpms ) the xcal 2 makes the world of difference for the auto tranny. i chirp 2nd gear with the auto on 305 tires and you can feel the pulling all through third. hell, i can be going 30 in low 3rd gear, floor it, drop to 1st gear and chirp through 2nd- endless fun. just keep overdrive on unless you want to spin and chirp at every stop.
hey atlantic,
OD on/off makes that much of a difference? i thought that just controled whther or not it would shift into the highest (the overdrive) gear.

right now im looking at getting the tuner from stangsuspension.com, since the last time i ordered a bunch of stuff it came from them, and the service was pretty good. does anyone know where they get the tunes from?

ps. with the gears, in the right temp and road conditions, i spin and chirp anyway
 
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http://www.vmptuning.com/cart/home.php
 
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Originally Posted by 99mustang232
http://www.vmptuning.com/cart/home.php
whats this in context to?
 
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yea art, they tuned it that way at sct. i said i wanted a very aggressive tune and i wanted just one tune for 93 octane. they tuned it aggressive for o/d off, and the "valet tune" is for o/d on. so when o/d is on, it wont go past 3500 rpms. it stopped raining today so i went out for about an hour to kill off some steam.

o/d off is still only the 3 speed, but it is the aggressive part of the tune. that way i save gas when i dont need the power and i dont spin out all the time in the rain. also, it starts out in 2nd gear in the o/d on mode. so i dont spin in the rain anymore
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Originally Posted by artisan00
Originally Posted by 99mustang232
http://www.vmptuning.com/cart/home.php
whats this in context to?
just a sugguestion on somewhere to look at for the xcal2, justin is very famous for his v6 mustang tuning, he sells the xcal2's w/3 custom tunes on his site for 379 also...
 
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Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99
yea art, they tuned it that way at sct. i said i wanted a very aggressive tune and i wanted just one tune for 93 octane. they tuned it aggressive for o/d off, and the "valet tune" is for o/d on. so when o/d is on, it wont go past 3500 rpms. it stopped raining today so i went out for about an hour to kill off some steam.

o/d off is still only the 3 speed, but it is the aggressive part of the tune. that way i save gas when i dont need the power and i dont spin out all the time in the rain. also, it starts out in 2nd gear in the o/d on mode. so i dont spin in the rain anymore
i see, so is that "one" tune? i mean as far as having to connect the xcal to the car and flash it - youre saying both those 'settings' are in the same 'tune file'?
 
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yea, same file. which makes it very convenient. no turning the knob on the fly for the fuel economic tune, just turn on o/d or turn off o/d...
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