Stock Headers

November 9th, 2006, 09:56 PM	#1
JBake Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 85	Stock Headers the stock headers are tubular... so would the $260 BBK Shorty's even be worth it? what would my gain be?

November 9th, 2006, 10:00 PM	#2
chevy_killer Enthusiast 2000 v6 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Winter Haven Florida Posts: 943	stock motors dont come with headers they come with exhaust manifolds....and yes it would be worth getting the shorty headers

November 9th, 2006, 10:23 PM

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Re: Stock Headers

Originally Posted by JBake

the stock headers are tubular...
so would the $260 BBK Shorty's even be worth it?
what would my gain be?

it depends on your mods man.
headers don't really give much of a gain to an n/a car

November 9th, 2006, 10:26 PM	#4
chevy_killer Enthusiast 2000 v6 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Winter Haven Florida Posts: 943	but if its stock then he can feel a difference

November 9th, 2006, 10:51 PM	#5
AtlanticBlue99 The Nice Guy 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UGA Posts: 8,251	exhaust manifolds are another term for headers. generally shorties are not worth the hassle when you can install long tubes and a short midpipe in the same amount of time and get 15-20 more rwhp out of them __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

November 9th, 2006, 10:56 PM	#6
CyberPrey Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 333	Please.. take my word for it.. my first attempt at making my exhaust looking good was short tube headers, x pipe and cat back.... I was able to pick up a set of long tubes, x pipe and cat back from a friend, and when I put on the long tubes, I really noticed a difference.... my favorite part? Even though the cat backs were the same brand and mufflers (MAC) I noticed the car sounded throatier with the long tubes.... Get Long Tubes....

November 9th, 2006, 10:57 PM	#7
chevy_killer Enthusiast 2000 v6 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Winter Haven Florida Posts: 943	no exhaust manifolds are all one peice but the shorty headers have individual tubes which helps it breath a little better

November 9th, 2006, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chevy_killer

no exhaust manifolds are all one peice but the shorty headers have individual tubes which helps it breath a little better

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EXHAUST MANIFOLD

  Related Terms
• Exhaust port
 
 

Definition: The network of passages that gathers the exhaust gases from the various exhaust ports and routes them toward the catalysts and mufflers of the exhaust system. A manifold with free-flowing passages of a carefully designed configuration, called a "header", can improve breathing.

the same thing.

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November 9th, 2006, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99

Originally Posted by chevy_killer

no exhaust manifolds are all one peice but the shorty headers have individual tubes which helps it breath a little better
Code:
EXHAUST MANIFOLD

  Related Terms
• Exhaust port
 
 

Definition: The network of passages that gathers the exhaust gases from the various exhaust ports and routes them toward the catalysts and mufflers of the exhaust system. A manifold with free-flowing passages of a carefully designed configuration, called a "header", can improve breathing.
the same thing.

No AB its not. Headers are three or four pipes welded together with a port plate and collector, and exhaust manifolds are cast as one piece in a mold.

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November 9th, 2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by turp

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99
Originally Posted by chevy_killer

no exhaust manifolds are all one peice but the shorty headers have individual tubes which helps it breath a little better
Code:
EXHAUST MANIFOLD

  Related Terms
• Exhaust port
 
 

Definition: The network of passages that gathers the exhaust gases from the various exhaust ports and routes them toward the catalysts and mufflers of the exhaust system. A manifold with free-flowing passages of a carefully designed configuration, called a "header", can improve breathing.
the same thing.
No AB its not. Headers are three or four pipes welded together with a port plate and collector, and exhaust manifolds are cast as one piece in a mold.

the terms are now used interchangeably as tubular headers or tubular exhaust manifolds. manifolds are cheap and a thing of the past. most autos use cast mani's, but performance cars use "headers" but are called exhaust manifolds from the factory

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November 10th, 2006, 12:05 AM	#11
itschristorres8 SP00LIN V6 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,619	Not that its a big deal, but no v6 comes with headers...their called exhaust manifolds, then the swap to shorty headers, mid length headers or long tube headers __________________ 437rwhp and 402rwtq through a V6 on a stock bottom end

November 10th, 2006, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by itschristorres8

Not that its a big deal, but no v6 comes with headers...their called exhaust manifolds, then the swap to shorty headers, mid length headers or long tube headers

terminally because stock is a cast piece and shorties are general tubular welded design.

shorties over stock cast shorties are a minimal gain, but are a direct bolt on. imo, if you have emissions, this may be the route to go, but otherwise long tubes are the best option

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November 10th, 2006, 12:13 AM	#13
itschristorres8 SP00LIN V6 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,619	they make a short H pipe with a cat on each side...idk if i have emissions but im getting that mid pipe in the future instead of the one with out cats __________________ 437rwhp and 402rwtq through a V6 on a stock bottom end

November 10th, 2006, 12:25 AM

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also the one piece exhaust manifolds. I have heard plenty of people refer to them as log headers.

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November 10th, 2006, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99

Originally Posted by turp
Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99
Originally Posted by chevy_killer

no exhaust manifolds are all one peice but the shorty headers have individual tubes which helps it breath a little better
Code:
EXHAUST MANIFOLD

  Related Terms
• Exhaust port
 
 

Definition: The network of passages that gathers the exhaust gases from the various exhaust ports and routes them toward the catalysts and mufflers of the exhaust system. A manifold with free-flowing passages of a carefully designed configuration, called a "header", can improve breathing.
the same thing.
No AB its not. Headers are three or four pipes welded together with a port plate and collector, and exhaust manifolds are cast as one piece in a mold.
the terms are now used interchangeably as tubular headers or tubular exhaust manifolds. manifolds are cheap and a thing of the past. most autos use cast mani's, but performance cars use "headers" but are called exhaust manifolds from the factory

EXACTLY AB
if the others would reread my statement
i did say tubular...
and since they ARE stock
it is the stock exhaust manifold...

so long tubes are the way to go...
thank you

November 10th, 2006, 02:23 AM

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You can't get LT headers for your car. They don't make them for the 98. The 98 is a year of it's own.

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November 10th, 2006, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cricket

You can't get LT headers for your car. They don't make them for the 98. The 98 is a year of it's own.

i already know that...
haha
but thats all everyone says...
the 96-98 all used a short tube header...
mac and bbk are the only real choices

November 10th, 2006, 02:44 AM

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Yea, but they make long tube headers for the 94-97 v6. The only company that I know of that makes headers for the 98 is JBA.

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November 10th, 2006, 08:12 AM	#19
AtlanticBlue99 The Nice Guy 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UGA Posts: 8,251	You can put lob tubes on the 98, you just have to do something with the K member to make them fit. Several guys at V6Power have done this... __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

November 10th, 2006, 09:40 AM	#20
Roadhawg Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 429	Funny seems the exhaust manifolds that came stock from the factory on my 1995 V6 Mustang, look exactly like shorty headers to me............. __________________ 2003 Mustang Mach1 1995 Thunderbird LX 4.6; 4R70W w/Jmod, 8.8 3.27 Tracloc 1995 Mustang 4.2; MPX Supercharger/25%OD, 4R70W w/Jmod, 8.8 3.73 Tracloc (343rwhp/420rwtq)