[ricerraper33]

no idea man i havent got it dynoed but i will be soon.

[sixxxshoooter]

OK. Cool. I am waiting for my tuner still but when it gets here I am going to take the car to the Dyno to get some numbers. I am hoping to get atleastt 260 at the wheels.

I just put my UDP on. Anyone who says that there isnt a differents.....My ass. Could deffinitely feel the difference especially in the midrange area. As far as what was freed up, I dont know. But you can feel it for sure. No lag in between gears.

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by ricerraper33 i ordered my tuner and it got here less than a week and no problems exept the 2 step wasent working and i called him and within an hour he sent me a tune to upload and everything is fine i dunno maybe i got lucky but he seemed good with me?

2step on the xcal2 doesnt hold past 3000 for most
mine doesnt either
the computer isnt capable of holding and performing a stall like that

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by sixxxshoooter OK. Cool. I am waiting for my tuner still but when it gets here I am going to take the car to the Dyno to get some numbers. I am hoping to get atleastt 260 at the wheels. I just put my UDP on. Anyone who says that there isnt a differents.....My ass. Could deffinitely feel the difference especially in the midrange area. As far as what was freed up, I dont know. But you can feel it for sure. No lag in between gears.

with what mods?
bolt ons for sure wont do it
and maybe a 75shot tuned will takeyou there with a nice list of bolt ons,

[sixxxshoooter]

I have an CAI, Cat back duals, UDP, and a 75 shot of Zex. I know I wont see those numbers with just the boltons. LOL. With a really good tune I think I can get there. What do you think?

[ricerraper33]

Originally Posted by itschristorres8 2step on the xcal2 doesnt hold past 3000 for most mine doesnt either the computer isnt capable of holding and performing a stall like that

what do u mean wont hold past 3000? i have mine set at 3000 and it seems to do alright havent tested it at the track yet..

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by ricerraper33 what do u mean wont hold past 3000? i have mine set at 3000 and it seems to do alright havent tested it at the track yet..

as i said 3000 and as i said again MOST

ive seen some hit 3500 on the 2 step with there xcal2
but a lot of people cant get it to work much PAST 3000 rpms

ive gotten it to work at 3000 rpms but 3000 rpms for me is not enough i'll bog.

anything past that hasnt worked for me

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by sixxxshoooter I have an CAI, Cat back duals, UDP, and a 75 shot of Zex. I know I wont see those numbers with just the boltons. LOL. With a really good tune I think I can get there. What do you think?

auto or manual?
auto i doubt it
manual you might have 165rwhp and 175tops tuned and on 93
a 75shot will probably not give you 75rwhp from a 6. you'll 000see alot more torque though
240rwhp would be a good GOAL
230-245rwhp would be the range i'd say.
250rwhp would be good


your torque will be well over 75rwtq though. closer to 100rwtq, but then it'll slowly dwindle down

[sixxxshoooter]

Its an Auto. 230 - 245 seems low. There are a couple guys here who make around 260 or so with a similar combination. But I guess it all depends on the car. I know in every bunch there a couple freak motors that will produce a little more then normal. I guess there is only one way to find out. Should have her on the Dyno in a within a week. That is ofcourse if my Tuner ever comes in.

Heres another interesting question. With this combination, how would I stand up against SRT-4 Neons, GTI's and wrx's (non-STI)?

[ricerraper33]

Originally Posted by itschristorres8 as i said 3000 and as i said again MOST ive seen some hit 3500 on the 2 step with there xcal2 but a lot of people cant get it to work much PAST 3000 rpms ive gotten it to work at 3000 rpms but 3000 rpms for me is not enough i'll bog. anything past that hasnt worked for me

o well i havent tryed it not intetion to try it i think my car will bog like crazy?? but ill c if it works for me?

[GreenFaleen]

well as a note I have 167whp 169wtq in my scion and with my 100 shot it made 258whp and 309wtq

so with a 75 shot dont expect much over 240 and you could take all the cars you listed with a 75 shot

[sixxxshoooter]

Well I should be higher then 167hp right now. Thats what our motors put down completely stock. With the current mods, tune and 75shot...I dont see why not.

GreenFaleen-
Your in Raleigh...How often do you hit the track? Do you go to Peidmont? I am in Gboro.

[GreenFaleen]

Originally Posted by sixxxshoooter Well I should be higher then 167hp right now. Thats what our motors put down completely stock. With the current mods, tune and 75shot...I dont see why not. GreenFaleen- Your in Raleigh...How often do you hit the track? Do you go to Peidmont? I am in Gboro.

well in an auto with your mods you probably right at about 165-170 whp my auto stock saw like 158whp it was a 2000

and I normally go to fayettville or rockingham at least once a month if i have the cash. ive been to piedmont but the track blows i spin through third spraying a 50 shot thats where i ran my 8.9 though

[sixxxshoooter]

Yea that place does blow. I am use to 1/4 mile at Maryland International raceway in Budds Creek Md. thats where I am from. This track sucks. I havnt made it to Rockingham yet. Working on it.

OK. Now I just got an email saying my tuner is up for tunning in a couple days....it will be shipped by next Wed at the latest....Are you F'ing kidding me. it should not take 2 weeks for 3 canned tunes. Never ordering there again.

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by sixxxshoooter Well I should be higher then 167hp right now. Thats what our motors put down completely stock. With the current mods, tune and 75shot...I dont see why not. GreenFaleen- Your in Raleigh...How often do you hit the track? Do you go to Peidmont? I am in Gboro.

no way dude with an auto stock 99-04s put out 15X's with your mods you lucky if you at 160rwhp
a guy on this site and many others with 5speeds average about 165rwhp with intake and exhaust
punypony made these numbers with FULL bolt ons and 75shot
263/340 on the bottle, 185/215 N/A
note this is manual with aluminum flywheel and driveshaft

an auto alone with full bolt ons and spray will make at least about 13rwhp less avg

plus he has, long tube headers, catless midpipe, pulley
if you were to make75rwhp on the shot 235 as i said would probably be your numbers tuned
240

[ricerraper33]

what do u thin mine will make on bottle?

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by ricerraper33 what do u thin mine will make on bottle?

manual with those mods closer to punypony's numbers like 250ish

[sixxxshoooter]

Ok...I can dig that. So tell me why it is that a Manual will make 13 or so more HP then an auto with the same mods. That doesnt make since to me. But I am still learning so I am all ears.

[GreenFaleen]

Yeah MIR is an awesome track rockingham is pretty nice though, and the auto makes less case it steal a good bit more power than a manual just because of all the autoate stuff it has

[itschristorres8]

automatic tranny's have more parastatic loss through the tranny then a manual
an est avg is manuals with aluminum flywheel and driveshaft will avg about 10-15% lost. 15 being kinda high
autos are about 20%+
ive seen/heard some with 30% loss

put it like this stock your MOTOR makes 190. but you put out 150-155rwhp
thats 40hp lost
190x.20=38....
190-38=152rwhp
.20 is 20%
so these cars lose about 20% through an auto tranny


190x.15=28/29 190-28=162
thats about the average dyno pull a manual will make 15% loss STOCK
aluminum drive shaft and flywheel will take away from that being 10-15%