Windstar vs cai

Ticket-Me-Yellow · August 14th, 2008, 02:26 AM

ok so I have a CAI with a 65mm tb and a tb spacer along with a bbk CAI. Would be even worth it swapping it out for a windstar intake? Or not worth it? Also if I got the windstar intake could I put the spacer and the bigger tb on there?

itschristorres8 · August 14th, 2008, 02:32 AM

if you get the kit it comes with a cold air intake anyway
you can use the throttle body and spacer with the windstar

JMack · August 14th, 2008, 06:56 AM

hate to threadjack, but I have a question about the Windsar...

What years are the Windstar Mani's off of. I've worked on a couple, and I don't remember seeing one like that... Is it off of the 3.8 L or the 3 L, or what? Most of the ones that I have seen have the runners over the top, and not thru the middle...

v6_armyguy · August 14th, 2008, 07:10 AM

of the 96-98 windstar. i got one of a 97, but i still have to modify it to work.

JMack · August 14th, 2008, 07:18 AM

what does all that entail? I am very interested in this...

Do you have pictures that you could E-mail me?

BTW - what's your MOS, I did 4 years in the Air Force, and now I work for Defense Logistics Agency. And thanks for serving our country!

v6_armyguy · August 14th, 2008, 07:37 AM

I am a 25u Signal Support Systems Sppecialists. "Commo". I am at camp liberty right now, bagdad airport. i work with alot of ariforce here. i dont have any pics right now, i was working on it befor i deployed its in storage now.
But you have to fill in the IAC port on the top and relocate it. have to make a bracket for the coil and throtle cables to bolt on to. extend the throtle body conections were the cables hook to. either delete the EGR or make a new bracket.
You can buy a pre fabed kit. but i like to do it myslef, its alot of work.
but seems like you would like that.

JMack · August 14th, 2008, 08:29 AM

I used to install Avionics in aircraft that were never designed to hold what we put in... I think I can handle this...

I think that I may do this... Seems like fun...

Couldn't the cables be routed just above the Mani and attatched to the TB in the original location, just with a little bit of bracket up where the IAC is removed? That way, the IAW could be filled and blocked with a gasketed bracket.

Also, what is the fitting just behind the IAC? What do you do with that?

Ticket-Me-Yellow · August 14th, 2008, 09:21 AM

alright well that got me no where. I no that is comes with the intake I'm just saying pretty much if I alright have a CAI would it be worth it to swith it out for the windstar intake? How much of a difference would it be?

whitemustang02 · August 14th, 2008, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Ticket-Me-Yellow

alright well that got me no where. I no that is comes with the intake I'm just saying pretty much if I alright have a CAI would it be worth it to swith it out for the windstar intake? How much of a difference would it be?

it most definitely would be worth it, a windstar intake will get you about 10rwhp gain, and the cai gave you maybe 1.

JMack · August 14th, 2008, 11:14 AM

Huck the CAI and get the Windstar intake.

ByPopularDemand · August 14th, 2008, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Ticket-Me-Yellow

ok so I have a CAI with a 65mm tb and a tb spacer along with a bbk CAI. Would be even worth it swapping it out for a windstar intake? Or not worth it? Also if I got the windstar intake could I put the spacer and the bigger tb on there?

Well the windstar shows proven gains, and comes with its own cai. So you wont lose the 5hp from the cai. The tb spacer is doin nothing for you and since your intake manifold isnt ported to match the bigger tb, its not helping either. So yes swap it out

mooses · August 14th, 2008, 05:36 PM

Sell the tb because it does nothing for you unless you are running ported intakes. The tb spacer is a damn paperweight. Try to find another idiot to buy it.

MustanG_guy17 · August 14th, 2008, 11:16 PM

buy a tuner.. and a custom tune and gain 15rwhp...

Avaric3 · August 15th, 2008, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by MustanG_guy17

buy a tuner.. and a custom tune and gain 15rwhp...

even wit a 93 octane tune youre not gonna gain 15rwhp. i just did the windstar upper from VAP Auto and i love it, you def feel a difference thru all rpms especially up top

Ticket-Me-Yellow · August 16th, 2008, 09:01 PM

cool. Ok say i got an intake spacer would that worth with it?

August 14th, 2008, 02:26 AM	#1
Ticket-Me-Yellow Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang V6 14.89@93 mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 1,187 iTrader: 3 reviews	Windstar vs cai ok so I have a CAI with a 65mm tb and a tb spacer along with a bbk CAI. Would be even worth it swapping it out for a windstar intake? Or not worth it? Also if I got the windstar intake could I put the spacer and the bigger tb on there?

August 14th, 2008, 02:32 AM	#2
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	if you get the kit it comes with a cold air intake anyway you can use the throttle body and spacer with the windstar __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

August 14th, 2008, 07:10 AM	#4
v6_armyguy Regular 2001 Mustang, 4v 5.0l 378rwhp Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Fort Hood TX Posts: 146 iTrader: 0 reviews	of the 96-98 windstar. i got one of a 97, but i still have to modify it to work. __________________ MILITARY CREW USArmy/SGT

August 14th, 2008, 07:37 AM	#6
v6_armyguy Regular 2001 Mustang, 4v 5.0l 378rwhp Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Fort Hood TX Posts: 146 iTrader: 0 reviews	I am a 25u Signal Support Systems Sppecialists. "Commo". I am at camp liberty right now, bagdad airport. i work with alot of ariforce here. i dont have any pics right now, i was working on it befor i deployed its in storage now. But you have to fill in the IAC port on the top and relocate it. have to make a bracket for the coil and throtle cables to bolt on to. extend the throtle body conections were the cables hook to. either delete the EGR or make a new bracket. You can buy a pre fabed kit. but i like to do it myslef, its alot of work. but seems like you would like that. __________________ MILITARY CREW USArmy/SGT

August 14th, 2008, 11:16 PM	#13
MustanG_guy17 Hardcore Enthusiast 2007 Mustang GT/CS Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Milton,Florida Posts: 1,967 iTrader: 0 reviews	buy a tuner.. and a custom tune and gain 15rwhp... __________________ 2007 Mustang GT/CS 5spd: Flowmaster hushpower axle back,O/R X pipe,JLT CAI,93 Bama tune..laser interceptor dual jammers, Escort Redline RD,Laser Veil G4. MAVERICKS!!!!!!!!!! BABYYYY.. DALLAS COWBOYS

August 14th, 2008, 06:56 AM	#3
JMack Regular 2000 V-6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 107 iTrader: 0 reviews	hate to threadjack, but I have a question about the Windsar... What years are the Windstar Mani's off of. I've worked on a couple, and I don't remember seeing one like that... Is it off of the 3.8 L or the 3 L, or what? Most of the ones that I have seen have the runners over the top, and not thru the middle...

August 14th, 2008, 07:18 AM	#5
JMack Regular 2000 V-6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 107 iTrader: 0 reviews	what does all that entail? I am very interested in this... Do you have pictures that you could E-mail me? BTW - what's your MOS, I did 4 years in the Air Force, and now I work for Defense Logistics Agency. And thanks for serving our country!

August 14th, 2008, 08:29 AM	#7
JMack Regular 2000 V-6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 107 iTrader: 0 reviews	I used to install Avionics in aircraft that were never designed to hold what we put in... I think I can handle this... I think that I may do this... Seems like fun... Couldn't the cables be routed just above the Mani and attatched to the TB in the original location, just with a little bit of bracket up where the IAC is removed? That way, the IAW could be filled and blocked with a gasketed bracket. Also, what is the fitting just behind the IAC? What do you do with that?

August 14th, 2008, 09:21 AM	#8
Ticket-Me-Yellow Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang V6 14.89@93 mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 1,187 iTrader: 3 reviews	alright well that got me no where. I no that is comes with the intake I'm just saying pretty much if I alright have a CAI would it be worth it to swith it out for the windstar intake? How much of a difference would it be?

August 14th, 2008, 11:14 AM	#10
JMack Regular 2000 V-6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 107 iTrader: 0 reviews	Huck the CAI and get the Windstar intake.

August 14th, 2008, 05:36 PM	#12
mooses Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 391 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sell the tb because it does nothing for you unless you are running ported intakes. The tb spacer is a damn paperweight. Try to find another idiot to buy it.

August 16th, 2008, 09:01 PM	#15
Ticket-Me-Yellow Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang V6 14.89@93 mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hawthorn Woods, IL Posts: 1,187 iTrader: 3 reviews	cool. Ok say i got an intake spacer would that worth with it?

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