V10 Mustang

Stonedaily · August 16th, 2008, 11:03 AM

Hey Guys, and Gals

Does anyone have information on V6 to V10 SC swap. U see i found this great deal on a Supercharged V10 from F-150 lightning, but modded. it's a 5.4L V10 with an Auto transmission producing 500hp to the wheels (tested according to the company that is selling it). They are also supplying the ECU, TCU, and everything in between.

My questions are:
- Is this possible?
- Will i have enough space in to fit that big V10?
- If it's possible, what do you recommend for drive shaft? should i get one from an F-150 lightning maybe, but if i do will it fit in my 2004 sixer?

i also stumbled on these videos of a V10 mustang engineered by ford, it's a test mule that will never see the light and thta what got me inspired:

YouTube - Mustang v10 mule

and also this article in Motor Trend, about the same car:
Ford Mustang Boss 350 V-10 - Exclusive Road Test - Motor Trend

Question, Questions, Questions...........

Stonedaily · August 16th, 2008, 11:05 AM

sorry, crappy vedio, this is the right one:

YouTube - Mustang V10 Mule

94v6blkndred · August 16th, 2008, 11:10 AM

meh. seems like alot for a high 11's ride but if you got the skill the cash the time and the ambition do it...if they can get an LS1 in a civic i think you can do this ha

Stonedaily · August 16th, 2008, 11:30 AM

well..... on cash i am fine....kinda.....hopefully
time, i really don't have much of. U see i am actually in China right now. yep, China. i am working here, but i have the sixer in L.A. i am coming back for 15 days, and that's all the time i have.

about the LS1 in civics, are you sure about that. I've seen LS1 in a Z280, which is bad ass, but never in a civic. anyway, i hope someone will give me some pointers on this project.

I actually wanted to put a 2jz-gte at the beginning , but i read about it, and it's almost impossible to do as a weekend project. and it will cost almost 10K. so i saw this video and said, hmmmm, is it possible??????

94v6blkndred · August 16th, 2008, 11:34 AM

Ls1 Civic...

Stonedaily · August 16th, 2008, 12:03 PM

Dude, you were right, if a civic can fit a big V8 like LS1 then my stang can definitely fit the V10. isn't that the engine from Z06?

Ninjawafers! · August 16th, 2008, 12:34 PM

i have seen photos of a ford v10 as well as a viper v10 in mustangs, so yes it is doable. it would take a lot of custom work to be done, prolly a custom drive shaft, and you would have to completely redo the mustang suspension, brakes, and what not. not to mention a hell of a dyno tune. the ecu from the lightning most prolly wont work... and anyways... when did v10's come in lightnings? im not too familiar with them but last i heard they had the cobra engine in them, not v10s

1FUN4RD · August 16th, 2008, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Stonedaily

sorry, crappy vedio, this is the right one:
YouTube - Mustang V10 Mule

Now all it needs is a set of slicks & a good driver.

Dansby · August 16th, 2008, 02:22 PM

Ya...coastie, I'm with you. Lightnings didn't come with v10s...

Stonedaily · August 16th, 2008, 04:18 PM

sorry...... I misread, it's V8 5.4L SC, modded to 500HP. why wouldn't the ECU from the lightning work?

Ninjawafers! · August 16th, 2008, 04:21 PM

its made to work with the lightning, not the mustang. you would need a dyno tune.. youd get better results with the dyno anyways.

Stonedaily · August 16th, 2008, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by 3.8Coastie

its made to work with the lightning, not the mustang. you would need a dyno tune.. youd get better results with the dyno anyways.

Hold on, but the engine is lightning, so why wouldn't it work? and if it doesnt, whats the solution?

Ninjawafers! · August 16th, 2008, 04:35 PM

different electronics in the stang and the lightining. i have a 3.8 v6. the thunderbird supercoupe has a 3.8 v6 supercharged. same engine. i have the supercharger from the supercoupe that im going to put on my mustang. i cannot use the ecu from the thunderbird, even though itll be same engine (built slightly different) and the supercharger. just because its the same engine does not mean the ecu will work

the solution is as soon as the engine is installed you have it towed to a dyno shop and have them dyno tune it, or have the dyno shop send you a tune for an x-cal2/3/livewire then drive it to the dyno shop so they can tune it further. all in all, you will have to take it to the dyno shop to get it to run right

ByPopularDemand · August 16th, 2008, 05:37 PM

One of the guys locally has a procharged 5.4 sitting in what used to be a 2v GT so yeah itll fit and can be done

94v6blkndred · August 16th, 2008, 05:46 PM

i believe the tritons had the v-10 in them that may be what your thinking of...idk how i didnt catch that before..

itschristorres8 · August 17th, 2008, 12:59 AM

its been done
its not worth it
it takes a lot of customizing
lets put it this way. all 6second and record breaking cars are v8s
if they wanted to go faster im sure they would have customize the piss out a of a v10

6ER THEN I 8ER! · August 17th, 2008, 02:11 AM

Dang u 94v6blkndred...u beat me to my own thread lol...there is a vid on this site of that car, but i cant find it on youtube to post...does any1 remember the thread on that vid?

94v6blkndred · August 17th, 2008, 12:17 PM

hahaha my bad

ESG-642T · August 17th, 2008, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by 3.8Coastie

i have seen photos of a ford v10 as well as a viper v10 in mustangs, so yes it is doable. it would take a lot of custom work to be done, prolly a custom drive shaft, and you would have to completely redo the mustang suspension, brakes, and what not. not to mention a hell of a dyno tune. the ecu from the lightning most prolly wont work... and anyways... when did v10's come in lightnings? im not too familiar with them but last i heard they had the cobra engine in them, not v10s

Lightnings had cobra engines? Since when?

Ninjawafers! · August 17th, 2008, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by SSStang

Lightnings had cobra engines? Since when?

like i said im not a lightning person.. dont know much about em. i always thought they had the cobra engine in them. if not then i was wrong. so sue me

August 16th, 2008, 11:10 AM	#3
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,552 iTrader: 0 reviews	meh. seems like alot for a high 11's ride but if you got the skill the cash the time and the ambition do it...if they can get an LS1 in a civic i think you can do this ha __________________ 94v6.CAI,Exhaust,3:73s-needs rear end rebuild 02GT/Saleen.built motor,62mm turbo 412hp/446tq @10psi,stock TB and intake Last edited by 94v6blkndred; August 16th, 2008 at 11:13 AM.

August 16th, 2008, 11:30 AM	#4
Stonedaily Newbie 04 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Long Beach Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 reviews	LOL.... LS1 in a CIVIC well..... on cash i am fine....kinda.....hopefully time, i really don't have much of. U see i am actually in China right now. yep, China. i am working here, but i have the sixer in L.A. i am coming back for 15 days, and that's all the time i have. about the LS1 in civics, are you sure about that. I've seen LS1 in a Z280, which is bad ass, but never in a civic. anyway, i hope someone will give me some pointers on this project. I actually wanted to put a 2jz-gte at the beginning , but i read about it, and it's almost impossible to do as a weekend project. and it will cost almost 10K. so i saw this video and said, hmmmm, is it possible??????

August 16th, 2008, 11:34 AM	#5
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,552 iTrader: 0 reviews	Ls1 Civic... __________________ 94v6.CAI,Exhaust,3:73s-needs rear end rebuild 02GT/Saleen.built motor,62mm turbo 412hp/446tq @10psi,stock TB and intake

August 16th, 2008, 12:03 PM	#6
Stonedaily Newbie 04 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Long Beach Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 reviews	WOW Dude, you were right, if a civic can fit a big V8 like LS1 then my stang can definitely fit the V10. isn't that the engine from Z06?

August 16th, 2008, 12:34 PM	#7
Ninjawafers! muneris pro ego 97 5.0 Exploder AWD snow has nuthin on me Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kodiak, AK Posts: 7,412 iTrader: 1 reviews	i have seen photos of a ford v10 as well as a viper v10 in mustangs, so yes it is doable. it would take a lot of custom work to be done, prolly a custom drive shaft, and you would have to completely redo the mustang suspension, brakes, and what not. not to mention a hell of a dyno tune. the ecu from the lightning most prolly wont work... and anyways... when did v10's come in lightnings? im not too familiar with them but last i heard they had the cobra engine in them, not v10s __________________ Buy my M90 Kit and my Gears and T-Loc! MM ZDC - Alaska Base Commander MM+ Cleavage Club #24 MM Cares Crew / Military Crew M2C2 President / USCG - OS2

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LOL.... LS1 in a CIVIC

WOW

My Bad

August 16th, 2008, 02:22 PM	#9
Dansby Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 2,313 iTrader: 1 reviews	Ya...coastie, I'm with you. Lightnings didn't come with v10s...

August 16th, 2008, 04:18 PM	#10
Stonedaily Newbie 04 Mustang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Long Beach Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 reviews	My Bad sorry...... I misread, it's V8 5.4L SC, modded to 500HP. why wouldn't the ECU from the lightning work?

August 16th, 2008, 04:21 PM	#11
Ninjawafers! muneris pro ego 97 5.0 Exploder AWD snow has nuthin on me Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kodiak, AK Posts: 7,412 iTrader: 1 reviews	its made to work with the lightning, not the mustang. you would need a dyno tune.. youd get better results with the dyno anyways. __________________ Buy my M90 Kit and my Gears and T-Loc! MM ZDC - Alaska Base Commander MM+ Cleavage Club #24 MM Cares Crew / Military Crew M2C2 President / USCG - OS2

August 16th, 2008, 04:35 PM	#13
Ninjawafers! muneris pro ego 97 5.0 Exploder AWD snow has nuthin on me Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kodiak, AK Posts: 7,412 iTrader: 1 reviews	different electronics in the stang and the lightining. i have a 3.8 v6. the thunderbird supercoupe has a 3.8 v6 supercharged. same engine. i have the supercharger from the supercoupe that im going to put on my mustang. i cannot use the ecu from the thunderbird, even though itll be same engine (built slightly different) and the supercharger. just because its the same engine does not mean the ecu will work the solution is as soon as the engine is installed you have it towed to a dyno shop and have them dyno tune it, or have the dyno shop send you a tune for an x-cal2/3/livewire then drive it to the dyno shop so they can tune it further. all in all, you will have to take it to the dyno shop to get it to run right __________________ Buy my M90 Kit and my Gears and T-Loc! MM ZDC - Alaska Base Commander MM+ Cleavage Club #24 MM Cares Crew / Military Crew M2C2 President / USCG - OS2 Last edited by Ninjawafers!; August 16th, 2008 at 04:37 PM.

August 16th, 2008, 05:37 PM	#14
ByPopularDemand Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,670 iTrader: 0 reviews	One of the guys locally has a procharged 5.4 sitting in what used to be a 2v GT so yeah itll fit and can be done __________________ 2000 V6 vert Mac LT headers, Mac O/R H-pipe, Mac CAI, ASP 25% underdrive pulley(r.i.p), SCT tune, 8.8 rear and 4.10 gears.

August 16th, 2008, 05:46 PM	#15
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,552 iTrader: 0 reviews	i believe the tritons had the v-10 in them that may be what your thinking of...idk how i didnt catch that before.. __________________ 94v6.CAI,Exhaust,3:73s-needs rear end rebuild 02GT/Saleen.built motor,62mm turbo 412hp/446tq @10psi,stock TB and intake

August 17th, 2008, 12:59 AM	#16
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,859 iTrader: 2 reviews	its been done its not worth it it takes a lot of customizing lets put it this way. all 6second and record breaking cars are v8s if they wanted to go faster im sure they would have customize the piss out a of a v10 __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

August 17th, 2008, 02:11 AM	#17
6ER THEN I 8ER! Premium Member 3.9L V6 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Portland, TN Posts: 20,970 iTrader: 1 reviews	Dang u 94v6blkndred...u beat me to my own thread lol...there is a vid on this site of that car, but i cant find it on youtube to post...does any1 remember the thread on that vid? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] 6k HIDs - Rear Sway Bar - Mac Prochamber - Goodridge Gstop SS Lines - Lots of Visual Fun - Go Fast Mods (no point in buying...it's a v6) Want to see your car as art...ask me how

August 17th, 2008, 12:17 PM	#18
94v6blkndred Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Turboed Saleen Clone faster than my v6 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,552 iTrader: 0 reviews	hahaha my bad __________________ 94v6.CAI,Exhaust,3:73s-needs rear end rebuild 02GT/Saleen.built motor,62mm turbo 412hp/446tq @10psi,stock TB and intake

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