[SilverSixxer]

when i got my car i didnt have any choises with it, it had to be a v6 auto, i could pick convertible or coupe. i coudnt chose anything else engine wise bc my mom was paying insurance so i was like ok whatever i just wanted my stang... any way, i am tired of getting made fun of for having an automatic mustang! i get shit all the time about it, so my brother has a tranny ( 5 speed of coarse ) out of a 88 i beleive GT. couple questions...

1.) how hard is a tranny swap?
2.) 88 bolt on to a 00 easy?
3.) interior work hard ( installying the clutch and shift boot/nob

thanks!!!!


btw, i know some will say, " its a v6 and something about a gt tranny", i dontknow if that matters at all but we are putting a v8 in it when we do the swap, its going to be all done at once,

any help would be greatful!! thanks!!!!!!!

[99v6stang]

I HAVE NEVER DONE A TRANNY SWAP OR REALLY EVEN LOOKED INTO IT MUCH but i have pulled the tranny multiple times and read up some one tranny swaps.
First i can almost guarantee that tranny will not bolt up to your engine, but you say your getting a v8 ( already a stupid idea as it is a waste of time and money. A supercharger, or selling the car to buy a v8 would be a much smarter move) what v8 are you thinking? The 5.0 out of your brothers car would be a nightmare to install and not in any way worth it, and a newer v8 most likely wouldnt bolt up and still wouldnt be worth it. Im assuming you havent looked into this much because really you should just sell your car and buy the one you want, it would save you tuns of money and hassle.

[96gtstang&V6]

Originally Posted by 99v6stang I HAVE NEVER DONE A TRANNY SWAP OR REALLY EVEN LOOKED INTO IT MUCH but i have pulled the tranny multiple times and read up some one tranny swaps. First i can almost guarantee that tranny will not bolt up to your engine, but you say your getting a v8 ( already a stupid idea as it is a waste of time and money. A supercharger, or selling the car to buy a v8 would be a much smarter move) what v8 are you thinking? The 5.0 out of your brothers car would be a nightmare to install and not in any way worth it, and a newer v8 most likely wouldnt bolt up and still wouldnt be worth it. Im assuming you havent looked into this much because really you should just sell your car and buy the one you want, it would save you tuns of money and hassle.

+1 You will be spending more money buying all the accessories and bolts trying to install another engine. Plus it will be very time consuming. Your best bet would be to sell your car and buy a GT or just buy a supercharger or turbo.

[04mustang232]

shiftkit

[SilverSixxer]

ok first of all if i wanted to sell the car wouldnt you ppl think i would just do that with out asking, oviously i DO NOT WANT TO SELL IT!!! and seconds its not a waste of time or money i will have no car payment, no higher insurance just about 5 grand of work and its done BAM new car, i asked for help not to be critized about what i want to do i asked for advice so ill take it, so thanks, any way

i looked into putting a supercharger on my 3.8 but i have 150000 miles and it runs bad as it is so that was be pointless.

what kind of shift kit would we be talking about?

[Lt_Crazy]

if ur car runs bad......then swap the engine........shift kit go with B&M but J-mod's are better and not much more expensive...!?!?!

[SilverSixxer]

so Lt_Crazy, your saying just do the engine swap, and put in a shift kit.... is that like a slap shift or what? lol sorry im new

[96gtstang&V6]

VAP Auto - J-Mod Kits -that is for the jmod, they are out of stock but if you email the guy you will be able to send yours to him and he will perform the j mod and send it back.

[04mustang232]

i have a b&m shift kit. Its amazing. All it does is reduce shift overlap, firms shifts a TON, and extends tranny life. Its like 75 bucks, not expensive to install (i wouldnt do it urself), and makes ur car feel completely different. I love mine. My computer in my car + shiftkit will outshift ANYONE in a 5 speed at the track.

[WLJohnson05]

truthfully i wouldnt look into doing anything that adds power to ur car if its already running like shit. if its running bad get a rebuild or something and work from the engine out instead of doing tranny swaps and all that mess. get the car running strong before doing mods.

[SilverSixxer]

ya, im planning on doing the tranny AFTER i get the engine rebuilt...

[Lt_Crazy]

Originally Posted by WLJohnson05 truthfully i wouldnt look into doing anything that adds power to ur car if its already running like shit. if its running bad get a rebuild or something and work from the engine out instead of doing tranny swaps and all that mess. get the car running strong before doing mods.

+ 1.....but it might be more worth it just to get a new car f u gotta swap engine, tranny and everything that goes in it unless just put another 3.8........thats relatively cheap......

[SilverSixxer]

i know it would be cheaper... i dont care about that lol i want MY car with a new 5.0 engine... thanks anyway guys

[JMack]

Okay...

First things first, and this may be a couple posts.

A 5.0L swap into a 2000 3.8L is possible, however, not the best idea, and my reasoning behind this is:

You are not mechanically inclined enough to attempt this at this time if you have to ask all of these questions about them. I mean ABSOLUTELY NO OFFENSE HERE, however, you just have to look at this logically.

1. They NEVER put a 5.0 in the 99-04 cars from the factory (5.4 yes, but that is an entirely different beast.)
2. You are going to be changing so much of this car, that it won't TRUELY be the same car anymore. Same frame and most of the interior, yes, but nothing more.
3. Switching a Auto to a manual is just asking for problems. I will go a little more in depth on this in a moment.

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Now... To touch on the 5.0 swap. Have you taken into account everything that you will need to get this swap done? Things that I can think of off the top of my head:

1. K-member (tubular would be the best option, as the 5.0 is a pig.)
2. Struts and springs
3. Upper and Lower control arms (tubular again would be recommended w/ the K-member)
4. Motor mounts
5. Radiator
6. MOTOR
7. Tranny (the T5 may be able to handle it, if it were heavily built, however, you're probably looking at a T45 or T3650 minimum. If you're going whole hog on this w/ the 5.0L, just put in a T56 6 speed)
8. Clutch, fork, pedals, cables, etc.
9. Bellhousing
10. New tranny hump (fabricating anyone?)
11. subframe connectors (full length)
12. Driveshaft
13. Rear end
14 Trailing arms for the rear end
15. Relocating the brake booster (the 5.0 won't fit with the stock booster, you will prolly have to swap to manual or hydraulic brakes.)
16. A/C delete (no A/C w/ a 5.0 in a 99-04 I don't believe)
17. ECU
18. Fuel lines and pump (5.0 is a return system)
19. Fans (electric or crank driven)
20. Exhaust (full, headers / manifolds, cats, cross pipe, dumps)
21. Brakes to stop this hog (Bullits/Mach 1 at least, Cobra would be better)
22. Wiring (I'd be down, I'm from Ohio and have wired Aircraft for the last 6.5 years and a couple of custom things for cars)
23. Firewall (you'd have to modify it at the very least)
24. Hood (3" cowl would prolly do it)
25. All the bits and pieces to make it run (too much stuff to list right now, there's a ton I'm sure.)

I hope I've answered some questions for you, and I did not mean to offend you in any way if I have, I just merely want you to understand the undertaking that you are speaking of attempting.

[SilverSixxer]

NOW THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT THANKS!!!!!!!!! and trust me you didnt offend me at all all i know how to do is put gas, and little things like that my brother is the mechanically inclined one who will be doing everything... hes been building cars since he was about 6 or 7 with my dad and grandpa so hes doing everything, but thanks alot! that is truley what i wanted... im looking at a donor car, would that help?

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by JMack Okay... First things first, and this may be a couple posts. A 5.0L swap into a 2000 3.8L is possible, however, not the best idea, and my reasoning behind this is: You are not mechanically inclined enough to attempt this at this time if you have to ask all of these questions about them. I mean ABSOLUTELY NO OFFENSE HERE, however, you just have to look at this logically. 1. They NEVER put a 5.0 in the 99-04 cars from the factory (5.4 yes, but that is an entirely different beast.) 2. You are going to be changing so much of this car, that it won't TRUELY be the same car anymore. Same frame and most of the interior, yes, but nothing more. 3. Switching a Auto to a manual is just asking for problems. I will go a little more in depth on this in a moment. a racing company made this swap and is the fastest n/a v6 known. nothing at all comes close ---------------------------------------- Now... To touch on the 5.0 swap. Have you taken into account everything that you will need to get this swap done? Things that I can think of off the top of my head: 1. K-member (tubular would be the best option, as the 5.0 is a pig.) 2. Struts and springs 3. Upper and Lower control arms (tubular again would be recommended w/ the K-member)4. Motor mounts 5. Radiator 6. MOTOR 7. Tranny (the T5 may be able to handle it, if it were heavily built, however, you're probably looking at a T45 or T3650 minimum. If you're going whole hog on this w/ the 5.0L, just put in a T56 6 speed) 8. Clutch, fork, pedals, cables, etc. 9. Bellhousing 10. New tranny hump (fabricating anyone?) 11. subframe connectors (full length) 12. Driveshaft 13. Rear end 14 Trailing arms for the rear end 15. Relocating the brake booster (the 5.0 won't fit with the stock booster, you will prolly have to swap to manual or hydraulic brakes.)16. A/C delete (no A/C w/ a 5.0 in a 99-04 I don't believe) 17. ECU 18. Fuel lines and pump (5.0 is a return system) 19. Fans (electric or crank driven) 20. Exhaust (full, headers / manifolds, cats, cross pipe, dumps) 21. Brakes to stop this hog (Bullits/Mach 1 at least, Cobra would be better) 22. Wiring (I'd be down, I'm from Ohio and have wired Aircraft for the last 6.5 years and a couple of custom things for cars) 23. Firewall (you'd have to modify it at the very least) 24. Hood (3" cowl would prolly do it) 25. All the bits and pieces to make it run (too much stuff to list right now, there's a ton I'm sure.) I hope I've answered some questions for you, and I did not mean to offend you in any way if I have, I just merely want you to understand the undertaking that you are speaking of attempting.

everything red is NOT needed

so no offense but please dont give advice
let me explain
first off every seen a 5.8 or 408 carb stroker in one of these? clears the stock hood like pie
a 3in cowl...hell no
modifying wasnt need in the firewall for those bigger motors
realize the 5.0 is not to much bigger AT ALL then a 4.6 as far as actual size
next a t5 will be FINE since idk 5.0 came stock with em

stock kmember and suspension will easily work
stock brakes will deffintly stop a slow stock 5.0
im riding stock brakes with 390rwhp and im doing just fine!

you dont need to touch the radiator fan. or the radiator really. just different hoses

you can deffinitly have a/c in the 5.0s plenty came with it...idk where you got that idea


im using a driveshaft that was in a 9second fox on this site...
im pushing 390rwhp on the 7.5
a posi unit will do the job but an 8.8 would be a good idea

why in the world does he need upper and lower control arms for a motor swap?

you stress these items like he NEEDS them or it wont work...which is completely false for a good amount of items you listed as you can see


the yellow im not 100%sure on but im plenty sure theres a way to make it work


my biggest question
why in the world would he need sub frame connectors FULL length or even any aftermarket ones at all for this swap
theres not a chance in hell he's going to do any kind of damage to that chasis with a 5.0 motor built
with a turbo and or nitrous or s/c ok maybe

[SilverSixxer]

ok now im getting some where... thanks guys


i got a questions, why wouldnt a 5.0 fit when i 4.6 does... its only .4 more cubic inch?

like i said im new at this and IM NOT DOING THE WORK...

[SilverSixxer]

ok nevermind my last post... i was thinking something differant and typed something totally different.

[JMack]

Originally Posted by itschristorres8 everything red is NOT needed so no offense but please dont give advice let me explain first off every seen a 5.8 or 408 carb stroker in one of these? clears the stock hood like pie a 3in cowl...hell no modifying wasnt need in the firewall for those bigger motors realize the 5.0 is not to much bigger AT ALL then a 4.6 as far as actual size next a t5 will be FINE since idk 5.0 came stock with em I have seen a 5.8 and a 408 in a 99-04, however, they had a 5" Cowl on it, and I didn't do it, so I didn't know. Better safe suggesting extra parts than not enough. stock kmember and suspension will easily work stock brakes will deffintly stop a slow stock 5.0 im riding stock brakes with 390rwhp and im doing just fine! I suspected this, however I wanted to err on the side of caution. you dont need to touch the radiator fan. or the radiator really. just different hoses Are you sure the factory 3.8L radiator can handle that much? An 88 is a different beast than what was in the 94-95's. I know a couple people w/ bolt on modified 99-04 GT's w/ overtemp problems. you can deffinitly have a/c in the 5.0s plenty came with it...idk where you got that idea I didn't say you couldn't run A/C, just may be more trouble than it's worth in Ohio. The only time I EVER use my A/C is when my wife's in the car w/ me... I used to live in Cali too, never really used it there either. im using a driveshaft that was in a 9second fox on this site... im pushing 390rwhp on the 7.5 a posi unit will do the job but an 8.8 would be a good idea I don't really think the 7.5 could handle the torque on the 5.0, I am unsure that anyone has ever really tried it. The 5.0 has always come w/ the beefier rear. why in the world does he need upper and lower control arms for a motor swap? The front of the car is going to sag something fierce with the extra weight of that motor. Keep in mind that the suspension has PROBABLY remained unchange w/ quite a few miles on them. you stress these items like he NEEDS them or it wont work...which is completely false for a good amount of items you listed as you can see NONE of this was stressed as a NECESSITY, I was merely mentioning things that I would take into consideration for a swap like this. The only reason that I would even consider a swap of this magnitute (read as bad choice) is for an all out race/weekend car. These are all things that I was bringing to mind from MY standpoint. the yellow im not 100%sure on but im plenty sure theres a way to make it work my biggest question why in the world would he need sub frame connectors FULL length or even any aftermarket ones at all for this swap theres not a chance in hell he's going to do any kind of damage to that chasis with a 5.0 motor built with a turbo and or nitrous or s/c ok maybe

See above comments in BLUE

[SilverSixxer]

thanks guys... im thinking about getting a shift kit with my auto.. whats your thoughts on that?