[trueballerisme]

wuts the difference? and wut is each 1 used for? and wut do u guys reccomend for a 2005+ ? also if you know price range and wut 1's r good.

THANKS

[ChrisJ]

Supercharger
Turbocharger

Turbo will make more power but will cost more...A supercharger will make not as much power as the turbo but it will be alot cheaper and alot more user friendly...For a street car a supercharger is a pretty good choice unless you are quite the good wrench turner or have deep pockets...

[trueballerisme]

wut do u mean by user friendly like u wont have to take care of it? and wuts the best if u had all the money u want? and does the turbocharger need lots of work when u change things?

[ChrisJ]

Turbochargers are expensive...And it takes quite alot of time and money to get them perfect...It also takes a tuner with a back ground in tuning turbos to really be able to get the turbo set-up to work properly...Most any addition you do to the car will need a tune...

A supercharger is alittle more user friendly becuase there are alot of people running them out there and there are alot of tuners around that can tune them...They are also cheaper...

If money is not a factor then I would go turbo...Its more efficient...

[trueballerisme]

if money was not an issue wut do u recomment for ME? cause is the turbo too hard for me to maintain?

[ChrisJ]

If money is no issue for you and you can find a shop around you that can tune the turbos for your car then I would tell you to go turbo...But a turbo is not something that a person that just started in cars should try and install or build themselves...

Find a local shop that can do it for you...Find a place online that sells turbo kits for your car and have the shop install and tune it and you will be fine...

[trueballerisme]

ok but when i add bolt ons and everything like pipes and headers and mufflers will i need to take it back each time? and will i be able to drive it to the shop?

[ChrisJ]

With a turbo you will already have turbo headers that will come with the kit and will have to be on the car so that the turbo can work...Turbos work off exhaust gas...

Yes if you add bolt-ons that can make the car have more power you will want to get a tune...

Yes you could drive the car to the tuner shop...

[trueballerisme]

ok and just to clear thing up u cant have a s/c and turbo right? do they both take the same spot on the engine?

[ChrisJ]

People ahve done both on some cars but I do not recommend doing it...It is a tuning nightmare and your car would not really be daily driveable...

They btoh force air into the engine...The supercharger uses a pulley to build boost and a turbo uses exhaust gases to make boost...

Plain and simple I would choose one and stick with it...Dont try for both...

[trueballerisme]

ok. so u say if money is no problem and i can find a shop get the turbo, but if i cant get the money and there is no shop get the s/c? which is best for the GT? or is it all the same for all cars?

[ChrisJ]

It is the same...

A turbo is better but costs more...

A supercharger is still a great addition and is cheaper...

[trueballerisme]

ok here read this. i found it on howstuffworks.com

But what if someone is trying to decide between a supercharger and a turbocharger? This question is hotly debated by auto engineers and car enthusiasts, but in general, superchargers offer a few advantages over turbochargers.

Superchargers do not suffer lag -- a term used to describe how much time passes between the driver depressing the gas pedal and the engine's response. Turbochargers suffer from lag because it takes a few moments before the exhaust gases reach a velocity that is sufficient to drive the impeller/turbine. Superchargers have no lag time because they are driven directly by the crankshaft. Certain superchargers are more efficient at lower RPM, while others are more efficient at higher RPM. Roots and twin-screw superchargers, for example, provide more power at lower RPM. Centrifugal superchargers, which become more efficient as the impeller spins faster, provide more power at higher RPM.



It says superchargers r better...wait yd u say turbos r better though?

[ChrisJ]

That is written by someone that is biased...

Turbos have lag...But with newer turbo set-ups it is really not that noticeable...No parasitic drag...No belts to slip...More efficient...More power...More Expensive then superchargers...

Superchargers have parasitic drag on the motor...Thus give less power...Superchargers can loose boost because the belt could be slipping...And thus not producing as much power...Cheaper then turbos...

Each person is going to say soemthing different for a pro and con of each...Superchargers can make just as much power as turbos but turbos make that kind of power alot easier then a supercharger...

[trueballerisme]

ok about how much r turbos?

[ChrisJ]

Turbo kits can be $5000 or more...Depends on what kit you go with...

[97TunedMustang]

turbo kits for the 6er before the 05 model year from tmaturbo are like $3700 and for the 05-06 mustang v6 turbo kit is also about the same price however i cant seem to locate a link to it at this point in time. You could always have a turbo kit built and that would also be crazy expensive. superchargers for the 6er are also about the same price so its up to you what you like more. I personally would go with a turbo for many reasons. one being for the sound but also because they're more reliable, no parasitic loss, and if you build up your engine internally or get larger injectors you can up the boost quite easily with a turbo where as superchargers are generally very limited with lower boost pressures and you can only change boost by changing the pulley size.

[trueballerisme]

wow thats alot. i hear that supercharger over all gives u more hp.... i think i might go with a supercharger though because of $. how much is a supercharger? do u have a s/c or turbo?

[trueballerisme]

Originally Posted by 97TunedMustang turbo kits for the 6er before the 05 model year from tmaturbo are like $3700 and for the 05-06 mustang v6 turbo kit is also about the same price however i cant seem to locate a link to it at this point in time. You could always have a turbo kit built and that would also be crazy expensive. superchargers for the 6er are also about the same price so its up to you what you like more. I personally would go with a turbo for many reasons. one being for the sound but also because they're more reliable, no parasitic loss, and if you build up your engine internally or get larger injectors you can up the boost quite easily with a turbo where as superchargers are generally very limited with lower boost pressures and you can only change boost by changing the pulley size.

wut do u mean by building ut up internally and getting larger injections? and wuts the price difference between the two? and do u think a turbo charger is hard to install for some1 new like me?

[97TunedMustang]

I have a vortech v2 s-trim supercharger. The supercharger kits through vortech are $3406 and $3640 respectively for the 94-98 v6 mustang. higher priced one is for the polished finish, cheaper is the satin. I couldnt find pricing on prochargers but i imagine theyre similar pricing.

Really the pricing is very similar for the two from what ive seen. For anyone new or even fairly knowledgeable with cars installing a turbo kit or supercharger is a hell of undertaking that you probably wouldnt want to be attempting without some professional assistance.

Let me give you an example of what i was tryin to say. lets say stock you you install a turbo kit on your car and to be safe you run it at 6lbs of boost which the engine could easily handle but your stock injectors are coming close to being maxed out. Now Lets say down the road you want to upgrade injectors to allow for more fuel. Say you do that. well now with the stock engine and internal components (pistons, rods, crank) and your new injectors you can do 10lbs of boost easily. So you turn up the boost via a manual boost controller which is just a vaccum adjuster between your wastegate and manifold with a knob you turn by hand instantly raising or lowering the turbos boost output. With a s/c if you wanted to raise the boost you would have to purchase a smaller pulley that is calculated to a specific boost pressure which can be about $70 which you also have to get installed. Now lets say you do some major engine work and your engine internally now can handle 25 pounds of boost easy so you simply turn the knob again till you are at the desired pressure. This still isnt something you want to be doing yourself. you have a shop set the boost pressure and tune it for you. a t3/t4 turbo can be set anywhere from virtually no boost at all to 30lbs and up easily and reliably. The superchargers for the mustang are not going to get much past 11 because of the physical limitations of the internal gearing. Any faster with a much smaller pulley and they shred themselves to pieces and cause very heavy wear on the components inside very quickly. So if i had it my way id have a turbo kit. but thats just me.