[ByPopularDemand]

V6 rousch is just side exit exhaust, which is less efficient than rear exit, and a body kit. There's no way it added 75 whp

[WLJohnson05]

how bout u post some dyno runs or some pics of the engine

[Blainestang]

I can't imagine that the OP is suggesting that a near-stock Stage 1 Roush has 245whp. He MUST have at least some bolt-ons, but either way, without H/C/I, a 3.8 isn't getting anywhere near 245whp N/A.

[dgt_mustang]

HMUSN had the right thing with the description of a stage one roush package, mainly appearance, which is why the side exhaust came into play also,.......where is the OP?? i like to see him back up this thread with some proof of 245rwhp,

[itschristorres8]

point blank aside from false claims
any turbo setup wether single or twin will BY FAR surpass s/c v6 in 1/4, street and dyno
at the same boost levels

IMO for a V6 turbo is the way to go.

[00RoushV6]

Okay guys,

First off thank you for all the insults and sugestions. I think that I will go with a 4.2 stoker kit, upgrade the cam to a 7k rpm, go with a 75mm T/B, T/T Kit, and a good Nitros kit. And just to put everything to rest, I do have aprox. 245 rwhp. This is how.

Roush Body Kit
Front Lowering Springs 1.5 inches
Rear Lowering Springs 0.8 inches
210 base hp
Roush Exhaust - 20-30hp
Diablo Sport Tuner - 20-30hp
90mm K&N Cold Air Intake - 10-20hp
260-290hp BHP according to my friends tuner it has my car registerd at aprox 245 rwhp.

Thank you all for your input. Does anyone have any good sujestions for a good nitros kit? Or any recomendations auto kit versus push button kit?

Thank You all
00RoushV6

[WLJohnson05]

Originally Posted by 00RoushV6 Okay guys, First off thank you for all the insults and sugestions. I think that I will go with a 4.2 stoker kit, upgrade the cam to a 7k rpm, go with a 75mm T/B, T/T Kit, and a good Nitros kit. And just to put everything to rest, I do have aprox. 245 rwhp. This is how. Roush Body Kit Front Lowering Springs 1.5 inches Rear Lowering Springs 0.8 inches 210 base hp Roush Exhaust - 5-10hp Diablo Sport Tuner - 5-10hp 90mm K&N Cold Air Intake - 1-5hp 260-290hp BHP according to my friends tuner it has my car registerd at aprox 245 rwhp. Thank you all for your input. Does anyone have any good sujestions for a good nitros kit? Or any recomendations auto kit versus push button kit? Thank You all 00RoushV6

those mods will not give u those numbers. its not opinion its fact.

maybe:
Roush Exhaust - 5-10hp
Diablo Sport Tuner - 5-10hp
90mm K&N Cold Air Intake - 1-5hp

[SSStang]

Originally Posted by 00RoushV6 Okay guys, First off thank you for all the insults and sugestions. I think that I will go with a 4.2 stoker kit, upgrade the cam to a 7k rpm, go with a 75mm T/B, T/T Kit, and a good Nitros kit. And just to put everything to rest, I do have aprox. 245 rwhp. This is how. Roush Body Kit Front Lowering Springs 1.5 inches Rear Lowering Springs 0.8 inches 210 base hp Roush Exhaust - 20-30hp Diablo Sport Tuner - 20-30hp 90mm K&N Cold Air Intake - 10-20hp 260-290hp BHP according to my friends tuner it has my car registerd at aprox 245 rwhp. Thank you all for your input. Does anyone have any good sujestions for a good nitros kit? Or any recomendations auto kit versus push button kit? Thank You all 00RoushV6

Sorry, you MIGHT have 195rwhp...

[v6_armyguy]

All i have to say is
this kid has some HIGH hopes!

[00RoushV6]

Okay So I re-looked at my numbers. Here they are...

Dyno Tested Performance Tunes

The Predator was created with one thing in mind, POWER!

Average power gains are in the 15-20 RWHP range. The Predators additional power makes itself noticeable immediately with an increase in power that starts in the low RPMs and builds into a frenzy at the high RPMs.

A Predator equipped vehicle will notice significant improvements in drivability. The additional power and improved shift patterns created by the Predator tune will yield quicker acceleration and better mileage, whether it is in town or out on the highway.

The power increase in the lower RPMs will yield a better throttle response. The increase in MPG is a byproduct of maximized engine efficiency, the improved timing curve and air/fuel ratio creates a more complete combustion, i.e. the engine extracts more power from each molecule of gasoline.

2000 FORD Mustang 3.8L V6 F/I - All Automotive FIPK 57-2532

6.93 HP @ 4825 RPM

Roush Exhust - 20-25 Hp gain acording to Roush industies.
K&N CAI 6.93 HP
DIABLO SPORT PREDITOR - 15-20 hp

giving me final numbers of 251.93 – 261.93 BHP which still puts be at aprox 245 rwhp. Again this is aprox. acording to my friends SCT tuner/

Thanks,

00RoushV6

[SSStang]

Originally Posted by 00RoushV6 Okay So I re-looked at my numbers. Here they are... Dyno Tested Performance Tunes The Predator was created with one thing in mind, POWER! Average power gains are in the 15-20 RWHP range. The Predators additional power makes itself noticeable immediately with an increase in power that starts in the low RPMs and builds into a frenzy at the high RPMs. A Predator equipped vehicle will notice significant improvements in drivability. The additional power and improved shift patterns created by the Predator tune will yield quicker acceleration and better mileage, whether it is in town or out on the highway. The power increase in the lower RPMs will yield a better throttle response. The increase in MPG is a byproduct of maximized engine efficiency, the improved timing curve and air/fuel ratio creates a more complete combustion, i.e. the engine extracts more power from each molecule of gasoline. 2000 FORD Mustang 3.8L V6 F/I - All Automotive FIPK 57-2532 6.93 HP @ 4825 RPM Roush Exhust - 20-25 Hp gain acording to Roush industies. K&N CAI 6.93 HP DIABLO SPORT PREDITOR - 15-20 hp giving me final numbers of 251.93 – 261.93 BHP which still puts be at aprox 245 rwhp. Again this is aprox. acording to my friends SCT tuner/ Thanks, 00RoushV6

Look we don't deal in approximates, we deal with factual information. You don't have anywhere close to 245rwhp. Exhaust gives you at the MOST 5hp, K&N cai 1-2hp, diaBLOW tuner at the most 10rwhp.

[00RoushV6]

Okay look enough of this back and forth childs play. I was looking for information about T/T's or Superchargers and Nitros kits, not a debate about how much hp I have. It's really not about how much I do or don't have right now, it's about how much I will have in the end. Isn't that what it's all about in the end? Arn't we all looking for the ultimate stang in the end? Me I'm looking for the ultimate T/T natural asperated max hp possible with a 125 - 150 shot of nitros in the end I'm hoping for anywhere from 600-800 rwhp out of a V6. I'm also looking at a 331 stroker and hoping to build it to over 1000 rwhp.

thank you all,

00roushv6

[SSStang]

Originally Posted by 00RoushV6 Okay look enough of this back and forth childs play. I was looking for information about T/T's or Superchargers and Nitros kits, not a debate about how much hp I have. It's really not about how much I do or don't have right now, it's about how much I will have in the end. Isn't that what it's all about in the end? Arn't we all looking for the ultimate stang in the end? Me I'm looking for the ultimate T/T natural asperated max hp possible with a 125 - 150 shot of nitros in the end I'm hoping for anywhere from 600-800 rwhp out of a V6. I'm also looking at a 331 stroker and hoping to build it to over 1000 rwhp. thank you all, 00roushv6

Yeah but you need to understand what you HAVE to start off with before you try to add more. And most people only talk about power adders and never actually end up getting them.

You are a contradiction you can't have a Twin Turbo and be natural aspirated. Naturally aspirated motor = no supercharger or turbo. And you won't need nitrous with turbo just turn the boost up this is not fast&furious. You will need a bad ass 4.2L motor , girdle, and everything to try to make 600hp. As well as transmission and rear end.

[00RoushV6]

This is why I'm here, I'm by no means an expert. I'm here looking for advice from those who have more experiance than I have. I'm not a new kid either, I'm a 32 y/o who has been around the block. I'm am a bit new to the performace game though. So, If I go with a S/C I can go with N2O, T/T there is no need then. Okay, I'm tracking. I'm not saying that I can get massive gains from a V6, I'm by no means delusional.

Thanks,
00RoushV6

[Blainestang]

Yeah, I'd say you've got around ~180whp, give or take 5whp or so.

In order to make ~245whp with a 3.8, you need something close to the following: ported heads, custom cam, ported intakes, Long Tubes, and lots of bolt-ons.

This isn't simply to argue with you about your hp, it's to:

1. Keep misinformation from spreading.
2. Give you a better baseline number for where you're currently at... in lieu of an actual dyno. I mean, what would you feel like if you installed a supercharger and made 290whp if you thought you already HAD 245whp? Or how about going up against a 220whp Mustang GT at the track? There is no advantage to thinking you have a lot more horsepower than you actually do.

[HMUSN]

Roush Exhust - 20-25 Hp gain acording to Roush industies. ( talking about the v8 and it still itsn't that much )

K&N CAI 6.93 HP ( a little less than that but close)

DIABLO SPORT PREDITOR - 15-20 hp ( that's right if it's not a canned tune)

mind you those numbers are all crank hp numbers. people measure by crank hp numbers to sell products. racers and track whores measure by rwhp and 1320 times because that is where it counts.
you want real numbers.

your exhaust 5-8 rwhp
5 for your intake if your lucky
20 if it's a custom tune which I doubt so I'll give you 15.

so that's 25- 30 extra rwhp from stock. which is about 185 rwhp .. and I am being very lenient about those numbers. I had around the same mods minus the tuner on my 01 v6 and only made 166.2 rwhp / 202 rwtq.

[ItaliStang]

dude... you're going by what the people selling it to you are advertising... not by the ACTUAL gains...

just like ebay and other places can claim 15 hp from a cai... but it won't realistically... in fact, you're lucky to get 2 hp from any cai for the 3.8 v6

look at the hp gains that both SSStang and WLJohnson said... those are what you have... starting with 193 bhp stock (not the 210 you thought) plus mods would put you at maybe 20-25 more hp...so you have 213 bhp as of now... that's about 170 rwhp...

edit: well damn... looks like 2 or 3 other people said basically the same thing as I was typing that... nevermind then

[mustang_jim85]

Hey all I just pust this sick wing on my stang and went and mde some runs and measured my hp with my sct livewire. And its got me at 280rwhp. Its so amazing!!!!

if I only lived in 00roushv6's world this would be so true lol

[ItaliStang]

Originally Posted by Blainestang This isn't simply to argue with you about your hp, it's to: 1. Keep misinformation from spreading. 2. Give you a better baseline number for where you're currently at... in lieu of an actual dyno. I mean, what would you feel like if you installed a supercharger and made 290whp if you thought you already HAD 245whp? Or how about going up against a 220whp Mustang GT at the track? There is no advantage to thinking you have a lot more horsepower than you actually do.

oh and +1 to this...

we're not trying to bash you, we're just letting you know you've been misinformed... so you don't make a fool out of yourself when you show off your car to someone that knows their stuff

so who would you rather believe... a whole group of people who are into modding these V6's and have discussed almost everyday and tested the gains of each mod ... or a friend's handheld tuner?

[00RoushV6]

Again not to argue but I'm also going on what my friends SCT tuner said. I haven't had the extra time to dyno it. I plan on it one day. I also plan on taking to the Fayettville track soon. So after I track it, I'll post those numbers. I have had the car as fast as 135. I've had plenty more to go. This is enough about how much HP I do or don't have. I am the second owner of the car, I don't know what mods that first owner did, like cam change out or gear change or anything to that effect. I haven't had the chance to look. When I do start these mods in the next 3-6 months I'll find out. Again thank you all for the great advice.

Thanks,

00RoushV6