[00RoushV6]

One more thing, you all may be right. His tuner may be wrong. I may be closer to 180 rwhp. I'm done arguing this point. I was simply looking for advice on which would give me better HP gains the T/T or the S/C with Nitros.

Thanks,
00RoushV6

[plove71387]

Get a Twin turbo kit from TMA TURBO and call it done, you can also get a fully built tranny from Bc Automotive. nice quailty work and nice parts. im in the process of trying to get my car back together and im hoping for 500rwhp with a TMA Single turbo kit, Rpm-Mustangs 4.2 Motor with goodies, and a tranny from BC auto. you might want to upgrade to a 8.8 with 31 splines too.

Good Luck!

[AJRight 2008]

I'll tell you up front. If your not a typical kid who gets bored with his car after like a couple years of driving it and you dont mind spending 10k to make your car like J's then the turbos are a good idea. If not, Put a blower on it and be done with it. Im Twin turboing my car and being realistic my crap wont be done for at least a couple years since im in college and my car isnt my entire life (no pun intended) but m112 that bitch gain a 100whp add other bolt-ons and traction and trans mods and i think you will be happy.

Or you could go single turbo and still make a 13's pass all day at the track if you get like a gt 35-40 turbo. Ask itschristorres, he will tell you all about it

Also if your twin turboing it you have to know your shit. beacuse most performance shops or shops to begin with dont work with v6's so you have to do it your self or have some one build up your motor for you.

[dgt_mustang]

You should find everything out about your car before you begin modifying it,

you said you dont know if the previous owner did anything to it like cam work (i doubt
they did, cuz otherwise probably wouldnt have sold it putting that kind of work into it) by finding all that out you dont accidently replace some performance part that was in there to begin with.

oh, and i doubt stating your a 32 y/o isnt gonna gain you much insight, there are some amazing guys on here building a fantastic motor and they are only 18-20.


all that aside, ABSOLUTELY GO TT!!! or!!! better yet!! buy a twin-turbo setup and then fed-ex one of them to me!!!

[T-Money]

man you guys are harsh. there's no need to be a dick about all this stuff.

hey man go with a custom setup. go with a built bottom end and run a custom twin turbo setup. i plan on going with twin garrett gt35r ball bearing turbos but im looking for some serious power. with a proper tune and build a single gt35 r will get you around 400rwhp

[AJRight 2008]

Originally Posted by T-Money man you guys are harsh. there's no need to be a dick about all this stuff. hey man go with a custom setup. go with a built bottom end and run a custom twin turbo setup. i plan on going with twin garrett gt35r ball bearing turbos but im looking for some serious power. with a proper tune and build a single gt35 r will get you around 400rwhp

dude Im not being harsh. What i said was all truestory.com right there. Its NOT easy or cheap to build a TT car. I have already started and i have already spend a bit of money on this endevor. If you want it done its going to take you awhile. Unless you make a baller ass salary or mommy and daddy love you a whole lot to help with some $$$. I mean i hope he figures it out and w/e he does i hope it goes well and i will help where i can but I was in no way being harsh. Oh and good luck trying to spin twin 35's....Whats up turbo lag oh and hello spool at like 4500rpms....

[WLJohnson05]

Originally Posted by 00RoushV6 Again not to argue but I'm also going on what my friends SCT tuner said. I haven't had the extra time to dyno it. I plan on it one day. I also plan on taking to the Fayettville track soon. So after I track it, I'll post those numbers. I have had the car as fast as 135. I've had plenty more to go. This is enough about how much HP I do or don't have. I am the second owner of the car, I don't know what mods that first owner did, like cam change out or gear change or anything to that effect. I haven't had the chance to look. When I do start these mods in the next 3-6 months I'll find out. Again thank you all for the great advice. Thanks, 00RoushV6

i would be careful about going that fast too. if ur still on the stock stuff its prolly not rated for that kind of speed.

Originally Posted by 00RoushV6 One more thing, you all may be right. His tuner may be wrong. I may be closer to 180 rwhp. I'm done arguing this point. I was simply looking for advice on which would give me better HP gains the T/T or the S/C with Nitros. Thanks, 00RoushV6

definitely TT. learn up on everything about the engine and about FI before doing all this and u can make ur own decision but in the end pound for pound the turbo is gonna be better. with that tt setup ur also going to have to get some internals for the engine, prolly a stronger tranny, and definitely a 8.8 rear. then also ur gonna need suspension upgrades and other random stuff...if u have the around $15k to do this job then go right ahead, and keep us updated bc that would be a tight build, but its not an easy or cheap job

we have stickies at the top of this section that will give you a lot of information that can help you out, check em out...this one in particular:

Look Here Before Asking About Mods

[plove71387]

Originally Posted by WLJohnson05 u have the around $15k to do this job then go right ahead, and keep us updated bc that would be a tight build

Cost more then 15k Trust me i know, ive just done it but Single kit maybe i sholda made a build thread

[obdnanr]

fuck superchargers, that is all.

[WLJohnson05]

Originally Posted by plove71387 Cost more then 15k Trust me i know, ive just done it but Single kit maybe i sholda made a build thread

i was just ballparking it, prolly closer to 20k

[itschristorres8]

how about this
if your car dynos 220rwhp+ not even 245 as your car is with in this week
i will buy you a twin turbo kit and give you ported upper and lower intakes

i need a video and dyno in the video.

[SSStang]

Andy said hes turning down turbo kit orders now because he needs a real job...
Which doesn't bother me since I have twin turbo kit # 3 out of 3 .... BUT yes its gonna get EXPENSIVE QUICK.

[plove71387]

Originally Posted by SSStang Andy said hes turning down turbo kit orders now because he needs a real job... Which doesn't bother me since I have twin turbo kit # 3 out of 3 .... BUT yes its gonna get EXPENSIVE QUICK.

yep hes right was just talking to Andy today hes not making kits. . .good i got mine single or not

[SSStang]

Originally Posted by plove71387 yep hes right was just talking to Andy today hes not making kits. . .good i got mine single or not

Poor people

[00RoushV6]

Like I said once I go to start this endeavor money will not be much of an issue. I know that it will set me back anywhere from 15-20k, that will not be that big of a deal.

Thanks again.

[itschristorres8]

i dyno pull is $50
you can get a $5500 kit plus a fully ported top end for FREE

[00RoushV6]

Okay all,

I should have done some more home work before I whent and opened my mouth. This is the research that I was able to pull up. The numbers may be off a little. But again, the tunner still had me at 245. After looking at the numbers and re-calculating them I have to agree with you all, this number don't seem practical. The only true way I will know my actual numbers is to have it dynoed. When I have the extra money I will have it dynoed, and take it to the track. After which I will either be be proven false, or whatever. I will post those numbers after I have them. This may be a month or two down the road. I called my local speed shop and they told me that there is only two ways to find out if the car had beed previously stoked or not. 1. Tear it apart and see, or 2. measure the distance between the pistons and the sparkplugs to see the difference. Next time I take it in I'm going to have them look at that. I will then post those measurments. I'm still at a stand still on weather or not I'm going with a T/T or a S/C with Nitros. A T/T seems to be so much more expensive. And It don't seem to get me all that much more HP gain over a good S/C set up with a 175 Nitros shot. And the S/C and Nitros will cost less. and the max HP will be safer for the block. what is everyones opions on this?

2000 Mustang 3.8
193 HP @ 5500 RPM
225 Ft-lbs @ 2800 RPM
3.8L
193 base
20-25: exh
15-20: tuner
6-7: cai
234-245:BHP

2000 F150 4.2
202 HP @ 4800 RPM
252 Ft-Lbs @ 3400 RPM
4.2L Stroker
202 base
20-25: exh
15-20: tuner
6-7: cai
243-254:BHP


Gen 4 Mustang
The base model came with a 3.8L OHV V6 (232cid) engine rated at 145hp (108kW; 1994-1995) or 150hp (112kW; 1996-1998) and was mated to a standard 5-speed manual transmission or optional 4-speed automatic. Though initially used in the 1994 and 1995 Mustang GT, Ford retired the 302cid Windsor (5.0L) overhead-valve small-block V8 after nearly 40 years of use, replacing it with the newer Modular 4.6L (281cid) SOHC V8 in the 1996 Mustang GT. The 4.6L V8 was initially rated at 215hp (160kW; 1996-1997) but was later increased to 225hp (168kW; 1998).[23]

For 1999, the Mustang received Ford's New Edge styling theme with sharper contours, larger wheel arches, and creases in its bodywork, but its basic proportions, interior design, and chassis remained the same as the previous model. The Mustang's powertrains were carried over for 1999 but benefitted from new improvements. The standard 3.8L V6, thanks to a new split-port fuel injection system, now produced 190hp (142kW; 1999-2004)[24] while the Mustang GT's 4.6L V8 saw an increase in output to 260hp (194kW; 1999-2004), thanks to a new head design and other enhancements.

This was all the information that everyone else seemed to know that I didn't. Sorry for seeming so unknowledgable about this. I didin't what to be the guy spreading false information. Again thank you all for the great advice.

Thank You,
00RoushV6

[WLJohnson05]

the question is how much power are you looking to have in the end. the debate between the two can go on forever, but what numbers are you looking to get?

[SSStang]

^
Yes, we already knew this....


Anyway S/C and 175 shot... well it'll be great for the track. I like having all my power all the time, and more at the touch of a boost controller.

[00RoushV6]

The real question is this. Which one will be better for my engine in the long run? Either way, I'm going to build it right. Just which one will kill the engine faster? I'm not going to be driving hard all the time. Just the ocational times at the track and of course the ocational killing of a ricer. I'm looking to have some where around 500-600 rwhp by the time I'm done. Either one will get me there, it's a question of which one will kill my engine faster. I'll be posting a link to pics of my ride later.
00RoushV6