What you think is smarter to do... *Engine Question*

September 23rd, 2008, 12:04 PM	#1
justinsstang Enthusiast 1998 Mustang v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Poplar Bluff, Missouri Posts: 749	What you think is smarter to do... Engine Question Well me and my fiance are about to split I believe, so I guess I'm gonna be in a postion to start modding again... so back to my original plans of modding. Whatta you guys think I should do. I want to build a v6, I'm thinking I can do to a junkyard and pick up a 3.8L for $250. I'm gonna try and get a 01+ block... Would this be a good idea? Get an engine stand, buy a junkyard one, build it, then swap it for my old one? I think it'd save alot of installation fee's in the end, plus I think it would be a better learning experience, somethin to toy with. I was planning on getting the owners manual, and I have friends that told me they could help me with proper lubing and stuff... so good idea right? __________________ Red '98 Mustang. Custom Dual Exhaust w/ fabbed X pipe. CAI. 17in Black Rims w/ Aluminum Lip. Alpine Head Unit and Type-S speakers in doors and decklid. 600w Bridged BOSS amp to two 12" Audio Bahn Blue Flame Series Subs.

September 23rd, 2008, 12:11 PM	#2
keeprollin02 Regular 2000 Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Radford, VA Posts: 101	Go for it.

September 23rd, 2008, 12:26 PM	#3
riddlee josh Enthusiast 1998 mustang 3.8l v6 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: portsmouth ohio Posts: 618	sounds like a plan. good luck getting a v6 motor for that much. i was going to get a 99+ motor and it was going to be like $600. sounds like a good plan though. good luck. and post pics of progress __________________ 1998 mustang v6,UD pulleys,msd 8.5 mm wires shorty headers no cats H pipe flowmaster knock offs cold air intake w/ k n filter headlights mirrors 2 10 xplod subs 1000 watt amp

September 23rd, 2008, 12:37 PM	#4
justinsstang Enthusiast 1998 Mustang v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Poplar Bluff, Missouri Posts: 749	the junkyard i went to a long time ago had a 460, a 302, and a 350W all running for 250 ea. im sure i can get a 3.8L for 250 lol. But yea it'll only happen if me and my gf split... but i mean i dont ya kno, WANT to split up, but this is just giving me something to look forward to if we do, I got a new job at a factory and I can finally afford to do some REAL mods. so if it does happen, im lookin at a good time... and i'll need it so i dont go insane from the breakup, been together 2 years as of sept 10. hard shit man __________________ Red '98 Mustang. Custom Dual Exhaust w/ fabbed X pipe. CAI. 17in Black Rims w/ Aluminum Lip. Alpine Head Unit and Type-S speakers in doors and decklid. 600w Bridged BOSS amp to two 12" Audio Bahn Blue Flame Series Subs.

September 23rd, 2008, 12:46 PM	#5
riddlee josh Enthusiast 1998 mustang 3.8l v6 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: portsmouth ohio Posts: 618	oh man i hope yiu don't break up. i know it is hard but i can't even relate to 2 years. i've been dating my girl for 8 months and we almost split last week and it was tough. luckily we got through it. btw that is an amazing deal on those motors. i would try to get one even if you don't split. just as something to do on the side. __________________ 1998 mustang v6,UD pulleys,msd 8.5 mm wires shorty headers no cats H pipe flowmaster knock offs cold air intake w/ k n filter headlights mirrors 2 10 xplod subs 1000 watt amp

September 23rd, 2008, 12:52 PM	#6
GreenFaleen Resident MM Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.9@103/8.9@81 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 9,388	sounds good, but 250 for a 3.8 is pretty cheap 350's and 302 are pretty common they sale a lot cheaper than our engines __________________ Scion Tc-strup racing header, CAI, Ground Kit, NOS 100shot, Custom suspension, Doc. I 50% STS MM 4 Banger club: Senior Ricer "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby Thanks To My Sponsors: Strup Performance

September 23rd, 2008, 01:00 PM	#7
HMUSN Doc 91 Sonic Blue Goodness 19.83 @ 12mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 27,311	I would build a v8 option. pushrod or mod motor..

September 25th, 2008, 01:16 AM	#8
justinsstang Enthusiast 1998 Mustang v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Poplar Bluff, Missouri Posts: 749	Well actually I was kinda thinking too... Alot of people do the stroker kit to 4.2L What if I just go ahead and get a 4.2L and build it... I think that would be smarter, what do you guys think? What is the Pro's and Con's other than it being a little bit heavier... and would it fit right. Also I thought I heard before about a 4.3L, is there a such thing... and if so should I try that one? Thanks guys __________________ Red '98 Mustang. Custom Dual Exhaust w/ fabbed X pipe. CAI. 17in Black Rims w/ Aluminum Lip. Alpine Head Unit and Type-S speakers in doors and decklid. 600w Bridged BOSS amp to two 12" Audio Bahn Blue Flame Series Subs.

September 25th, 2008, 01:20 AM	#9
buddyantunez1 Enthusiast 2000 3.8L Mustang 195.9/220.8 hp/tq N/A Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cleveland MS/Stafford VA Posts: 628	its a good setup b/c you can still drive the car while building the other motor. go F/I while you are at it and upgrade the fuel system, rear end, and build the trans. bigger brakes are also a must. Get to Work!!! __________________ ~Nitrous is like a Hot Girl with STD's, you know you wanna hit it, but your afraid of the consequences~

September 25th, 2008, 01:23 AM	#10
itschristorres8 SP00LIN V6 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,619	can you build a motor? once again if you dnt even just clean the motor right you'll be wasting so much money once that car starts and breaks in. you NEED to be mechanically inclined to build motors. its not a cold air intake. __________________ 437rwhp and 402rwtq through a V6 on a stock bottom end

September 25th, 2008, 11:32 AM	#11
keeprollin02 Regular 2000 Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Radford, VA Posts: 101	Im confused..why cant you have BOTH (car projects and girl)?

September 25th, 2008, 01:04 PM	#12
justinsstang Enthusiast 1998 Mustang v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Poplar Bluff, Missouri Posts: 749	Because she keeps saying "I don't know what I want" meaning she doesn't know if she wants to be with me anymore. We live together, bills suck up all my money... so if we split up and I move back home with my parents, I'll have a crap load of money to burn on it... I just told her yesterday I'll give her more time to think, I was going to leave tomorrow if she couldn't tell me one way or the other. Chris I'm a pretty smart person overall, I'm not gonna say it wont be a big deal, because I'm sure it will be, but it's something I really want to do someday... I'll be able to handle it. I'm also getting promoted already (been there a month and a half) at my job right now. $2.50 raise. This extra cash (approx $100 more a week) will be going towards getting the stand, then the engine, then the mods. It'll take forever like this, but at least I'll have it started... because I honestly dont see her staying with me. This is about the fourth time me and her have had this go round so yeah. I'm pretty sure it will be over soon, but I just wanna be fair... as if I haven't already. __________________ Red '98 Mustang. Custom Dual Exhaust w/ fabbed X pipe. CAI. 17in Black Rims w/ Aluminum Lip. Alpine Head Unit and Type-S speakers in doors and decklid. 600w Bridged BOSS amp to two 12" Audio Bahn Blue Flame Series Subs.

September 25th, 2008, 01:45 PM	#13
keeprollin02 Regular 2000 Mustang V6 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Radford, VA Posts: 101	Ditch that girl...if she doesnt alread KNOW that she loves you..then shes most likely gonna mess with your emotions and bank account...

September 25th, 2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by keeprollin02

aint that the damn truth

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September 25th, 2008, 02:50 PM	#15
itschristorres8 SP00LIN V6 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,619	if you say so. remember one thing just because you get all new parts doesnt mean it'll all measure out correctly plastiguaging the motor, checking end play, ring gap as well as other measurments to much of any of those will destroy the motor prematurly no offense and im sure you are smart but being smart in general as in book smart has nothing to do and wont help you with motor smart. i dont build motors for people online that need it shipped so its not like im trying to get business, but seeing your previous post from past times and now this is something i would take to a pro plus having a GOOD and WELL calibrated torque wrench is extremely important. i would pay the extra$$$ for a craftsman torque wrench, mac or preferably SNAP ON and knowing torque sequence and the wrench is also equaly as important. like a big mistake people make is this they see a torque sequence of 20, 55, 85-110 they think its safer and smarter to go 20,40,55,70, 95...110 WRONG anything below 70-85 yea is ok if that were the sequence but if you go to 95 or 100, then go in for that final 110 torque...95-100 is TIGHT and hard to move....it might click before that nut even budges then you think 2 things hmm well thats done and ready or hmmm is that right? the answer is its WRONG it takes more momentum to move something so thats not a TRUE 110 torque... thats why going from 95-110 or something short at high torque even low isnt always better at all and if thats a head bolt you could have made a weak spot in the gasket now another thing is when torquing it has to click WHILE the wrench was moving! if you make a 1/4 pull and no click then back it up and go for a pull and hear a click...you think ok its there...its not...its the same thing i said before...that has to be backed up and re-done Im saying this cause I've seen people think they can do something and they think they know they can and something small screwed it up like oil on the top and bottom of a bearing or over lubricating i know your dead set on it but honestly unless you've rebuilt a motor before THIS HAS GOT BAD NEWS written all over it and watching someone rebuild a motor or handing them a wrench doesnt count the first motor i rebuild had someones name carved in the piston...it was a junk motor perfect for practicing on in class i did about 5 before attempting a real motor __________________ 437rwhp and 402rwtq through a V6 on a stock bottom end

September 25th, 2008, 04:36 PM	#16
03sixbanger Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 30	go for it man. hope everything works out with your girl but true, if after two years she doesnt KNOW if she wants you, youre wasting your time. but yea i say build the v6. i love my sixxer. i have a 3.8 longblock if youre interested. or yes you could do the 4.2L from an f150 or the 4.3L from ssm. but if you want real power, add some fi on top of it......yes. ON TOP of it

September 25th, 2008, 07:26 PM	#17
dgt_mustang Enthusiast 01 mustang Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: goose creek Posts: 932	sounds like an awesome plan!! chris kinda scares me with the kind of stuff you gotta watch out for! but if you watching out for it and following some kind of plan, things should work out, as for the girl....after 2 years my girl did that to me, sounds pretty much the same exact way to, but after me and her got through that time, its never been better, just past 4 years being together 5 days ago, just if or when you two get back together, be like, "some shits gotta change, for starters, I'M GONNA MOD MY FUCKEN CAR IF I WANT CAUSE IM BRINGIN IN THE MONEY!!" or something of a lesser tone than that........ __________________ LEAVE REP POINTS WHERE NEEDED!!! 2001 mustang V6 CAI,Tuner,Cobra Rims To come: UDP, T-lok, 3.73, full exhaust setup W/flowmaster 40s, aluminum driveshaft.

September 25th, 2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dgt_mustang

"some shits gotta change, for starters, I'M GONNA MOD MY FUCKEN CAR IF I WANT CAUSE IM BRINGIN IN THE MONEY!

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September 25th, 2008, 09:53 PM

#19

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Originally Posted by dgt_mustang

sounds like an awesome plan!!
chris kinda scares me with the kind of stuff you gotta watch out for! but if you watching out for it and following some kind of plan, things should work out,

as for the girl....after 2 years my girl did that to me, sounds pretty much the same exact way to, but after me and her got through that time, its never been better, just past 4 years being together 5 days ago, just if or when you two get back together, be like, "some shits gotta change, for starters, I'M GONNA MOD MY FUCKEN CAR IF I WANT CAUSE IM BRINGIN IN THE MONEY!!" or something of a lesser tone than that........

if you do things correctly then theres nothing to be scared of rushing into it especially a FIRST motor is a disaster waiting to happen

usually when you try to do things the cheapest way and save the most $$$
you end up spending more
Even one of the big name v6 companys you all know of have made this mistake
trying to make and ultra budget combo for themselves ended up spending more then his marketed rotating assemblies...

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September 26th, 2008, 01:51 AM	#20
justinsstang Enthusiast 1998 Mustang v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Poplar Bluff, Missouri Posts: 749	Chris I'm not trying to save money on the engine, of course I will try to be smart about the parts I buy though. I am not stripping it completely down to the block to rebuild it with cheap parts, every part that has a point in being aftermarket will be aftermarket. When I get to start this I will take my time, and it will take alot of my time. Chris what would in your opinion be the best thing for me to do... building my own engine has been like a shattered dream of mine since I've moved out, but now that I'm advancing so fast at my new job it's piecing back together, without me and my gf splitting up even. How could I learn to do it safely, I do see what you mean, spending all the money for something small to mess up would be terrible... especially if i didn't notice till I got the rest together, then had to strip it back down... then risk messing something else up along the way. Trust me I know what you mean. But with a manual wouldn't it pretty much tell me what to do? And I've always been more of a see it then be able to do it exact, not a book person... but I can do the book thing too if I try. I've thought about going to school for it, but I just don't know if I want to do it for a living, and it would be more of a... just because I want to know how to do it for myself kind of thing. Back to my 4.2L post: I went to a junkyard today, where I seen the other engines at a while back for 250 ea. and they didn't have any 3.8L... they do however have a 1998 and 2001 f-150 4.2L. Problem is, he says they are so hard to come by these days, so he wont take anything less than $1000.00 for it. All I could do was laugh. He told me to try another one up the road who has a LOAD of mustangs, and said the guy loves them and is mostly what he keeps. But then he also said that I'd be lucky to get any engine from there for less than $750. I hope he's wrong but I'm going to go check it out tomorrow. Any opinions on what I should try to do? 3.8L or 4.2L... I really dont wanna spend $1000 on a junkyard engine that I'm not going to use half the parts off of. Thanks guys. __________________ Red '98 Mustang. Custom Dual Exhaust w/ fabbed X pipe. CAI. 17in Black Rims w/ Aluminum Lip. Alpine Head Unit and Type-S speakers in doors and decklid. 600w Bridged BOSS amp to two 12" Audio Bahn Blue Flame Series Subs.