'04 3.8...... What would *you* do?

December 6th, 2006, 10:35 PM

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... how many ttGT do you see around in your town??

i only know of one in my whole city... beastly car... saw it once...

all the other cars round here are just weak sauce V8's

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December 6th, 2006, 11:50 PM	#22
HMUSN Doc 91 Sonic Blue Goodness 19.83 @ 12mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 27,311	i know of one upcoming

December 7th, 2006, 12:16 AM	#23
itschristorres8 SP00LIN V6 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,619	theres one on this site...its like sex but its not a new edge mustang so its like ok sex and not amazing sex __________________ 437rwhp and 402rwtq through a V6 on a stock bottom end

December 7th, 2006, 12:47 AM

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ha awhh damn aight thats cool... i think the sn's look cooler any ways... take your new edge and go cut your self

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December 7th, 2006, 12:48 AM	#25
itschristorres8 SP00LIN V6 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,619	how dare you! lol jk but the TT kits will cost more for a GT though... __________________ 437rwhp and 402rwtq through a V6 on a stock bottom end

December 7th, 2006, 12:51 AM

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more piping more manifold work... more tuning and more parts to install ... Fuck cylinders who needs em... i gotta one cylinder in my garage im thinking about installing... its a 2 stroke with about 5... hundred horse power

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December 7th, 2006, 12:27 PM

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Lmao how many stickers did it come with to get those kind of numbers?

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December 7th, 2006, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HMUSN

i'm just saying for ten grand you can slap a v8 in it and in the end it might be less power that the sixer. but then again the v8 will also last a lot longer than a tt6.

and when you can get some more money throw a tt on the v8

cliffnotes..

TTv6>GT
TTGT>TTV6

okay, but that is like me saying a stock v6 will last longer than a ttv8, kinda like comparing apples to oranges? but boost both and see which one lasts longer, let's take an 05 stang for instance, boost both of them to 10psi and see which one blows the motor first, i bet it is the gt.

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December 7th, 2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 99mustang232

Originally Posted by HMUSN

i'm just saying for ten grand you can slap a v8 in it and in the end it might be less power that the sixer. but then again the v8 will also last a lot longer than a tt6.

and when you can get some more money throw a tt on the v8

cliffnotes..

TTv6>GT
TTGT>TTV6

okay, but that is like me saying a stock v6 will last longer than a ttv8, kinda like comparing apples to oranges? but boost both and see which one lasts longer, let's take an 05 stang for instance, boost both of them to 10psi and see which one blows the motor first, i bet it is the gt.

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December 7th, 2006, 08:37 PM	#30
HMUSN Doc 91 Sonic Blue Goodness 19.83 @ 12mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 27,311	i bet not the 05 GT is a 3v the v6 is only a 2v

December 7th, 2006, 09:28 PM	#31
itschristorres8 SP00LIN V6 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,619	well with stock internals the GT will most likely be over 400hp unless its on 2psi lol the v6 has room before it hits 400hp..thats really the main reason why it'd last longer __________________ 437rwhp and 402rwtq through a V6 on a stock bottom end

December 8th, 2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HMUSN

i bet not the 05 GT is a 3v the v6 is only a 2v

and what does the amount of valves have to do with it? it comes down to piston design, and the rings in the 3v motors are closer to the combustion chamber than previous 2v or 4v 4.6's thus creating an issue when attempting to go over 8psi or so on the stock rotating assembly. this was kinda a trick question but ask any of the 05+ 3v owners and they will tell you that the save zone is 8psi or less and under 500hp or they will be ventilating the block. last time i checked various 4.0L 05 v6's were running 9-11psi on the stock internals without any failures??

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December 8th, 2006, 02:57 PM	#33
HMUSN Doc 91 Sonic Blue Goodness 19.83 @ 12mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 27,311	sure i'll go with that. but think about it this way.. say the "safe zone" is 8psi on a GT and 11psi on a v6. they will both be safe and last a long time without failures right? who you do think would come out on top in that race? 8 psi GT or 11 psi v6? i'm not exact on the formula but i believe it's only around 10-15 HP gains per psi of boost. let go with ten to make it easy. GT 300 hp x 8 psi =380HP. v6 210 hp x 11 psi =320 HP. and these are not RWHP numbers. lets not forget our TQ advantage.

December 8th, 2006, 03:08 PM

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that would come down to a drivers race to be honest.

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December 8th, 2006, 03:39 PM	#35
itschristorres8 SP00LIN V6 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,619	if both were tuned to be at 400rwhp the v6 would win with the same drivers because its a bit lighter __________________ 437rwhp and 402rwtq through a V6 on a stock bottom end

December 8th, 2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by itschristorres8

if both were tuned to be at 400rwhp the v6 would win with the same drivers because its a bit lighter

that i might have to dissagree with man.

TQ plays a major role.

i'm going to check my mail. :wink

December 8th, 2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HMUSN

sure i'll go with that.

but think about it this way.. say the "safe zone" is 8psi on a GT
and 11psi on a v6.

they will both be safe and last a long time without failures right?

who you do think would come out on top in that race?

8 psi GT or 11 psi v6?

i'm not exact on the formula but i believe it's only around 10-15 HP gains per psi of boost.

let go with ten to make it easy.
GT 300 hp x 8 psi =380HP.
v6 210 hp x 11 psi =320 HP.

and these are not RWHP numbers.
lets not forget our TQ advantage.

the math is skewed but the gt would come out on top, a nicely tuned 3v gt running 8psi can net somewhere around 450-470 to the rear wheels. but that wasn't the purpose of our debate, it was a $$$ issue, not only do you have to pay for the f/i kit to boost it, but you also have to pay for the v8 swap... that was my whole point, would be more cost effective to boost the v6 then swap to v8 then boost it, otherwise just trade the sixer in for a gt then boost that.

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December 8th, 2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HMUSN

Originally Posted by itschristorres8

if both were tuned to be at 400rwhp the v6 would win with the same drivers because its a bit lighter

that i might have to dissagree with man.

TQ plays a major role.

i'm going to check my mail. :wink

both make nice tq...theres a v6 with 381rwhp 430rwtq if a GT had the same hp im sure the tq would be right around that area
those are exact dyno numbers off a site with a TT v6.

it would be a drivers race more or less though. i believe its only 100lb difference in the cars. which is what .1 of a seconds...thats all driver right there
money wise the GT is always gunna be more money though but they make more power, even though i havent seen any new edge V6's pushed far enough IMO

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December 8th, 2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Onemanzu

... how many ttGT do you see around in your town??

i only know of one in my whole city... beastly car... saw it once...

all the other cars round here are just weak sauce V8's

check this tt cobra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAcdgLj1_-0

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December 8th, 2006, 11:09 PM	#40
HMUSN Doc 91 Sonic Blue Goodness 19.83 @ 12mph Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 27,311	ehh i'm just bais to v8's i guess. i had a 2001 v6 and a 2001 GT... the GT was far more superior in power in stock trim that my v6 was with intake , full exhaust and 4:10's.