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cam sensor.
ight my car keeps throwing a cam sensor code. p0340 i think it is. so i am just gonna go ahead and replace it. how much would one cost? any one know?
and how hard are they to install? also could i get one from a junk yard for alot less then a new one.
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25 bucks is it the position sensor or the angle
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the position sensor.
now im reading from other sites that it may not be the sensor that it may be a variety of other things. what do you think?
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if it is a position sensor code I doubt it is the cam sensor, more than likly something in the tranny, swap the fluid (and if auto put in a new filter) and see if that fixes it
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why swap the tranny fluid for a cam position sensor code? and where is this filter at on an auto?
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this is the code it is throwing btw OBD-II Trouble Code: P0340 Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit Malfunction
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In the 95-03 OBD-2 ford systems the PCM was wired a bit funky, but alot of times the tranny will throw a cam or speed sensor code, and vise versa. and the little pan on the bottom of your tranny you unscrew that and just pop out the filter ut in a new one and replace the gasket with the new one that comes in the kit. Try to get a cork one.
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it's the cam synchro right below the cam sensor that is what goes bad they are a pain in the ass to do since you need to line up everything just right #1 cyl at tdc and shit like that
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i'll try the tranny fluid first and will def replace the filter if that don't work then i'll be back with some more questions. thanks guys
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yup np if that dont do it, it is probably the synchro like stang tech said
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whats it take to replace the synchro?
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you will need to buy the correct cam position tool and then you will need the haynes manaul since you need to have the engine in the right setting then you need to remove the sensore 2 screws then you attatch the tool and turn it to what the book say then remove and all it's a long proccess and needs to be done to the T. or else you will damage a lot of things.
here is the producer from the ford book Camshaft Position (CMP) Sensor 3.8L Engine SPECIAL SERVICE TOOL(S) REQUIRED Description Tool Number Syncro Positioning Tool 303-562 (T96T-12200-A) Removal Disconnect battery ground cable (14301) . Refer to Section 14-01. Disconnect fuel charging wiring (9D930) from camshaft position sensor (CMP sensor) (12126) . Remove camshaft position sensor retaining screws and camshaft position sensor from camshaft position sensor housing. If removing the synchronizer assembly from the engine front cover (6019) , proceed with Removal Step 5. If the synchronizer assembly is not being removed, proceed to Installation Step 6. CAUTION: Before proceeding, set cylinder No. 1 cylinder to Top Dead Center (TDC) of the compression stroke. Then note the position of the camshaft position sensor electrical connector. The installation procedure requires that the connector be located in the same position. Remove retaining bolt and hold-down clamp (12270) . NOTE: The oil pump intermediate shaft (6A618) should be removed with the synchronizer assembly. Remove the synchronizer assembly from engine front cover . Installation CAUTION: Syncro Positioning Tool 303-562 (T96T-12200-A) must be obtained prior to installation of the replacement camshaft position sensor . Failure to follow this procedure will result in improper camshaft position sensor alignment. This will result in the fuel system being out of time with the engine, possibly causing engine damage. Attach Syncro Positioning Tool 303-562 (T96T-12200-A) on synchronizer assembly and turn it clockwise until tool boss engages notch in synchronizer assembly. The cover tool should be square and in contact with entire top surface of camshaft position sensor housing. Transfer oil pump intermediate shaft from old synchronizer assembly to replacement synchronizer assembly. Install camshaft position sensor housing so that drive gear engagement occurs when arrow on locator tool is pointed as shown in the illustration. This step will locate camshaft position sensor electrical connector in the pre-removal position. Rotate Syncro Positioning Tool 303-562 (T96T-12200-A) slightly clockwise. This will engage oil pump intermediate shaft . Push downward, adjusting Syncro Positioning Tool 303-562 (T96T-12200-A) until the Syncro Gear engages the camshaft gear. Install hold-down clamp and retaining bolt and tighten bolt to 20-30 Nm (15-22 lb-ft). Remove Syncro Positioning Tool 303-562 (T96T-12200-A). CAUTION: If camshaft position sensor electrical connector is not positioned properly, DO NOT reposition the connector by rotating the camshaft position sensor housing. This will result in the fuel system being out of time with the engine, possibly causing engine damage. Remove the camshaft position sensor housing and repeat installation procedure, beginning with Step 1. Install camshaft position sensor . Tighten screws to 4.5-7.9 Nm (40-69 lb-in). Connect fuel charging wiring connector to camshaft position sensor . Connect battery ground cable . Refer to Section 14-01. Camshaft Position Sensor Item Part Number Description 1 303-562 (T96T-12200-A) Syncro Positioning Tool 2 6019 Engine Front Cover 3 12270 Hold-Down Clamp 4 6A618 Oil Pump Intermediate Shaft 5 12A362 Camshaft Position Sensor Housing 6 12126 Camshaft Position Sensor 7 N602704-S Screw (2 Req'd) A — Tighten to 20-30 Nm (15-22 Lb-Ft) B — Tighten to 4.5-7.9 Nm (40-69 Lb-In) 4.6L (2V) and 4.6L (4V) Engines Removal Disconnect battery ground cable . Refer to Section 14-01. Disconnect engine control sensor wiring (12A581) from camshaft position sensor (CMP sensor) (6B288) . Remove camshaft position sensor retaining screw and remove camshaft position sensor from engine front cover . Installation Make sure camshaft position sensor mounting surface is clean and that camshaft position sensor O-ring is properly located on camshaft position sensor . CAUTION: Do not overtighten camshaft position sensor retaining screw or possible damage to camshaft position sensor may occur. Position camshaft position sensor and install retaining screw. Tighten to 8-12 Nm (71-106 lb-in). Connect engine control sensor wiring to camshaft position sensor . Connect battery ground cable . Refer to Section 14-01.
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riddlee josh PM me and i will give you my username and password for the online ford service manual site. there you can see the pics and print out the producerd.
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i hate to say this, but this is a total take it to the shop kinda thing... i had to deal with this when i did my timing cover gasket... was a huge PIITA and i took the car in... if you can afford it, i suggest it
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Onemanzu your right about that one but if he wants to try i will help as much as i can what i wrote above is the ford producer on doing it and i will give him access to the ford site for the pics so that it will help but if you got the cash taking it in is much better
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i'm just saying though... it sucks having a broken car on jack stands for a week instead of a half broken car at a shop for a day...
yea there is a $500 but shit man... keep your options open... see what your parental's say
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If you need to replace the cam position sensor, first try replacing just the electrical part of it which only requires removing a few small bolts.
If the mechanical drive part of it needs to be replaced then you need the correct tool (OTC 6469). The following is one source for it. OTC 6469 Ford Cam Sensor Synch Tool Order#OTC6469 www.TheToolWarehouse.Net If you have the tool all you need to do is turn the crankshaft to get the engine at TDC on #1 cylinder and be sure the tool fits in place on the old mechanical drive. Then it's just like replacing a distributor. The gear on the drive meshes with a gear on the cam and the slotted end goes into the oil pump. The tool keeps the drive correctly aligned. Most likely you only need to replace the electrical part of the cam position sensor. |
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i posted him the producerd above for how to do it.
But it's his call you can try just the sensor and see if that works if not the synch has to be changes
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the sensor is extremely easy to change and shouldnt require the cam tool as long as you dont take it out
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i've also noticed lately that at 3000 rpms the motor hesitates then takes off when im at all out throttle.
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