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Old December 6th, 2006, 04:34 PM   #1
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Some performance mods for my 99 v6?


Alright, i am getting a 99 v6 mustang, and am already planning on getting black cobra r rims, black projector headlights, and some window tint, for cosmetics. For performance im not sure what to get. I dont have enough for a turbo, and dont really want nos, but i was thinking of starting off by getting a Pypes "Beast" catback exhaust, and either an x or an h pipe. Which is better? I want a deep tone and more power. Also would headers be worth the extra money? Will installing them cause problems down the road? I also want to buy a cold air intake, probally from Mac. Also is a programmer worth the high price? Im not too interested in retuning my car, i just want more power and speed. Also about the read gears, what should i get for that, and any other reccomendations?
 
Old December 6th, 2006, 04:41 PM   #2
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x pipe will bring you slightly more (not much) power than the h but the h pipe has a deeper more "muscle" tone to it. for performance. port your heads, get a more agressive camshaft, install a gt take off exhaust system (like 130 bucks from 3.8mustang.com) and headers. and of course the heralded cold air intake kit. and if you're really serious you could step your gears up to 3.73 and install a powertrax trak-lok locking rear differential for ass-kick -potential off the line.
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ok gears go with the 4.10's...they will lower your mpg but not by much its worth it. If you plan on having more than 300 hp get a detroit true-trac instead of a t-lock. Exhaust it depends on how much money you have. If you have a lot then borla is the best if you want cheap then gt take-offs work just fine with an x or h pipe. The cheapest place to buy a MAC intake is www.betterairflow.com and you can use teh coupon code: 38stang.
 
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along with those mods, get some underdrive pullies and some sticky tires.
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I ordered the pypes sfm52 product. The beast system is for gt's They said it flows to much for the 6 cylinder. That I wouldn't have enough back pressure. Research it some before you buy it.
 
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Re: Some performance mods for my 99 v6?????


Originally Posted by 99v6stang
Alright, i am getting a 99 v6 mustang, and am already planning on getting black cobra r rims, black projector headlights, and some window tint, for cosmetics. For performance im not sure what to get. I dont have enough for a turbo, and dont really want nos, but i was thinking of starting off by getting a Pypes "Beast" catback exhaust, and either an x or an h pipe. Which is better? I want a deep tone and more power. Also would headers be worth the extra money? Will installing them cause problems down the road? I also want to buy a cold air intake, probally from Mac. Also is a programmer worth the high price? Im not too interested in retuning my car, i just want more power and speed. Also about the read gears, what should i get for that, and any other reccomendations?
there are a few approaches to the exhaust, really need to figure out your goal early, because you were eyeing poweradders, and if you were to install a set of longtubes then go for a turbo, then you couldn't use the long tubes anymore. there are several ways to tackle the exhaust, is this for a convertible or hardtop, because there are issues with some exhaust setups on verts. need to realize that the v6 motor exhaust note will never sound like a v8, the v6 motor has an even firing order. long tubes are worth the money if you plan on going with a supercharger, or an n/a HCI setup? otherwise you may be happiest with the sound by utilizing a shorty header, hi-flow catted x pipe and mufflers of choice. there are a bunch of exhaust debate threads on this site so do a few searches you can also listen to the sound/vid clips.

the main difference in the cold air intake designs are the materials that they are made of, there are composite intakes such as k&n and demolet. there are metal intakes such as MAC and BBK. the other difference is the filter placement, some like the MAC straightshot place the filter in the engine bay, where as the MAC fenderwell CAI places it in the fender. metal intakes are more prone to heat soak than the composites. however on your year mustang you have a metal upper and lower intake manifold that gets very hot. Personally I chose the MAC fenderwell kit and there is a picture of it in my garage link, but will say that you will want to keep wiping down the chrome or you will have rusting.

gears are taughted as one of the biggest bang for your buck mods, basically you are multiplying your torque to the ground. there are many debate threads on here about gear ratio selection, but my personal opionion is if you are stocking and have an auto go 4.10 and a T5 go 3.73, but if you are blown and auto you will want to go 3.73...so once again you gotta do some pre-planning. another item to discuss is the rear end assembly itself, if you plan on making over 300hp you will want to swap rears with a like year GT or buy a new FRPP 8.8 for around $800 or you will start breaking. if you were to put slicks on the 7.5 it will break the spyder gears.

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I ordered the pypes sfm52 product. The beast system is for gt's They said it flows to much for the 6 cylinder. That I wouldn't have enough back pressure. Research it some before you buy it.

*** How do you like that exhaust?

and as for the person who told me to buy the mac intake from betterairflow.com, there are three mac intakes for my year and model mustang, which do you reccomend? Also no one really mentioned if the programmer was worth the money. And i do not plan on having over 300 horsepower, or getting a turbo, and my car is a hard top, not convertible. I am planning to when its all said and done have: new headers, pypes exhaust sytem with x pipe , new gears (not sure if 3.73 or the 4.10) , mac cold air intake, maybe new underdrive pullies, maybe a programmer if you guys think they are worth it, and thats about it, i dont really want to do any *inside the engine* mods, or anything that would really compromise the reliablility of my car to much. So asuming i did the things listed above, how much horsepower do you think my car would have? I believe they have 180hp stock?
 
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tuning is worth it, there are several options available from hand held tuners to j3 chips, take a look at one of our forum authorized vendors "vmptuning" they offer some of the best v6 tuning products available.

as for cold air intakes, i recommend the fenderwell setups, the MAC kits are also compatible if your vehicle is equipped with the emissions package and has a smog pump in the passenger side fenderwell.

do you have an automatic or manual transmission?
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its an automatic
 
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also, my car has a little over 100,000 miles, and im eventually gonna want to have it overhauled. How much would this cost? Also im not real good with car engines, so help me out on this one, can you bore out the engine like you could on a fourwheeler? Is this common? how much does it cost? Does it change much for performance or reliablility?
 
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Originally Posted by 99v6stang
also, my car has a little over 100,000 miles, and im eventually gonna want to have it overhauled. How much would this cost? Also im not real good with car engines, so help me out on this one, can you bore out the engine like you could on a fourwheeler? Is this common? how much does it cost? Does it change much for performance or reliablility?
stroker + having someone install and everything will be about $3k+....might as well get a brand new 4.2L stroker engine...same price pretty much
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alright, well im going to wait for the engine to fall apart before i replace the engine then. Also i was just looking at rpmout.com
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/newv6m.htm
and i was wondering how accurate are the horsepower ratings? I was thinking of over the next year or so purchasing the bottom 3 kits, and i was wondering how much power this would actually add all together, and if it would hurt or help mileage, and if it would make the car less reliable? Also how hard are each of those items to install? Could i do it myself? If not how much would it cost? And one last thing... a v6 with all those upgrades would be faster than a stock v8 right?
 
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Originally Posted by 99v6stang
alright, well im going to wait for the engine to fall apart before i replace the engine then. Also i was just looking at rpmout.com
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/newv6m.htm
and i was wondering how accurate are the horsepower ratings? I was thinking of over the next year or so purchasing the bottom 3 kits, and i was wondering how much power this would actually add all together, and if it would hurt or help mileage, and if it would make the car less reliable? Also how hard are each of those items to install? Could i do it myself? If not how much would it cost? And one last thing... a v6 with all those upgrades would be faster than a stock v8 right?
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Originally Posted by 99v6stang
alright, well im going to wait for the engine to fall apart before i replace the engine then. Also i was just looking at rpmout.com
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/newv6m.htm
and i was wondering how accurate are the horsepower ratings? I was thinking of over the next year or so purchasing the bottom 3 kits, and i was wondering how much power this would actually add all together, and if it would hurt or help mileage, and if it would make the car less reliable? Also how hard are each of those items to install? Could i do it myself? If not how much would it cost? And one last thing... a v6 with all those upgrades would be faster than a stock v8 right?
you may want to look at the solutions RPM-Mustangs have to offer, like their basic 4.2 longblocks; http://rpm-mustangs.com/cart/product...age=1&featured

as far as the rpm-outlet powerpacks go, you will want to get an ASP underdrive pulley and stay away from the motoblue one, do a few searches on here and you should run across the post from AB99 where his's warped and caused some problems in his car. all of those listed on rpm-outlet are bolt-ons and can be installed with basic handtools and jack/stands.
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Originally Posted by 99v6stang
alright, well im going to wait for the engine to fall apart before i replace the engine then. Also i was just looking at rpmout.com
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/newv6m.htm
and i was wondering how accurate are the horsepower ratings? I was thinking of over the next year or so purchasing the bottom 3 kits, and i was wondering how much power this would actually add all together, and if it would hurt or help mileage, and if it would make the car less reliable? Also how hard are each of those items to install? Could i do it myself? If not how much would it cost? And one last thing... a v6 with all those upgrades would be faster than a stock v8 right?
you may want to look at the solutions RPM-Mustangs have to offer, like their basic 4.2 longblocks; http://rpm-mustangs.com/cart/product...age=1&featured

as far as the rpm-outlet powerpacks go, you will want to get an ASP underdrive pulley and stay away from the motoblue one, do a few searches on here and you should run across the post from AB99 where his's warped and caused some problems in his car. all of those listed on rpm-outlet are bolt-ons and can be installed with basic handtools and jack/stands.
damm thats a good price for a long block! SSMS is like $1k more then that
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