Would changing the cam...

Dansby · October 20th, 2008, 11:46 PM

And chris, I'm sure you get this alot, but what would the average cost of all that, along with things such as an aluminum drive shaft, come up to? And what kind of power could you potentially see?

Dansby · October 21st, 2008, 02:58 PM

Anytime Chris...haha.

04mustang232 · October 21st, 2008, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by jdansby1

Anytime Chris...haha.

he is still adding it up haha

Dansby · October 22nd, 2008, 11:44 PM

Anyone? haha.

minigunner7point62 · October 23rd, 2008, 12:31 AM

heads and cam can go from 1500 to 2000 depending on where you get them from,alds runs about 250 to 3, as far as the other stuff chris mentioned, Im not sure

Dansby · October 23rd, 2008, 12:44 AM

And what kind of power could you make on a n/a fully built engine?

ESG-642T · October 23rd, 2008, 02:40 AM

Not enough for it to be worth the money?
Its a 4.3 not a 347 stroker...

My entire ported heads cam project cost me...
erra... with gaskets and junk... maybe 500$?

But its gonna cost you anywhere 1000 on up...

Oh cam won't kill your gas mileage ... this is 2008 we have these amazing things called tuners, and programmers... However with your foot on the gas, or idling the car for 30min in a parking lot will make it seem like you get 8.5mpg!!

itschristorres8 · October 23rd, 2008, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by jdansby1

And chris, I'm sure you get this alot, but what would the average cost of all that, along with things such as an aluminum drive shaft, come up to? And what kind of power could you potentially see?

If you get it on RPM its like $350-400 for a regrind with springs and push rods and shims

the aluminum driveshafts are like $200

itschristorres8 · October 23rd, 2008, 09:06 AM

just a cam will be about 15-20hp to wheel maybe more.

if you get heads and intakes plus the cam your looking at an easy 50rwhp-65rwhp gain n/a

if you wanted to order a little deal package from me let me know and i'll see what i can do just PM me

Dansby · October 23rd, 2008, 09:18 AM

Sounds good man. I would like to be able to have a solid, well built engine, that makes decent power for the street, then when I take it out to the track, be able to spray upwards of a 150-200 shot with no worries.

ESG-642T · October 24th, 2008, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by jdansby1

Sounds good man. I would like to be able to have a solid, well built engine, that makes decent power for the street, then when I take it out to the track, be able to spray upwards of a 150-200 shot with no worries.

You realize thats going to be more expensive than just boosting right?

04mustang232 · October 24th, 2008, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by SSStang

You realize thats going to be more expensive than just boosting right?

how so?

Dansby · October 24th, 2008, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by SSStang

You realize thats going to be more expensive than just boosting right?

Was not aware of that, haha. Hence to why I asked.

Smoothgrandmama · October 26th, 2008, 08:09 AM

Yes that would cost more than boost. . . . and i dont see you running a anything upwards of a 125 shot without forged internals. and you have to remember nitrous is not a one time cost that stuff is gonna cost anywhere from $3-$5 a lb. over a years time thats alot of money. . . . .

ESG-642T · October 26th, 2008, 11:54 AM

To run a 125 shot...

Your gonna need a forged bottom end, 8.8, your trans may or maynot hold up to that.. of course you'll need the nitrous kit & accessories, and tuning.

You can run 10# of boost on a tlok and stock bottom end.

Dansby · October 26th, 2008, 12:33 PM

Well scratch that idea, haha. It was just a pure question out of curiosity.

itschristorres8 · October 26th, 2008, 02:44 PM

SSMS did a 200shot on a high compression motor and lifted heads no matter what
i think if you went with a 10:1 or 9:39:1(stock) and a 150shot you'd do plenty fine and get in the 11s with out serious weight reduction or serious drag suspension setups

a 200shot and 9:3:1 compression MIGHT be possible with some nicely torque'd down heads of course on ARP head studs
IMO i'd actually torque it to about 115ft lbs which Delk are really the only guys that torque that tight SSMs and RPM torque to 105-110max

if Delk pushed 30psi through the motor and didnt lift the head
im sure a 200shot is possible

i also believe a 125shot and race fuel is possible on a stock bottom
with ARP head studs and h/c/i VERY possible IMO

ESG-642T · October 26th, 2008, 07:24 PM

I would be way more worried about my pistons and RODS with a 125 shot than I would be about lifting a head.

October 23rd, 2008, 12:31 AM	#25
minigunner7point62 Regular 2004 3.8 and love it! Quarter mile, whats a quarter mile? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dallas Posts: 171 iTrader: 0 reviews	heads and cam can go from 1500 to 2000 depending on where you get them from,alds runs about 250 to 3, as far as the other stuff chris mentioned, Im not sure __________________ I don't play well with others!

October 23rd, 2008, 02:40 AM	#27
ESG-642T [8MINUS2] 2002, Ford, v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 12,318 iTrader: 0 reviews	Not enough for it to be worth the money? Its a 4.3 not a 347 stroker... My entire ported heads cam project cost me... erra... with gaskets and junk... maybe 500$? But its gonna cost you anywhere 1000 on up... Oh cam won't kill your gas mileage ... this is 2008 we have these amazing things called tuners, and programmers... However with your foot on the gas, or idling the car for 30min in a parking lot will make it seem like you get 8.5mpg!! __________________ Hi, You can call me Kyle Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular. WTB: v6 BBK valve covers

October 23rd, 2008, 09:06 AM	#29
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	just a cam will be about 15-20hp to wheel maybe more. if you get heads and intakes plus the cam your looking at an easy 50rwhp-65rwhp gain n/a if you wanted to order a little deal package from me let me know and i'll see what i can do just PM me __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

October 26th, 2008, 08:09 AM	#34
Smoothgrandmama Assistant to the Manager 12 GT 8.46@88 1/8 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Willis,Texas Posts: 7,161 iTrader: 6 reviews	Yes that would cost more than boost. . . . and i dont see you running a anything upwards of a 125 shot without forged internals. and you have to remember nitrous is not a one time cost that stuff is gonna cost anywhere from $3-$5 a lb. over a years time thats alot of money. . . . . __________________ Join The MM Facebook: Modded Mustangs Facebook Vote For Modded Mustangs Ride of the Month Eskimo Brothers To Smooth: Safi, Blitz34, Graystang01, WillTheThrill, Bwal, 101Fng

October 26th, 2008, 11:54 AM	#35
ESG-642T [8MINUS2] 2002, Ford, v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 12,318 iTrader: 0 reviews	To run a 125 shot... Your gonna need a forged bottom end, 8.8, your trans may or maynot hold up to that.. of course you'll need the nitrous kit & accessories, and tuning. You can run 10# of boost on a tlok and stock bottom end. __________________ Hi, You can call me Kyle Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular. WTB: v6 BBK valve covers

October 20th, 2008, 11:46 PM	#21
Dansby Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 2,285 iTrader: 1 reviews	And chris, I'm sure you get this alot, but what would the average cost of all that, along with things such as an aluminum drive shaft, come up to? And what kind of power could you potentially see?

October 21st, 2008, 02:58 PM	#22
Dansby Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 2,285 iTrader: 1 reviews	Anytime Chris...haha.

October 22nd, 2008, 11:44 PM	#24
Dansby Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 2,285 iTrader: 1 reviews	Anyone? haha.

October 23rd, 2008, 12:44 AM	#26
Dansby Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 2,285 iTrader: 1 reviews	And what kind of power could you make on a n/a fully built engine?

October 23rd, 2008, 09:18 AM	#30
Dansby Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 2,285 iTrader: 1 reviews	Sounds good man. I would like to be able to have a solid, well built engine, that makes decent power for the street, then when I take it out to the track, be able to spray upwards of a 150-200 shot with no worries.

October 26th, 2008, 12:33 PM	#36
Dansby Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Orange, Texas Posts: 2,285 iTrader: 1 reviews	Well scratch that idea, haha. It was just a pure question out of curiosity.

October 26th, 2008, 02:44 PM	#37
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	SSMS did a 200shot on a high compression motor and lifted heads no matter what i think if you went with a 10:1 or 9:39:1(stock) and a 150shot you'd do plenty fine and get in the 11s with out serious weight reduction or serious drag suspension setups a 200shot and 9:3:1 compression MIGHT be possible with some nicely torque'd down heads of course on ARP head studs IMO i'd actually torque it to about 115ft lbs which Delk are really the only guys that torque that tight SSMs and RPM torque to 105-110max if Delk pushed 30psi through the motor and didnt lift the head im sure a 200shot is possible i also believe a 125shot and race fuel is possible on a stock bottom with ARP head studs and h/c/i VERY possible IMO __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

October 26th, 2008, 07:24 PM	#38
ESG-642T [8MINUS2] 2002, Ford, v6 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TEXAS Posts: 12,318 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would be way more worried about my pistons and RODS with a 125 shot than I would be about lifting a head. __________________ Hi, You can call me Kyle Random ESG fact: Had a prochamber on his v6 before it was popular. WTB: v6 BBK valve covers

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