9k to spend

Blackstang_04 · December 14th, 2006, 04:47 PM

ok so like the title suggest, I am getting about 4k from my grandmother for my 20th birthday and will have about 5 and some change when the summer comes to work on my car. Now I already know there are going to be those that say SELL IT AND GET A GT... well thats just not an option, this car already has about 5k put into it and I dont want to pay for v8 insurance just for the badge. I know the six has got potential just not sure how to go about this.

the performance shop I was talking to kept trying to talk me into getting a junked out GT for like 3k and then swaping everything over that would cost me toal about 6 to 7k. now I know the six can handle ALOT and just takes the knowledge to get it. I probably have too many questions to ask in just one post but basically I want to know whats the best way to go about staying with a six (not necessarily my six but maybe a v6 swap so dont need new mounts and wires) or using the six ive got and build off of it. maybe a list would be better.

1. Is the 3.8 block i have a good foundation to start from?
2. should I go with a 4.2L or 4.3L from some place like SSM
3. what all else aside from just motor can I do with this much

now I already have the following mods: (not everything is ofcourse a performance mod)

4:10 gears with T-Loc
CAI
droped 2.5 in
18" rims
Saleen body kit
Cobra R hood
Tinted 20%
Dash mounted tac w/ shift light
true duel exhaust

Please dont flame this post with the "just get a v8" responces, I already know that I am not willing to do that more then likely

thanks in advance for any help given it is much apreciated
sorry forgot to list that it is a 04 3.8L 5 speed

Luvdmustang · December 14th, 2006, 04:55 PM

well i doubt anyone here will flame you. btw, i wanna see your car. well u already said u arent getting ride of the v6. id suggest getting it bored and stroked, new heads, tb,cam, maybe a new driveshaft.... just look around on the vendor links and u might find something u like

Blackstang_04 · December 14th, 2006, 05:00 PM

I got pics of my car just got to find my way around the site to link them,

im still mostly resarching to get a exact list of what to do to the car but for the most part was thinking a stage 3 powerpack from SSM, LT ceramic headers, and if i can find a good place to stroke it out to a 4.2L

not sure on exacts but with install I was thinking that would cost me maybe about 7k?

Luvdmustang · December 14th, 2006, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Blackstang_04

I got pics of my car just got to find my way around the site to link them,

im still mostly resarching to get a exact list of what to do to the car but for the most part was thinking a stage 3 powerpack from SSM, LT ceramic headers, and if i can find a good place to stroke it out to a 4.2L

not sure on exacts but with install I was thinking that would cost me maybe about 7k?

wow. u know what u want, thats good. dont stray from what you want though. but yea, to get some pics up, on your sig like me, go to www.tinypics.com and click upload. when the codes upload copy the one that says bulliten. then come back here, click on profile and right click and paste.

Blackstang_04 · December 14th, 2006, 05:07 PM

here are the pics hope they show up, can only add one at a time I sappose

Luvdmustang · December 14th, 2006, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Blackstang_04

here are the pics hope they show up, can only add one at a time I sappose

im glad to say that, this mustang, is probably one of the coolest ive seen on this site

Blackstang_04 · December 14th, 2006, 05:11 PM

thanks, the rims are robra R (sorry forgot to list them in mod list) and about 6 months ago got a new sound system and viper alarm put in, not sure if i have pics of the dash since i put it in but if not i can run out and take some.

Luvdmustang · December 14th, 2006, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Blackstang_04

thanks, the rims are robra R (sorry forgot to list them in mod list) and about 6 months ago got a new sound system and viper alarm put in, not sure if i have pics of the dash since i put it in but if not i can run out and take some.

well damn, dont sell it and get a gt. just mod the hell out of it

Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo · December 14th, 2006, 05:16 PM

With more info on what exactly you want to do and have the capability to do i can tell you more exactly, but im sure further post will clear that up.

First off why do you have a dash mounted tach??!! im sorry i mean a dash mounted tachy (sorry, had to get that out of my system)

I seems to me that you already know a bit. Yes the essex block is strong and a good platform.

If i wanted to build the ultimate v6 mustang for myself i would do this:

-get a 4.3L with a cam from ssm
-port 'n polish it
-fab a kick ass intake mani with other random better than stock parts for the intake assembly
-get a 11psi kit from procharger if i dont decide to TT it(what i would rather do for obvious hp and tuning reasons)
-strip all unnecessary accessories
-get a 8.8 rear and strengthen/mod it
-do what ever suspension mods and tire/wheel mods for it it needs foir what it will do
-tune it however the best way a could
-take out back seat so i can carry my race stuff in it

it would have about 500hp s/c and possible a whole lot more if t/c

Blackstang_04 · December 14th, 2006, 05:22 PM

ok the kicker of it all is this will still be a daily driver, now i know by doing all this i will suffer in mpg, but still need it street legal and hopfully start at or above 15mpg lol

basic outcome is hopefully agble to either stay with or beat a stock 04 cobra (that might be a big stretch) or atleast a modded gt if i can.

Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo · December 14th, 2006, 05:26 PM

with a turbo and proper tuning, theoretically you should be able to 'turn off' the boost adding quite a bit to gas milage, and with the FI cam on a "n/a" or low boost car, i think you should be within the accepable range for mpg. though id imagine it wont be all that great, but hell'uv a lot better than an old muscle car. Maybe some body who know what a stroked essex is like will chime in.

but why the dash mounted tach man?

Blackstang_04 · December 14th, 2006, 05:35 PM

ok well it seems for whatever reason now its saying my pics are too big so illjust make a photobucket account i guess and post the link.

Blackstang_04 · December 14th, 2006, 05:37 PM

oh as for the tach, was not my choice, came with the car from the previous owner, i dont really care for it but nor do i really want to stare at the 2 big holes it will have if i take it out, its kinda the lesser of 2 evils i guess. been trying to figure a good way to get rid of it but performance is up on the table now and looks is basically done for the most part till the car has a bit more bite.

Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo · December 14th, 2006, 05:39 PM

also, might i add in addition to the tach, that you will also catch grief for your "saleen" windshield banner on a car that is not a saleen, a quick fix would be a "MODDEDMUSTANGS.COM" windshield banner.

edit: snuck it in on me there. Yeah i see your point about the holes, but im sure we'll find a way to remedy that.

btw, your car does look good. And you wouldnt happen to have emissions testing by any chance, cause that would suck.

Blackstang_04 · December 14th, 2006, 05:45 PM

she passes emmissions fine its the tint that i have to jump through hoops with, the Saleen stickers came with the kit and it did not seem right to have the kit and not put them on, besides even if its not a saleen once im done with it she should be close to or as fast as one if all goes well

Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo · December 14th, 2006, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Blackstang_04

she passes emmissions fine its the tint that i have to jump through hoops with, the Saleen stickers came with the kit and it did not seem right to have the kit and not put them on, besides even if its not a saleen once im done with it she should be close to or as fast as one if all goes well

true, but if you stay with us I think a MM stick sould be in order. It will look just a good and would be more acurate. (and advertising too, lol)

what i meant by emissions testing is that if you do have to do it it will severely limit your mod potential for a streetable car unless you find ways to "cheat."

Blackstang_04 · December 14th, 2006, 05:56 PM

well lets jsut say ive found ways to have that tint for over a year...

and for the sticker i am not apposed to a diff winshield oen but how would i take care of the ones on the side skirts without haveing to repaint?

Blackstang_04 · December 14th, 2006, 06:05 PM

finished uploading the pics to photobucket, these are all from the day after I bought the car and cleaned and waxed it, she sadly rarly stays that cleen since black is a @%&@ to keep cleen but looks oh so nice when it is.

http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r178/BlackStang_04/

Youngin · December 14th, 2006, 08:35 PM

nice car i know you dont wanna hear it but you should sell it to me and buy a GT =] wow whats with the saleen stickers everywhere lol

Stang6899 · December 14th, 2006, 08:45 PM

have you posted on 3.8mustang.com also? lol im flake6899 from mustangforums

December 14th, 2006, 04:47 PM	#1
Blackstang_04 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 reviews	9k to spend ok so like the title suggest, I am getting about 4k from my grandmother for my 20th birthday and will have about 5 and some change when the summer comes to work on my car. Now I already know there are going to be those that say SELL IT AND GET A GT... well thats just not an option, this car already has about 5k put into it and I dont want to pay for v8 insurance just for the badge. I know the six has got potential just not sure how to go about this. the performance shop I was talking to kept trying to talk me into getting a junked out GT for like 3k and then swaping everything over that would cost me toal about 6 to 7k. now I know the six can handle ALOT and just takes the knowledge to get it. I probably have too many questions to ask in just one post but basically I want to know whats the best way to go about staying with a six (not necessarily my six but maybe a v6 swap so dont need new mounts and wires) or using the six ive got and build off of it. maybe a list would be better. 1. Is the 3.8 block i have a good foundation to start from? 2. should I go with a 4.2L or 4.3L from some place like SSM 3. what all else aside from just motor can I do with this much now I already have the following mods: (not everything is ofcourse a performance mod) 4:10 gears with T-Loc CAI droped 2.5 in 18" rims Saleen body kit Cobra R hood Tinted 20% Dash mounted tac w/ shift light true duel exhaust Please dont flame this post with the "just get a v8" responces, I already know that I am not willing to do that more then likely thanks in advance for any help given it is much apreciated sorry forgot to list that it is a 04 3.8L 5 speed

December 14th, 2006, 04:55 PM	#2
Luvdmustang Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: silent hill Posts: 1,281 iTrader: 0 reviews	well i doubt anyone here will flame you. btw, i wanna see your car. well u already said u arent getting ride of the v6. id suggest getting it bored and stroked, new heads, tb,cam, maybe a new driveshaft.... just look around on the vendor links and u might find something u like __________________

December 14th, 2006, 05:16 PM	#9
Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 462 iTrader: 0 reviews	With more info on what exactly you want to do and have the capability to do i can tell you more exactly, but im sure further post will clear that up. First off why do you have a dash mounted tach??!! im sorry i mean a dash mounted tachy (sorry, had to get that out of my system) I seems to me that you already know a bit. Yes the essex block is strong and a good platform. If i wanted to build the ultimate v6 mustang for myself i would do this: -get a 4.3L with a cam from ssm -port 'n polish it -fab a kick ass intake mani with other random better than stock parts for the intake assembly -get a 11psi kit from procharger if i dont decide to TT it(what i would rather do for obvious hp and tuning reasons) -strip all unnecessary accessories -get a 8.8 rear and strengthen/mod it -do what ever suspension mods and tire/wheel mods for it it needs foir what it will do -tune it however the best way a could -take out back seat so i can carry my race stuff in it it would have about 500hp s/c and possible a whole lot more if t/c __________________ God... That Euro import guy is really starting to get on my nerves... my car can only beat his in a strait line(maybe)

December 14th, 2006, 05:26 PM	#11
Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 462 iTrader: 0 reviews	with a turbo and proper tuning, theoretically you should be able to 'turn off' the boost adding quite a bit to gas milage, and with the FI cam on a "n/a" or low boost car, i think you should be within the accepable range for mpg. though id imagine it wont be all that great, but hell'uv a lot better than an old muscle car. Maybe some body who know what a stroked essex is like will chime in. but why the dash mounted tach man? __________________ God... That Euro import guy is really starting to get on my nerves... my car can only beat his in a strait line(maybe)

December 14th, 2006, 05:39 PM	#14
Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 462 iTrader: 0 reviews	also, might i add in addition to the tach, that you will also catch grief for your "saleen" windshield banner on a car that is not a saleen, a quick fix would be a "MODDEDMUSTANGS.COM" windshield banner. edit: snuck it in on me there. Yeah i see your point about the holes, but im sure we'll find a way to remedy that. btw, your car does look good. And you wouldnt happen to have emissions testing by any chance, cause that would suck. __________________ God... That Euro import guy is really starting to get on my nerves... my car can only beat his in a strait line(maybe)

December 14th, 2006, 05:00 PM	#3
Blackstang_04 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 reviews	I got pics of my car just got to find my way around the site to link them, im still mostly resarching to get a exact list of what to do to the car but for the most part was thinking a stage 3 powerpack from SSM, LT ceramic headers, and if i can find a good place to stroke it out to a 4.2L not sure on exacts but with install I was thinking that would cost me maybe about 7k?

December 14th, 2006, 05:11 PM	#7
Blackstang_04 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 reviews	thanks, the rims are robra R (sorry forgot to list them in mod list) and about 6 months ago got a new sound system and viper alarm put in, not sure if i have pics of the dash since i put it in but if not i can run out and take some.

December 14th, 2006, 05:22 PM	#10
Blackstang_04 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok the kicker of it all is this will still be a daily driver, now i know by doing all this i will suffer in mpg, but still need it street legal and hopfully start at or above 15mpg lol basic outcome is hopefully agble to either stay with or beat a stock 04 cobra (that might be a big stretch) or atleast a modded gt if i can.

December 14th, 2006, 05:35 PM	#12
Blackstang_04 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok well it seems for whatever reason now its saying my pics are too big so illjust make a photobucket account i guess and post the link.

December 14th, 2006, 05:37 PM	#13
Blackstang_04 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh as for the tach, was not my choice, came with the car from the previous owner, i dont really care for it but nor do i really want to stare at the 2 big holes it will have if i take it out, its kinda the lesser of 2 evils i guess. been trying to figure a good way to get rid of it but performance is up on the table now and looks is basically done for the most part till the car has a bit more bite.

December 14th, 2006, 05:45 PM	#15
Blackstang_04 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 reviews	she passes emmissions fine its the tint that i have to jump through hoops with, the Saleen stickers came with the kit and it did not seem right to have the kit and not put them on, besides even if its not a saleen once im done with it she should be close to or as fast as one if all goes well

December 14th, 2006, 05:56 PM	#17
Blackstang_04 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 reviews	well lets jsut say ive found ways to have that tint for over a year... and for the sticker i am not apposed to a diff winshield oen but how would i take care of the ones on the side skirts without haveing to repaint?

December 14th, 2006, 06:05 PM	#18
Blackstang_04 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 41 iTrader: 0 reviews	finished uploading the pics to photobucket, these are all from the day after I bought the car and cleaned and waxed it, she sadly rarly stays that cleen since black is a @%&@ to keep cleen but looks oh so nice when it is. http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r178/BlackStang_04/

December 14th, 2006, 08:35 PM	#19
Youngin Hip Hop Artist Byebye V6~ Welcome Home New Pony :P Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Californ-i-A Posts: 6,535 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	nice car i know you dont wanna hear it but you should sell it to me and buy a GT =] wow whats with the saleen stickers everywhere lol __________________ ItaliStang Made.. Maybe Red But Makes One Hell Of A Sig http://www.myspace.com/moddedmustangz Modded Mustang's Song

December 14th, 2006, 08:45 PM	#20
Stang6899 Hardcore Enthusiast Modded V6 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mukilteo WA Posts: 1,445 iTrader: 1 reviews	have you posted on 3.8mustang.com also? lol im flake6899 from mustangforums

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