supercharging the 3.8

faux_leopard · December 21st, 2006, 01:43 AM

So I've been doing alot of research on this topic, mostly on using supercoupe/m90 supercharger parts.

Where should I start? What all should I get ahold of other than the supercharger itself? Oh and has anyone done this sucessfully?? I dont see why not, but to start I'm at a loss....

thanks ahead of time!

97TunedMustang · December 21st, 2006, 01:48 AM

I think 2 or 3 people on this site have done the m90 swap. from what ive heard its not easy and you have to like create an intake manifold by some means since none exhist that will bolt right up to the 3.8 motor for the m90. Someone probably tomorrow will be able to give you more specifics. Id search the threads though cause their are a few already out their that discuss just this swap your looking into.

itschristorres8 · December 21st, 2006, 01:27 PM

m90 u need over 40 other parts with it....have fun

go with procharger

kerry · December 21st, 2006, 05:04 PM

so yea, its pretty much a bitch. u loose things like cruse control and re routeing AC lines.
take a look at this site and ull forget all about it.

http://www.v6power.net/vb/showthread.php?t=5716

GotBoost232 · December 21st, 2006, 11:11 PM

i dont think the m90 swap works on 99+ but i went with procharger and had it set up in about a weekend and got a tune...im taking it up to buffalo "torque from new york" shop and im going to get $20 dollar dyno runs( there my friends) to help everything i will try to get copys of the dyno sheets to post up and pics so i let u guys know

Cricket · December 21st, 2006, 11:11 PM

it doesnt work with the 99+ unless if they feel like swapping for a single port setup.

GotBoost232 · December 21st, 2006, 11:12 PM

yeah that was it lol and that just adds more work to it lol

faux_leopard · December 21st, 2006, 11:58 PM

wow that link was really helpful... I guess if I want to do this project the key is just a sc motor, seeing how the stock sc block/pistons/crank and a few other interals are a little stronger.

so would you guys rather buy a stock sc motor and swap out the parts needed or procharge it?

(either option so far is about the same amount +/- $50 shipped)

Onemanzu · December 22nd, 2006, 12:13 AM

... if you procharge it you will have to rebuild your engine... sooner or later that is... it might last for a few months... but if you lower the boost

Brianzeke007 · December 22nd, 2006, 12:57 AM

vortech is the way to go

itschristorres8 · December 22nd, 2006, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by GotBoost232

i dont think the m90 swap works on 99+ but i went with procharger and had it set up in about a weekend and got a tune...im taking it up to buffalo "torque from new york" shop and im going to get $20 dollar dyno runs( there my friends) to help everything i will try to get copys of the dyno sheets to post up and pics so i let u guys know

you have a procharger on your v6?
if so how much psi?
n how do you like it?
ive only seen v6ers with vortech
ive always heard and seen that procharger puts out better numbers though, but it also cost more

Ninjawafers! · December 22nd, 2006, 01:10 AM

i saw a 99 6er with a procharger in cali when i was stationed there.. damn that was a sweet ride... i bought my flow's off him lol... but it sounded sweet as hell and it was really fast... he had the car for sale.. i wonder what happened to it? it was red with black w/ chrome lip rims, black widow body kit, black widow hood, and stock wing... annd the wing was painted black and there was a black graphic on the hood... it was sooo freakin sweet... i wish i would of had the money to buy it

GotBoost232 · December 22nd, 2006, 10:24 PM

lol its at 7 psi....ive decided come this spring i will rebuilding the engine deffinently....it only took a weekend to install but im stupid for not building up my engine but oh well i like the power i get from the s/c....even tho my friends cobalt ss s/c is a tough challnge basically who ever gets a better start or doesnt miss a gear will win...lol...and the vortech isnt intercooled...the propcharger is....couldnt find an easy route to put an intercooler on the vortech so yeah...go with procharger

GreenFaleen · December 23rd, 2006, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by GotBoost232

lol its at 7 psi....ive decided come this spring i will rebuilding the engine deffinently....it only took a weekend to install but im stupid for not building up my engine but oh well i like the power i get from the s/c....even tho my friends cobalt ss s/c is a tough challnge basically who ever gets a better start or doesnt miss a gear will win...lol...and the vortech isnt intercooled...the propcharger is....couldnt find an easy route to put an intercooler on the vortech so yeah...go with procharger

A 99 running 7 psi you should be handing that cobalt his ass. What kind of tune do you have in it?

GotBoost232 · December 23rd, 2006, 12:50 AM

SCT Xcal 2 is what it has...i think the buffalo guys want to make this car compete with harry's 03 cobra...lol so there giving me real good deals, so i basically got a shop...3hrs away..lol i beat him but barely...

04musclestang · December 23rd, 2006, 12:56 AM

you panzy... your engine is all jacked up or that cobalts got mods! at 7 i was thinking youd be at like 235rwhp and like a boat load of torque! maybe you forgot to connect the pipes to the engine =P you been running N/A all day! that and you need to rebuild the beast with a stage 3 powerpak and some forged internals upgrade to 11psi and fuel pump form gt40 supercar and 41lb injectors and youll stomp everything! cept.. the..

TERMINATOR

! (everyone gasps)

GotBoost232 · December 23rd, 2006, 01:00 AM

idk never dynoed....but its boosting i can you that much...he has to get a perfect launch too tho for me to barely win...normally in the quarter i run lik a 14.3 he runs 14.4's and wieghs a shit load less... hes at 12.5 psi..im at about 7-7.5 and im at 98k miles...lol

04musclestang · December 23rd, 2006, 01:07 AM

omg 12.5... how the hell he musta upgraded i know chevy didnt just say hey.. lets put a stage 5 supercharger on a 4 banger lol he tinkered.. so your good dude his shits weak dont let him lie to you lol your cars a beast his = panzy!

oh yeah and for me.. just for me and you i mean.. rebuild your engine to be stronger for that s/c cuz sooner or later ESPECIALLY with that many miles it is gonna blow

GreenFaleen · December 23rd, 2006, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by GotBoost232

idk never dynoed....but its boosting i can you that much...he has to get a perfect launch too tho for me to barely win...normally in the quarter i run lik a 14.3 he runs 14.4's and wieghs a shit load less... hes at 12.5 psi..im at about 7-7.5 and im at 98k miles...lol

Yeah your engine is probably stressed as hell. Cause I can scare the ss cobalts and I'm not putting down near the numbers you are.

GotBoost232 · December 23rd, 2006, 01:12 AM

lol im forging the lower end come spring and porting and polishing it along with gt takes offs....im putting it up for winter after i pull the dyno runs come this weekend and pulling out the ol 00 chevy blazer cuz im predicting snow coming here in ny soon

December 21st, 2006, 01:43 AM	#1
faux_leopard Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	supercharging the 3.8 So I've been doing alot of research on this topic, mostly on using supercoupe/m90 supercharger parts. Where should I start? What all should I get ahold of other than the supercharger itself? Oh and has anyone done this sucessfully?? I dont see why not, but to start I'm at a loss.... thanks ahead of time!

December 21st, 2006, 01:48 AM	#2
97TunedMustang Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 965 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think 2 or 3 people on this site have done the m90 swap. from what ive heard its not easy and you have to like create an intake manifold by some means since none exhist that will bolt right up to the 3.8 motor for the m90. Someone probably tomorrow will be able to give you more specifics. Id search the threads though cause their are a few already out their that discuss just this swap your looking into. __________________ 95 Civic Ex, FnF1's, Morimoto Mini h1 retrofit, GSR, bbk intake, BDL tb, 57trim t3/t4 8psi, 297whp 96 Civic Ex 2dr, G3 HID retrofit, FnF type 1's, Si cluster, Obd1 Z6 swap

December 21st, 2006, 01:27 PM	#3
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	m90 u need over 40 other parts with it....have fun go with procharger __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

December 22nd, 2006, 12:13 AM	#9
Onemanzu ¡ʇsnq ɹo uʍop ǝpısdn Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Looking for free hand jobs in poland springs nebraska... silly gooses Posts: 12,551 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	... if you procharge it you will have to rebuild your engine... sooner or later that is... it might last for a few months... but if you lower the boost __________________ My Foz

December 22nd, 2006, 01:10 AM	#12
Ninjawafers! muneris pro ego 97 5.0 Exploder AWD snow has nuthin on me Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kodiak, AK Posts: 7,379 iTrader: 1 reviews	i saw a 99 6er with a procharger in cali when i was stationed there.. damn that was a sweet ride... i bought my flow's off him lol... but it sounded sweet as hell and it was really fast... he had the car for sale.. i wonder what happened to it? it was red with black w/ chrome lip rims, black widow body kit, black widow hood, and stock wing... annd the wing was painted black and there was a black graphic on the hood... it was sooo freakin sweet... i wish i would of had the money to buy it __________________ Buy my M90 Kit and my Gears and T-Loc! MM ZDC - Alaska Base Commander MM+ Cleavage Club #24 MM Cares Crew / Military Crew M2C2 President / USCG - OS2

December 21st, 2006, 05:04 PM	#4
kerry Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 487 iTrader: 0 reviews	so yea, its pretty much a bitch. u loose things like cruse control and re routeing AC lines. take a look at this site and ull forget all about it. http://www.v6power.net/vb/showthread.php?t=5716

December 21st, 2006, 11:11 PM	#5
GotBoost232 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: watkins glen , new york Posts: 535 iTrader: 0 reviews	i dont think the m90 swap works on 99+ but i went with procharger and had it set up in about a weekend and got a tune...im taking it up to buffalo "torque from new york" shop and im going to get $20 dollar dyno runs( there my friends) to help everything i will try to get copys of the dyno sheets to post up and pics so i let u guys know

December 21st, 2006, 11:12 PM	#7
GotBoost232 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: watkins glen , new york Posts: 535 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah that was it lol and that just adds more work to it lol

December 21st, 2006, 11:58 PM	#8
faux_leopard Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	wow that link was really helpful... I guess if I want to do this project the key is just a sc motor, seeing how the stock sc block/pistons/crank and a few other interals are a little stronger. so would you guys rather buy a stock sc motor and swap out the parts needed or procharge it? (either option so far is about the same amount +/- $50 shipped)

December 22nd, 2006, 12:57 AM	#10
Brianzeke007 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 402 iTrader: 0 reviews	vortech is the way to go

December 22nd, 2006, 10:24 PM	#13
GotBoost232 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: watkins glen , new york Posts: 535 iTrader: 0 reviews	lol its at 7 psi....ive decided come this spring i will rebuilding the engine deffinently....it only took a weekend to install but im stupid for not building up my engine but oh well i like the power i get from the s/c....even tho my friends cobalt ss s/c is a tough challnge basically who ever gets a better start or doesnt miss a gear will win...lol...and the vortech isnt intercooled...the propcharger is....couldnt find an easy route to put an intercooler on the vortech so yeah...go with procharger __________________ stock 04 blue mach 1

December 23rd, 2006, 12:50 AM	#15
GotBoost232 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: watkins glen , new york Posts: 535 iTrader: 0 reviews	SCT Xcal 2 is what it has...i think the buffalo guys want to make this car compete with harry's 03 cobra...lol so there giving me real good deals, so i basically got a shop...3hrs away..lol i beat him but barely... __________________ stock 04 blue mach 1

December 23rd, 2006, 12:56 AM	#16
04musclestang Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 573 iTrader: 0 reviews	you panzy... your engine is all jacked up or that cobalts got mods! at 7 i was thinking youd be at like 235rwhp and like a boat load of torque! maybe you forgot to connect the pipes to the engine =P you been running N/A all day! that and you need to rebuild the beast with a stage 3 powerpak and some forged internals upgrade to 11psi and fuel pump form gt40 supercar and 41lb injectors and youll stomp everything! cept.. the.. TERMINATOR ! (everyone gasps) __________________ I beat a GT he says I wasted my money on a v6. I beat a Mach 1 he says I only won cause he's stock. I beat a Cobra.. well, needless to say he isn't talking, he's just pissed.

December 23rd, 2006, 01:00 AM	#17
GotBoost232 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: watkins glen , new york Posts: 535 iTrader: 0 reviews	idk never dynoed....but its boosting i can you that much...he has to get a perfect launch too tho for me to barely win...normally in the quarter i run lik a 14.3 he runs 14.4's and wieghs a shit load less... hes at 12.5 psi..im at about 7-7.5 and im at 98k miles...lol __________________ stock 04 blue mach 1

December 23rd, 2006, 01:07 AM	#18
04musclestang Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 573 iTrader: 0 reviews	omg 12.5... how the hell he musta upgraded i know chevy didnt just say hey.. lets put a stage 5 supercharger on a 4 banger lol he tinkered.. so your good dude his shits weak dont let him lie to you lol your cars a beast his = panzy! oh yeah and for me.. just for me and you i mean.. rebuild your engine to be stronger for that s/c cuz sooner or later ESPECIALLY with that many miles it is gonna blow __________________ I beat a GT he says I wasted my money on a v6. I beat a Mach 1 he says I only won cause he's stock. I beat a Cobra.. well, needless to say he isn't talking, he's just pissed.

December 23rd, 2006, 01:12 AM	#20
GotBoost232 Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: watkins glen , new york Posts: 535 iTrader: 0 reviews	lol im forging the lower end come spring and porting and polishing it along with gt takes offs....im putting it up for winter after i pull the dyno runs come this weekend and pulling out the ol 00 chevy blazer cuz im predicting snow coming here in ny soon __________________ stock 04 blue mach 1

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