[C MY 4D]

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG you think he copies a part and sells it as his??? how ignorant are you??? if you werent so damn lazy and did some damn research, you find out what other brands are actual gms parts. gms makes the parts, paints them a different coler, and puts a different sticker on. you think the 7-8 other companies that sell gms control arms with a different sticker make a difference? how about the plenum that is "too cheap" on their website, but others buy it from another company that advertises it as another brand without complaints. the only other difference i see from the other company that uses gms as the maker is what kind of bushing is put it, what color it is, and how its advertised.

Start naming some of these brands then......

[acmillr]

Has anyone noticed that the OP actually has his rear sway bar removed from the car. I would say that may have something to do with why his shit is all twisted up.

[SWEET2KSTANG]

Originally Posted by C MY 4D Start naming some of these brands then......

why? will just lead to more arguements. people run those products and have no issues.

[C MY 4D]

Originally Posted by acmillr Has anyone noticed that the OP actually has his rear sway bar removed from the car. I would say that may have something to do with why his shit is all twisted up.

LMAO... lack of a rear sway bar will not do that.

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG why? will just lead to more arguements. people run those products and have no issues.

I figured you couldn't name any.

[acmillr]

Originally Posted by C MY 4D LMAO... lack of a rear sway bar will not do that.

Explain me this.......

[SWEET2KSTANG]

Originally Posted by C MY 4D I figured you couldn't name any.

why you think that??? i know, no need to be a smart ass and try to start shit over this.

[C MY 4D]

What is there to explain you are the one that made the comment. Explain to us how not running the rear sway bar will do that.
First off the sway bar mounts in front of the spring. What bent these arms is a combination of axle wrap and spring pressure.

[acmillr]

Originally Posted by C MY 4D What is there to explain you are the one that made the comment. Explain to us how not running the rear sway bar will do that. First off the sway bar mounts in front of the spring. What bent these arms is a combination of axle wrap and spring pressure.

Side to side drift could easily twist the LCA's to cause this type of lateral structure failure.

[Jazzer The Cat]

Everyone here should find out more information BEFORE bashing these parts OR Granatelli

Go and read ***HERE*** to find out the reason why they failed. You may not like Granatelli parts and that is fine, but should not take JUST the OP's word as the whole truth. There are TWO sides to every story and you all jumped on one side and did not investigate the other. Unless Granatelli is flat out lying, the parts were MODIFIED by removing supports and therefore, not the responsibilty of Granatelli to replace/repair them.

Can anyone say Richard Jewell?

Jazzer HATES when his pepes don't do their homework

[SWEET2KSTANG]

Originally Posted by Jazzer The Cat Everyone here should find out more information BEFORE bashing these parts OR Granatelli Go and read ***HERE*** to find out the reason why they failed. You may not like Granatelli parts and that is fine, but should not take JUST the OP's word as the whole truth. There are TWO sides to every story and you all jumped on one side and did not investigate the other. Unless Granatelli is flat out lying, the parts were MODIFIED by removing supports and therefore, not the responsibilty of Granatelli to replace/repair them. Can anyone say Richard Jewell? Jazzer HATES when his pepes don't do their homework

sorry

[TexasMade]

Originally Posted by acmillr Side to side drift could easily twist the LCA's to cause this type of lateral structure failure.

By looking at these they should be twice as strong side to side as they are in the normal position. Oh and I seriously doubt that shit anyway. Mustangs have 4 control arms. As of now I could care less. I could've stop all this years ago, by just doing a search on his name. On any other site i have posted this on nothing good is said about him or his company, unless he is registered, and gets his BFF's to chime in

[TexasMade]

Originally Posted by Jazzer The Cat Everyone here should find out more information BEFORE bashing these parts OR Granatelli Go and read ***HERE*** to find out the reason why they failed. You may not like Granatelli parts and that is fine, but should not take JUST the OP's word as the whole truth. There are TWO sides to every story and you all jumped on one side and did not investigate the other. Unless Granatelli is flat out lying, the parts were MODIFIED by removing supports and therefore, not the responsibilty of Granatelli to replace/repair them. Can anyone say Richard Jewell? Jazzer HATES when his pepes don't do their homework

I wonder whay anyone would jump to conclusions when they hear about a POS GMS product failing??? I guess everyone is just so used to it by now that they just all assume it was his shitty craftmanship.

[acmillr]

Originally Posted by TexasMade By looking at these they should be twice as strong side to side as they are in the normal position. Oh and I seriously doubt that shit anyway. Mustangs have 4 control arms. As of now I could care less. I could've stop all this years ago, by just doing a search on his name. On any other site i have posted this on nothing good is said about him or his company, unless he is registered, and gets his BFF's to chime in

I don't know any of these guys and don't care who does business with each other. I was just simply pointing out that this failure was caused by more than just bad design or poor craftsmanship. On your point about the side loading, you are extremely incorrect. W, H, and I beams are designed to take load against the flanges of the assembly and are relatively weak when loaded towards the side of the flanges. Just by looking at the pictures of the bottom of your car, I can tell that you have limited time invested in performing reasonable checks to your suspension components- which may be another cause of this particular failure. In truth, it would be hard to say what actually caused the failure, but I would have to assume that there is a little more going on here than just a poorly designed product (if it was a product design problem at all).

[Granatelli]

All due respect. The easy way out is to blame the manufacture. All GMS ever asked for was a receipt. Why not just be honest?

[Jazzer The Cat]

Originally Posted by TexasMade I wonder whay anyone would jump to conclusions when they hear about a POS GMS product failing??? I guess everyone is just so used to it by now that they just all assume it was his shitty craftmanship.

YOU are assuming shi**y craftsmanship and just about EVERYONE is taking your word as gospel.

According to Granatelli, there are missing parts that would account for this failure.

If this proves to be true, will you go back to all the websites and correct the bad info you've been spreading???? I doubt it, but even if you did, the damage is done!

I have no interest in backing Granatelli, I have intrest in the truth. If Granatelli is outright lying about the parts he says are missing, than so be it, and let him dig himself a hole. I must say, he could help is own cause by upping a pic of these parts and what it would look like installed in the LCA's

Jazzer

[C MY 4D]

Originally Posted by acmillr Side to side drift could easily twist the LCA's to cause this type of lateral structure failure.

The upper control arms control side to side movement.

Originally Posted by Jazzer The Cat YOU are assuming shi**y craftsmanship and just about EVERYONE is taking your word as gospel. According to Granatelli, there are missing parts that would account for this failure. If this proves to be true, will you go back to all the websites and correct the bad info you've been spreading???? I doubt it, but even if you did, the damage is done! I have no interest in backing Granatelli, I have intrest in the truth. If Granatelli is outright lying about the parts he says are missing, than so be it, and let him dig himself a hole. I must say, he could help is own cause by upping a pic of these parts and what it would look like installed in the LCA's Jazzer

Granatelli has been known for shitty crasftmanship wether it is control arms that aren't the same length or k-members cracking.

[SWEET2KSTANG]

and more people are know to lie, mess up on installation, and damn near everyone blames the manufacture.

again, the other companies that are gms products with a different name has no issue. no "different length control arm" etc.

[C MY 4D]

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG and more people are know to lie, mess up on installation, and damn near everyone blames the manufacture. again, the other companies that are gms products with a different name has no issue. no "different length control arm" etc.

I understand where you are coming from. I have seen my fair share of parts that haven't been installed correctly. But there is still an issue with their quality control. I am sure that they get lucky and do it right atleast half of the time or they would have been out of business a long time ago.
Granetelli lower control arm=JUNK. Anybody? - Corral Forums

[HBK_2007]

Originally Posted by Jazzer The Cat YOU are assuming shi**y craftsmanship and just about EVERYONE is taking your word as gospel. According to Granatelli, there are missing parts that would account for this failure. If this proves to be true, will you go back to all the websites and correct the bad info you've been spreading???? I doubt it, but even if you did, the damage is done! I have no interest in backing Granatelli, I have intrest in the truth. If Granatelli is outright lying about the parts he says are missing, than so be it, and let him dig himself a hole. I must say, he could help is own cause by upping a pic of these parts and what it would look like installed in the LCA's Jazzer

couldnt agree more

[cliffyk]

JR is a lying ass, a couple years ago I offered to help them--for free--work on/complete/whatever the Fuego PC software (which I was told was "in the works"), and the next thing I know he's putting forth that I had tried to sell them something and because they refused I was pissed...

He's a lying sack of crap, their products are of inconsistent quality, and their "support" is a joke...