[1FastFox]

As for throttle bodies, there are guys putting over 800 hp to the ground and still running the stock throttle body and mass air. Ford engineered those two itiems nicely... Only 1 out of every 10 or so can run throttle bodys ( aftermarket ) with no issues, no clue why, but they do... BTW I still didnt see the price on those intakes...

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by 06GTMustang89 yeah how much is the one for the 4.6 29.2hp out of just an intake with no custom tune is amazing....my K&N only makes 15rwhp by itself hahah

I don’t think I am getting my point across properly, When you purchase our intake, it does come custom tuned. However unlike all the rest, we can tune direct to the MAF electronics and what you get or do with a Diablo is the exact same thing. The only difference being they have to go through the ALDL connecter and we don’t have to. Also we include it in the price and Diablo wants the extra 399 for the tuner.

Originally Posted by 06GTMustang89 how much is the 62mm throttle body?? Is the throttle body streetable unlike the BBK?? This is my DD so i'm just making sure i’m very interested in all this..

Originally Posted by 06GTMustang89 Whoahhh nvm 591$$ when I can get my Xcal2 re-calibrated for free and get a JLT Intake and have the same numbers for 199$$ I am interested in the 62mm throttle body though please enlighten us on that subject

$591 – that is suggested Retail – cool your jets turbo we got every ones back

The GT500 T-body with all the stuff you need to install it is $389.00 – It is fine for a DD car and has NO ISSUE AT ALL the is a fact and a promise Fo-Show

[1FastFox]

Ok, we do understand about how you guys program it so you dont have to use a programmer, but what about the rest of the mods. People have tunes from bama and brenspeed that put your numbers to shame and they are suppose to what, sell their tuner and tune packages so they can buy some junk ass intake? BTW, You can get a C&L or JLT ( both better than granatelli ) with a tune package ( better than granatelli ) for a little more than you asking and it comes with good customer service. And you may ask why Im all over you ass here, thats cause Im one of the people that you guys screwed and never took care of...

[leebunnyz]

Originally Posted by 1FastFox Ok, we do understand about how you guys program it so you dont have to use a programmer, but what about the rest of the mods. People have tunes from bama and brenspeed that put your numbers to shame and they are suppose to what, sell their tuner and tune packages so they can buy some junk ass intake? BTW, You can get a C&L or JLT ( both better than granatelli ) with a tune package ( better than granatelli ) for a little more than you asking and it comes with good customer service. And you may ask why Im all over you ass here, thats cause Im one of the people that you guys screwed and never took care of...

OWNED

[HMUSN]

Originally Posted by 1FastFox And you may ask why Im all over you ass here, thats cause Im one of the people that you guys screwed and never took care of...

so why don't you hash it out in the proper section?
Vendors Forum

[1FastFox]

I have done all I can do w/ them. Now Im taking upon myself to warn people of Granatelli...

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by leebunnyz I heard through the grape vine that Granatelli products are a POS. what do you have to say to that Granatelli?

Originally Posted by 1FastFox +1

Originally Posted by 1FastFox Do your research here fellows, if you search through the threads you will find that people w/ S197s have had nothing but issues from Granatelli products...

And so we begin…The thread is turning into a bashing session all of a sudden. Granatelli has been a trusted name in the industry for over 45 years. We DO TAKE CARE of our customers and the overwhelming majority loves us and our products. 75% of the BS on the internet about GMS is a by-product of ex Granatelli employee that were paid to police the boards as “Granatelli” employee that is. They were defensive when they did not need to be and when I jumped into to save it there was so much SPAM out there I got caught up in the same web. This is the new J.R. Granatelli and it is really me. If you think our product is a POS I am sorry for that. I think our products speak volumes for themselves – Our S197 line is BAD ASS and no expense was ever spared when we designed it. – Our CIA intake has been copied by several other companies but no one can copy the calibration software. Calling Granatelli stuff a POS is like saying Diablo, Paxton, and Aeromotive all make POS parts as well as I was instrumental in making all of them what they are. I owned Paxton from 1992 to 98 and created the Novi-2000 from scratch. I co created Aeromotive in 1992 and gave up my connection in 1998 as part of the sale of Paxton. Aeromotive when on to be a great company and I would like to think my expert tutelage had something to do with it. Diablo went from a small start up to a flourishing business under my sales direction as well.

My point is not to honk my own horn but to sight examples of my past and by surrounding myself with quality people and quality companies I think I have proven that. I am sure some will agree

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by HMUSN so why don't you hash it out in the proper section? Vendors Forum

Some people can't help themselves.

[1FastFox]

OK JR. In the time I have been with this forum there have been four ( maybe five JR Granatellis to come along ). Truth of the matter is I dont care if your JR, George Bush, Michael Shumaker, ect... You can come on here and list your accomplishments and whatnot but it still doenst change the fact that your company is extreemly overrated by your past work. I used to have some of your products on my 91, then bought one for my 06, which didnt work with my car for some odd reason ( and yes I have ford tech expierence so I know what Im doing ), so I called you guys up and said that there was something wrong with you product. Im not sure who has more excuses you guys or ricers as to why their cars arent running 10 sec 1/4s that night. In the long run I ended up having to eat the cost and leave it at that. So your customer service is as lousy as your products. I would not advise anyone to buy from you gus as your competitors have much better products at more reasonable prices and better customer service, and last time I checked those are the three things that make a business...
While were quoting people here are a few... ( do a search on granatelli for more, I also think they cover just about all your "quality" parts )
Mass Air Meter
Don't Buy Granatelli!
Aftermarket coil packs!!!
Fuego Flash Tuner is it worth buying???
Ignition Coil Packs
need new shit

[07 procharger]

ok ok....so I buy your intake and strap it on....I now have to pull my predator tuner out and sell it....So im happy, I get 29 rwhp with your product. Now I want to change gears or CMDP'S or headers without o2 sensors...see where im going, our tuners allow us to recalobrate our cars...by simply picking up the phone and having new tunes e-mailed to us. So you wont find many ppl here wanting to part with their tuner cai combo's

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by 07 procharger going either way..what do you mean...man is it me or is it like tough getting answers from this guy....maybe its me? Okay My 93 octane tune and your intake does it equal 29 rwhp??? yes or no???

Sorry Sir – I assume you understood. What I mean is this. If you have a Predator and the tune is installed – while installing it asks you if you have an aftermarket CAI. If you say no – then install my product with calibrated MAF electronic then it all works and you are golden. Or the other way is to install your factory slot in maf into my tube and use the Predator to do the tune

Originally Posted by 1FastFox Grana- If your intake has a recalibrated mass air then his tune for an intake wont run right because the intake will be compensated for twice...(once with the tune and once with your recalibrated mass air ). Also how much is this intake?

This statement above is 100% spot on – I hope I did a better job explaining the 2nd time. The intake is on special for $275 complete or $190 with no MAF (like a C&L or JLT)

Originally Posted by 07 procharger that’s what I was getting at Fast fox ...thanks

Did I do a better job above – if not let me know – I am not trying to talk over anyone

Originally Posted by 1FastFox As for throttle bodies, there are guys putting over 800 hp to the ground and still running the stock throttle body and mass air. Ford engineered those two itiems nicely... ...

This statement is misleading and totally inaccurate. My s197 make 640 at the tire so you could argue it must be making 750 at the crank. I do that with stock cylinder heads, stock cams and stock cam spockets. That does not mean if I ported the heads and put bigger cams in it and advanced the cam timing that it would not make more power at a lower boost though. Telling people you can make 800 with a stock t-body is not germane to the convo and misleading. Thinking you can make 800 with the stock MAF is not possible. If they don’t have my stuff they must have a MAFia or something like it which alters the MAF signal

Originally Posted by 1FastFox Only 1 out of every 10 or so can run throttle bodies ( aftermarket ) with no issues, no clue why, but they do... BTW I still didn’t see the price on those intakes...

Wrong again Ronald – perhaps 1 out of every 10 using BBK but not our set up. We have zero returns on our t-body upgrade - NOT 1! If someone has an issue all they need to do is call – so far NO CALLS on T-body

Originally Posted by 1FastFox People have tunes from bama and brenspeed that put your numbers to shame and they are suppose to what, sell their tuner and tune packages so they can buy some junk ass intake? ...

Is that a question? All due respect it sounds to me like you are letting your heart control your fingers. You are bashing but only making yourself look bad – I am not here to fight with you I just want to sell parts and make everyone happy.

Originally Posted by 1FastFox BTW, You can get a C&L or JLT ( both better than Granatelli ) with a tune package ( better than Granatelli ) for a little more than you asking. ...

Again not true

Originally Posted by 1FastFox And you may ask why I’m all over you ass here, thats cause Im one of the people that you guys screwed and never took care of...

Like I said you’re not thinking straight IMO

[07 procharger]

Okay i got it now....but you would recomend taking my tune out and running you intake and MAF?

[1FastFox]

First off, please dont type in black it makes it difficult to read. Im not going to quote ever line like you did cause it takes up too much space. But if you read in 5.0 there is a 06 GT with a procharger and spray that is putting 818 to the wheels still rolling on the stock ( unmodified ) throttlebody and Mass air. When I come into work tomarrow I will scan the article and post it up here if you would like. As for how you said you have had 0 phone calls on your throttle body, thats a blantant lie and if you are in fact JR you would know that cause I know 3 people ( local to S.Indiana ) that have bought your throttle bodys and not had them work for them, so they called in and told you guys there problem, and your rep said that you were re-engineering it because of the know issue ( sound familiar ), two of the guys wanted their money back, which you gave them minus the 20% restocking fee ( which ended up being like $80-100 ). The other one is still waiting on a throttle body that functions on his car... As for the intake $380 ( thats the number I got from your rep and that for the cheaper one ( satin I believe ) ) for the one with the mass air. why not spend the extra 100 for more horsepower and better service through brenspeed or Bama?

[07GTCONV]

I don't think Granatelli really makes any of it's stuff. I tried one of their Diesel tuners acouple of years ago and it was GRADE A crap! Their tech support sucked, they actually sent me to Bully Dog because they couldn't make the tune work. Burned once, learned forever.

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by 1FastFox First off, please dont type in black it makes it difficult to read. Im not going to quote ever line like you did cause it takes up too much space. But if you read in 5.0 there is a 06 GT with a procharger and spray that is putting 818 to the wheels still rolling on the stock ( unmodified ) throttlebody and Mass air. When I come into work tomarrow I will scan the article and post it up here if you would like. As for how you said you have had 0 phone calls on your throttle body, thats a blantant lie and if you are in fact JR you would know that cause I know 3 people ( local to S.Indiana ) that have bought your throttle bodys and not had them work for them, so they called in and told you guys there problem, and your rep said that you were re-engineering it because of the know issue ( sound familiar ), two of the guys wanted their money back, which you gave them minus the 20% restocking fee ( which ended up being like $80-100 ). The other one is still waiting on a throttle body that functions on his car... As for the intake $380 ( thats the number I got from your rep and that for the cheaper one ( satin I believe ) ) for the one with the mass air. why not spend the extra 100 for more horsepower and better service through brenspeed or Bama?

More misinformation - all misquoted to paint a picture in your favor. I can't spend hours educating you on how a meter works and what it takes to make 818 at the tire. the stock unaltered MAF signal can't go that high

There has never been a 20% restock fee on a product that does not work, Plus we have a 1 year warranty on the t-body. The ony way your story holds water is if the customer has the part for over a year. - My word is my bond - 0 (zip - nanda) no returns on our GT500 t-body conversion -

$380 this, plus 100 that? - so you are saying the other guys want $480 for a C&L with a tune versus our unit for $275 - that is $200 more and it does not make more power. C&L already tried this scam with Bama a year or so ago. They claimed the C&L flowed like 4 cfm more. It was a joke that know one took seriously.

I guess you got what you wanted though - you got people reading about what a spammer you are and to forget about what a super deal this is So I will say it again

This statement above is 100% spot on – I hope I did a better job explaining the 2nd time. The intake is on special for $275 complete or $190 with no MAF (like a C&L or JLT)

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by 07GTCONV I don't think Granatelli really makes any of it's stuff. I tried one of their Diesel tuners acouple of years ago and it was GRADE A crap! Their tech support sucked, they actually sent me to Bully Dog because they couldn't make the tune work. Burned once, learned forever.

a few years ago Granatelli and Bully Dog were one in the same. I have always maintained that Granatelli does private brand work for several companys. We make Diesel parts for several companys that claim to be the Manufacture. For you to say your Granatelli did not work but your Bully Dog did is like saying your LS1 Camaro engine had a problem so you installed a LS1 Trans-am engine.....it is the same thing. Gale Banks made diesel parts for Edge. Diablo made flash tools for Banks. Hell Honda makes the engines for the Saturn. Mazda mini trucks are Rangers. Rangers have Mazda transmissions. The Ford MAF is made by Hitachi.Spam away.

I always make myself available. Unlike most others I don't hide behind a fake name

In closing the reason why i have not been on this site in a long time is because the keyboard cowboys come out in droves. I am not here to fight I am here to help people and sell parts in possible.

Put a C&L tube side by side with a BBK and tell me what is the difference - they are different but look a lot a like - so what - stop crying

[tsp_2177]

is there any v6 stuff? i think that question got lost in all of the arguing...

[Granatelli]

Originally Posted by tsp_2177 is there any v6 stuff? i think that question got lost in all of the arguing...

Yes

[06RedfireGT]

tsp I sent you a PM

[tsp_2177]

you've got one too lol