drag race, GT500 vs Camaro SS

menace07 · October 8th, 2009, 05:39 PM

truth.

IloveMYcar · October 8th, 2009, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

PS, the gt500 did crush that camaro. the camaro had a car on the gt500 and it came back around it to beat it be two car lenghts. So much for the insane top end of the LS engine.

I hate when ppl compare the regular ss to the gt500.... why dont u just compare the escort to the corvette

and the hennessey IS faster then the gt500, they picked it b.c of the ride quality.

BTW I am not bashing the gt500 in any way... I LOVE that car...

tbi0904 · October 8th, 2009, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by IloveMYcar

I hate when ppl compare the regular ss to the gt500.... why dont u just compare the escort to the corvette

and the hennessey IS faster then the gt500, they picked it b.c of the ride quality.

BTW I am not bashing the gt500 in any way... I LOVE that car...

The hennessey is also an aftermarket car. It's a close comparison, but it's not the same thing. I do agree with you 100% about comparing the SS to the GT500. Not a fair comparison. I do disagree with the narrator of the vid. I don't know ONE Mustang owner that's bitched about the SS having a 6.2L. It is what it is. It was no different in the Fox days with GM putting in a 5.7L engine to compete with Ford's 5.0L (because their 5.0 sucked big balls). It is nice having the Camaro around again. It's got a good history and is a nice rival to the Mustang. Hope it sticks around (and the Challenger).

07stanggt · October 8th, 2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by IloveMYcar

I hate when ppl compare the regular ss to the gt500.... why dont u just compare the escort to the corvette

and the hennessey IS faster then the gt500, they picked it b.c of the ride quality.

BTW I am not bashing the gt500 in any way... I LOVE that car...

Why shouldnt you compare the SS to the gt500? Right now its the top of the line camaro compared to the top of the line mustang? Fuck price? When and if another camaro comes out that is the top of the line then compare away.

When my car was new it was 27,000 and it damn sure got compared to a 35k nissan 350 and a sti and evo etc etc etc.

Oh well who cares.

Here this is fair, compare a ss camaro with a 6.2lt which will cost more then 32k loaded to a gt with a 4.6 and the camaro barely beats it. I have said it for 20 years and chevy proves it once again, inch for inch they can not compete with ford.

06RedfireGT · October 8th, 2009, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

Why shouldnt you compare the SS to the gt500? Right now its the top of the line camaro compared to the top of the line mustang? Fuck price? When and if another camaro comes out that is the top of the line then compare away.

When my car was new it was 27,000 and it damn sure got compared to a 35k nissan 350 and a sti and evo etc etc etc.

Oh well who cares.

Here this is fair, compare a ss camaro with a 6.2lt which will cost more then 32k loaded to a gt with a 4.6 and the camaro barely beats it. I have said it for 20 years and chevy proves it once again, inch for inch they can not compete with ford.

+1

MT sucks dick at driving.

The GT500 rapes the Camaro. The Camaro is barely faster than the GT. The 2011 Stangs are going to rape the Camaro in a straight line, and in the twisties.

Spiderz · October 9th, 2009, 04:31 AM

I think everyone has missed the best thing about this. It's the return of the pony wars boys. All this means is the cars are going to get faster and the prices will hopefully fall some as Ford, Chevy, ( and if Dodge sticks around ) compete for that guy out there looking to buy him a muscle car that he remembers from his childhood.

Competition is good, it only makes you better.

IloveMYcar · October 9th, 2009, 08:36 AM

Let The Games Begin

pharmd · October 9th, 2009, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by 07stanggt

Why shouldnt you compare the SS to the gt500? Right now its the top of the line camaro compared to the top of the line mustang? Fuck price? When and if another camaro comes out that is the top of the line then compare away.

When my car was new it was 27,000 and it damn sure got compared to a 35k nissan 350 and a sti and evo etc etc etc.

Oh well who cares.

Here this is fair, compare a ss camaro with a 6.2lt which will cost more then 32k loaded to a gt with a 4.6 and the camaro barely beats it. I have said it for 20 years and chevy proves it once again, inch for inch they can not compete with ford.

Wow...you must really hate the camaro.

I like the GT500, very nice car for all it does, the new one is even better than previous generation...its closing the gap on the vette...

I'd still take a Terminator over the GT500 though

As far as the SS vs the GT you must be looking at 0-60 times, at 130mph the GT is like 12 seconds behind...12 seconds is like BUS Giga-buslengths.

I guess you've seen this video too....

YouTube - Camaro 2010 vs Shelby GT500 2008

IloveMYcar · October 9th, 2009, 06:50 PM

^^ love that whine. Nice vid. So what car do you like better? Ride quality and performance??

M.P. Cobra Fan · October 9th, 2009, 08:09 PM

I love anything with wheels, but that camaro sounds like shit!!!!!

pharmd · October 9th, 2009, 08:31 PM

Camaro don't handle for crap, its waaay too soft. But being that people on these boards never
Leave anything stock I don't guess it matters. I mean, if you want fast AND warranty buy a
Tuner car or a GT500. Otherwise it really doesn't matter and it becomes about looks,
Exclusivity and brand loyalty. Either of these cars can be modded to be killers, so its all really
About who has the most $$$ in the end.

The basic Mustang GT can sure be a looker though, so much after market support
With suspension, wheels and groundeffects/bodykits they are hard to beat.

tbi0904 · October 10th, 2009, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by pharmd

Camaro don't handle for crap, its waaay too soft. But being that people on these boards never
Leave anything stock I don't guess it matters. I mean, if you want fast AND warranty buy a
Tuner car or a GT500. Otherwise it really doesn't matter and it becomes about looks,
Exclusivity and brand loyalty. Either of these cars can be modded to be killers, so its all really
About who has the most $$$ in the end.

The basic Mustang GT can sure be a looker though, so much after market support
With suspension, wheels and groundeffects/bodykits they are hard to beat.

Very true. I'm pretty loyal to Mustangs but I can sure as hell appreciate a well built Camaro or any musclecar...even an import or two. Btw, what are the mods on that yellow Camaro?

pharmd · October 10th, 2009, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by tbi0904

Very true. I'm pretty loyal to Mustangs but I can sure as hell appreciate a well built Camaro or any musclecar...even an import or two. Btw, what are the mods on that yellow Camaro?

from youtube looks like drag radials, full exhaust, and blower.

BlackedOut04GT · October 10th, 2009, 08:45 AM

What i love is that Road and Track along with Car and Driver, both say that a 2010 Mustang GT is better then a Camaro SS. They both say that the Mustang out handles and brakes the Camaro. IMO if you are going to compare a Mustang to a Camaro, do top end model to top end model and also base to base. Only way to do it.

IloveMYcar · October 10th, 2009, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by BlackedOut04GT

What i love is that Road and Track along with Car and Driver, both say that a 2010 Mustang GT is better then a Camaro SS. They both say that the Mustang out handles and brakes the Camaro. IMO if you are going to compare a Mustang to a Camaro, do top end model to top end model and also base to base. Only way to do it.

Yeah I agree about base - base and top end - top end... The mustang has more out for it right now and handles better but the camaro is a little faster... (STOCK). I dont even know which one I would choose outta 2010+ models... probably the GT

pharmd · October 10th, 2009, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by BlackedOut04GT

What i love is that Road and Track along with Car and Driver, both say that a 2010 Mustang GT is better then a Camaro SS. They both say that the Mustang out handles and brakes the Camaro. IMO if you are going to compare a Mustang to a Camaro, do top end model to top end model and also base to base. Only way to do it.

I get the handling thing...but if you look here braking is identical...
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...040c16c364.pdf

If you look at the powertrain chart, and check acceleration figures, I really would doubt that a GT would beat an SS on a road course either. It would have to be a short course with lots of turns and short straights that minimize speed, other than that, the 'stang's handling advantage couldn't make up for its lack of speed.

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...650bbb926b.pdf

With aftermarket suspensions it would be really interested to re-test these cars and see who comes out the victor...both have and will continue to have a very strong aftermarket.

IloveMYcar · October 10th, 2009, 02:54 PM

Pharmd, do you have pics of your SS?

pharmd · October 10th, 2009, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by IloveMYcar

Pharmd, do you have pics of your SS?

Unfortunately it is fairly stock appearing right now. Can't afford to do a proper wheel/tire setup, my suspension stuff will be here in around 3 weeks, so stock height for now. I have a few little exterior touches, like blacked out bowtie, and some flat black accents here and there, a few emblem deletes. Eventually I want to add a carbon fiber hood, front lip, trunk, rear diffuser and maybe flat black spoiler (or CF). At some point I have to upgrade the tranny, add a converter, new DS and CV axles, forge the shortblock, up the boost etc etc. I'll end up with WAY WAY WAY too much money in a 30K car. I'd be better off selling it and buying a 4th gen for 10K and modding it, cheaper parts, lighter car etc.

Here are a couple quick video's just playing around...

YouTube - MTI Camaro Fun Fest Video 1

YouTube - 2010 Camaro SS "Acceleration"

One from the Track...We still haven't made a full pass yet, you can listen to the motor as I leave the line, I'm not going WOT in 1st gear (notice it short shifts), and having issues with the TC kicking in around the 1000ft mark resulting in total loss of power (due to me running 18's vs 20's and not re-tuning for it).

YouTube - PharmD 2010 Camaro Sept 4th Track 5...

slow91fox · October 11th, 2009, 02:59 AM

07stang had nothing to say about that car lol very nice pharmD

Ace417 · October 14th, 2009, 07:41 PM

that new camaro sounds like straight up shit

October 8th, 2009, 05:39 PM	#21
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Spiderz Regular 1965 Coupe, 351w Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sedalia Missouri Posts: 174	I think everyone has missed the best thing about this. It's the return of the pony wars boys. All this means is the cars are going to get faster and the prices will hopefully fall some as Ford, Chevy, ( and if Dodge sticks around ) compete for that guy out there looking to buy him a muscle car that he remembers from his childhood. Competition is good, it only makes you better. __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ff/Spiderz.gif

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IloveMYcar Regular 2004 GT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 390	^^ love that whine. Nice vid. So what car do you like better? Ride quality and performance?? __________________ ~2004 Mustang GT 40th ~2006 636 kawasaki ninja

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October 9th, 2009, 08:31 PM	#31
pharmd Newbie 2007 TBSS, 2010 Camaro SS 11's @ 126 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: KY Posts: 6	Camaro don't handle for crap, its waaay too soft. But being that people on these boards never Leave anything stock I don't guess it matters. I mean, if you want fast AND warranty buy a Tuner car or a GT500. Otherwise it really doesn't matter and it becomes about looks, Exclusivity and brand loyalty. Either of these cars can be modded to be killers, so its all really About who has the most $$$ in the end. The basic Mustang GT can sure be a looker though, so much after market support With suspension, wheels and groundeffects/bodykits they are hard to beat.

October 10th, 2009, 08:45 AM	#34
BlackedOut04GT Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 14.61@96.03 2.159 60' (Was my first/best pass. So far.) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maynard, MA. Posts: 769	What i love is that Road and Track along with Car and Driver, both say that a 2010 Mustang GT is better then a Camaro SS. They both say that the Mustang out handles and brakes the Camaro. IMO if you are going to compare a Mustang to a Camaro, do top end model to top end model and also base to base. Only way to do it. __________________ Black Stang Crew #7

October 10th, 2009, 02:54 PM	#37
IloveMYcar Regular 2004 GT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 390	Pharmd, do you have pics of your SS? __________________ ~2004 Mustang GT 40th ~2006 636 kawasaki ninja

October 11th, 2009, 02:59 AM	#39
slow91fox Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 6	07stang had nothing to say about that car lol very nice pharmD

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