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The George Forman of Keepers
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Venting your hood scoop
I'll spare you the reasons why I felt compelled to do this and let you figure it out. But if you really want to know, do a search on this site for "over heating" and read through the first 5 billion threads and it will begin to make sense. In the Florida heat and humidity, I need every bit of "cooling" possible. This project is basically free and is satisfying because you will notice a difference. It works two different ways. First, it rams air into the scoop and down over the engine block at speed. Second, it allows heat to escape up through the top of the hood in stop and go traffic.
Before you go any further... I take no responsibility for you doing this to your car! I like doing stuff like this because Im a hillbilly! Your on you own and I dont make your car payment so may the force be with you. Its a relatively straight forward project but who knows what you could mess up. First- Make sure you have some simple supplies. Drill 1/2 or smaller bit swatch of screen the size of the front of the scoop Tape (I use metalized HVAC tape because it holds really good and can be "molded easily) High quality paint if you want to paint the honeycomb Push pins for the hood insulation in case you break some needle nose plyers plyers masking tape if youre going to paint ![]() I did this to may car two years ago. I have LED's in some of the holes. I needed to replace the lights. So some of these things have been previously done so bare with my photos and descriptions. Being that I did this 2 years ago, I can attest to it working and working well. Ive never had water in the engine or anything like that. I've never had a problem. so first you want to take the underhood insulation off. Real easy. Just pull the push pins out. You may break a few thats why I suggest having a few on hand to replace any broken ones. ![]() Just take and set the insulation off to the side. This will expose the pins that hold the scoop on. Use the needle nose plyers to take the bolts off. The washers are connected to the bolts (just a heads up) Remove all of them. ![]() Now you can gently let the hood down off the hood support. Pull the scoop off the hood. Put it aside for now. ![]() Next the fun part. You need to get your big boy pants on and get over the fact that your about to drill a hole in your hood. Use a good bit! You want a clean hole. Line the holes up along the TOP of the raised section of hood. You can see in my picture. The reason for putting them along the top is to help keep water out. Drill a few holes in there.I have no data to say how many. I have about 13 or so. I wouldn't put too many as to compromise the integrity of the hood. But then again, it probably wouldn't hurt anything considering where they are and the material your hood is made out of at that spot. ![]() ![]() Next, clean up the mess! I vacuum all the dust from the top and all the debris that gets on the engine. While your at it, clean off the area under the scoop! I know its dirty as hell. ![]() what you need to do now is open the hood and put the insulation back in place with a few of the black push pins. Just enough to hold it in place for a second. Then take a magic marker and put it through the holes you just drilled in order to "mark" the insulation. Put a mark in each hole. Now, take the insulation back out and cut out the area of the insulation you just marked. I just cut a good sized rectangle on it. This will let the air in. ![]() Next you'll need to start on the scoop. Its easier to work on if you lay it on its top. I lay it on an old pillow because Im nuts about it scratching. Its kind of "rounded" so it tends to want to slide around. Putting it on a towel or pillow will keep it still and keep it from getting fudged up. What you need to do is find a bit that you can use to drill out some of the holes in the black honeycomb. I started by just drilling a few. Over time, I've added more holes. I have alot of them drilled out now. BE CAREFULL when selecting which ones to open up. Look at the backside real close to make sure your not drilling through anything important on the backside. There are little supports and soforth and you dont want to drill through those. Once you've drilled some holes, you can screen the back. Cut the screen to fit the back side. It can be tricky but if you take your time, you can get a great fit. You'll have to make "slits" here and there to allow the screen to fit right against some of the plastic supports. Dont worry, you'll see what Im talking about and common sense will help you out. Now that you have the screen cut nice and neat, you can secure it. I use the HVAC metal tape because it stick really good and is weather proof. Its held my screen in for 2 years and has never came lose one single time. This takes a little patience but is worth doing well. Its probably the most time consuming step. The first time I did this it took me about 30 minutes to complete. Dont worry if it looks ugly because nobody can see it. Making sure its secure is more important. ![]() ![]() Next is the paint step if your going to paint it. I find the best way to paint it is tape it up with masking tape and cover everything with plastic.Over spray will ruin your day so take your time and tape it up right. Also, make sure you cover the screws with tape so you don't paint your threads and make for a hell of a time getting the bolts back on (I did it the first time I did this) ![]() ![]() Adding lights is a whole other write up. Its tricky to get it right. If you want info on it let me know and I can help. Otherwise, this is done. Let the paint dry and put it back together the way you took it apart. Now if you can cruise around town shooting squirrels with your slingshot and your engine will stay a little cooler. ![]()
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!FACEPLATED!
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I actually did this to mine, well sort of. I cut out the whole opening(where the screen would be on the V6 hood). And used my hot iron and cut the honeycomb support out of the scoop so its a straight thru shot. Then made a support that utilizes the center mounting screw in the front to keep the scoop from lifting while driving(the plastic is to flexible. Next I plan on glassing the bottom side of the hood to route air down to the air filter box to make the scoop functional.
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The George Forman of Keepers
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Nice! When you do... take some pics and write it up! I thought about it but I seen too many problems routing the air around to my TB. Id like to see how you solve some of those issues. Id definately do it if it could be done right.
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!FACEPLATED!
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I will. I already have everything planned up. I"ll have to cut the support on the passenger side of the hood but it should stiffen back up after I reglass the air duct into the hood.
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To get the air back up front to the intake would be a bitch. Im dying to see how you do this. I hope it works!!!!! |
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Actually i bought a jlt ram air intake just for this purpose. Im going to build an aluminum air box with a hole on the and use a weatherstrip sort of like the ones that are used around doors and the air will be routed to this location and when the hood is shut the seal will seal directly to the hood preventing hot engine air from getting into the filter. there will also be a shield over the top of the filter and a small drain hole out the bottom of the box to prevent any water from getting into the filter that may come through will driving in the rain
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Its not going to be easy. Im going to have to make a lot of templates and fab up some duct work to glass into the hood. Ill end up doing it over the winter so I can take the hood off and work on it.
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Thats the way my FIPK is set up. Its "boxed" and on the top is a 1 inch think ring of foam. when I close the hood, it seals the box. So I can visualize that part.
My biggest concern with Fabbing a RAM setup would be water. Its so hard to tell if you can control the water until after its built. I suppose it could be modeled after other RAM systems. I was watching HorsePower TV once and they were showing an instal of exhaust "dumps". They had a really cool system that consisted of a servo motor and a round metal plate that simply open and closed by a remote switch. I wondered if that would be a solution to combat heavy rain. Sort of a diversion when the rain comes down hard. This way you wouldnt need to be concerned with draining and the air path would be 100% efficient without leaks while creating more pressure in the intake. When I built that cheap RAM off the front bumper (GF's deal) it was so eay and I felt the difference at higher speeds. This project is worth thinking about for sure. I know this... if you could find an easy way to build these things, there would be alot of buyers... |
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As far as heavy rain i dont drive mine to much in the rain. but what i thought about was have a shield that would be between the lid and the filter that would keep the water from coming in and going onto the filter, then in one of the bottom corners have a hole with a tube running down to allow the water to drain
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I have tons of questions now that Im researching this more. I just read that shaker hood scoops provide very little advantage because of its location. They say its too close to the hood. It would need to be raised higher off the hood to get into the airflow over the car correctly. They had a valid point. The air flow starts at the furthest point forward on the car. That would be the bumper. The air is deflected up and back with the highest pressure being about 10 inches above the middle of the hood. Think about "water" droplets on the hood when driving. The airflow close to the hood is not moving as fast as you think... thats why the water stays still sometimes on the hood. IDK, it made sense.
It would be so cool to have a functional hood but Im really thinking about the scoop being under the front bumper. I mean you'd never have to worry about rain water there because the rain would have to travel vertical a foot or two to begin with. And the airflow there is probably better? I just dont know. What do you think about this? |
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Is the game, Ross is the name.
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Nice write up man!
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nice jake
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Thanks... the pics could be better but that camera is so sensative to any movement close up. This was just to give the basic idea. It can be done so many ways.
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looks good man. (lose the fog lights. lol )
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Man.... gotta take the bra off, the fogs...! Pretty soon I'll have only a Mustang there! LOL.
I mounted them there simple because it was easier to get at that part of the bumper. There are no street lights in my neighborhood and I needed additional lights just to see. One of these days I'll invest in fixing the hood and getting the right fogs. for now, the beater must stay how it is. |
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