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post #1 of 22 Old May 15th, 2007, 12:08 PM Thread Starter
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11 Second 351w

I need help with an engine combination for a 2850 pound 76 Cobra 2. I'm shooting for mid 11's but still streetable and dependable. What is the best way to go on the 351w? I dont really want to stroke it for its the 69 block and it the deck height will have to be milled. My budget is around 2 g's for the motor. It has 8.5 inch tires on it. Also about how much will it cost? Thanks
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You could put mostly mild components in and then do a small turbo or supercharger? maybe nitrous?

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2g's to turn that car into a 11 second car good luck youll need alot more then 2 g's but that money will get you off to a good start



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I'm not talking about 2g's for the whole car, just the engine. I want to run nitrous and mid 12's would be great but I was shooting for the 11's
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At 2850 pounds, it won't take much to run 11s.

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I'm not talking about 2g's for the whole car, just the engine. I want to run nitrous and mid 12's would be great but I was shooting for the 11's

2g's still aint enough for the engine..

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I'm not talking about 2g's for the whole car, just the engine. I want to run nitrous and mid 12's would be great but I was shooting for the 11's

2g's still aint enough for the engine..
You don't need much motor for 11's in a light car. 285 whp is it. Thats not hard to do. A 351 with a good intake and an exhaust would get you there I bet....well under $2,000. See below.
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Ported heads and intake, cam and some headers. The rest on traction and presto- 11's. Might be a little more to it than that, but oh well, sounds good.

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mustang II's suck at actually hooking up and 351 are not that cheap to build up. its going to take close to 2grand and then the suspension will have to be modified greatly to actually use the power.

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If the car truely only weighs 2850 with driver and fuel $2000 could cover the engine provided a guy could find a used set of heads and some other used parts. I'd use a stock crank and rods, some cheapy cast pistons, a solid flat tappet cam, good set of aftermarket heads, a Victor Jr. and a 750 Holley. That car will scream. We had a 77 Mustang II years ago that we put a real mild 351W in and it definitely hauled the mail. A friend of mine has a 76 II with a 429. That car moves along pretty good too.

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If the car truely only weighs 2850 with driver and fuel $2000 could cover the engine provided a guy could find a used set of heads and some other used parts. I'd use a stock crank and rods, some cheapy cast pistons, a solid flat tappet cam, good set of aftermarket heads, a Victor Jr. and a 750 Holley. That car will scream. We had a 77 Mustang II years ago that we put a real mild 351W in and it definitely hauled the mail. A friend of mine has a 76 II with a 429. That car moves along pretty good too.

Yeah you are right I thought he was talkin about a 302.. ooppss

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2 G's Pretty Hard?

there is no way in hell you are going to make that 351w hit 11's with that kind of money! Man im about to swap a 351w into a 89 lx and the 74' block was sold to me with the msd distributor, edelbrock ram air gap intake manifold, 650 holley carb, lunati cam, hooker headers, edelbrock waterpump, march pulleys for 2,000 dollars and that is getting hook up! I think that all the componets from my engine are almost hitting 2,000 dollars see told you!
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Re: 2 G's Pretty Hard?

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there is no way in hell you are going to make that 351w hit 11's with that kind of money! Man im about to swap a 351w into a 89 lx and the 74' block was sold to me with the msd distributor, edelbrock ram air gap intake manifold, 650 holley carb, lunati cam, hooker headers, edelbrock waterpump, march pulleys for 2,000 dollars and that is getting hook up! I think that all the componets from my engine are almost hitting 2,000 dollars see told you!
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At that weight it is very possible to run 11s with only $2000 in the engine. I already laid out a parts list that will put him well into the 11s for $2000. 330 horsepower is all he needs with 2850 pounds to run 11.90s. 330hp can be done with stock heads. With a set of used aftermarket heads 400hp will not be a problem and the car should have no problem running 11.30s or so.

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there's a notchback in town that run 10.88 and its only got a 302 w/ 310whp. and it only cost him around $1000 on the motor. its not gonna be that hard to get ur car to go 11's. just make sure you have a nice suspention set-up
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there's a notchback in town that run 10.88 and its only got a 302 w/ 310whp. and it only cost him around $1000 on the motor. its not gonna be that hard to get ur car to go 11's. just make sure you have a nice suspention set-up

I doubt that very much... What does it weigh.. I would love to do the math on that one.. Startin to get deep in here..

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there is no way in hell you are going to make that 351w hit 11's with that kind of money! Man im about to swap a 351w into a 89 lx and the 74' block was sold to me with the msd distributor, edelbrock ram air gap intake manifold, 650 holley carb, lunati cam, hooker headers, edelbrock waterpump, march pulleys for 2,000 dollars and that is getting hook up! I think that all the componets from my engine are almost hitting 2,000 dollars see told you!
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there's a notchback in town that run 10.88 and its only got a 302 w/ 310whp. and it only cost him around $1000 on the motor. its not gonna be that hard to get ur car to go 11's. just make sure you have a nice suspention set-up
He is full of shit. Assuming a (high)20% drivetrain loss the engine would be producing 390 horsepower at the flywheel. The car would have to weigh about 2400 pounds to run that fast. I'd like to see a Mustang that weighs 2400 pounds with driver. Mine didn't weigh that much with me in the seat even after I cut the old roll cage out.

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dont forget you need:
a water pump
an oil pump
an iginition system (box, dist, coil, plugs, wires)
a decent carb
correct oil pan
new rod bolts, head bolts, other bolts
piston rings
bearings
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gaskets
paint, assembly lube, silicone, etc...
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there's a notchback in town that run 10.88 and its only got a 302 w/ 310whp. and it only cost him around $1000 on the motor. its not gonna be that hard to get ur car to go 11's. just make sure you have a nice suspention set-up
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