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the best thing you can do for yourself, your car & your wallet is quit thinking & spending money & just get to the track & get some experiance.

the first tip is a simple one, why are you taking so much time going around the water box & backing up? what do you think that is doing to your ait's?

there is absolutely no reason for it, you should have been right up there with the ls car, ready to go, hell he wasn't very fast to the line either, you could have beat him up there.

look at the video you posted again & think about how much time you could have saved yourself just in that short video, time = heat in a touchy application like yours.

my second tip would be if you must spend money, spend it on a cowl hood to get some heat out & some decent wheels & tires, keep the m/t's for street use.

aside from that, like I said above, get some track time, then make a decision.

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the best thing you can do for yourself, your car & your wallet is quit thinking & spending money & just get to the track & get some experiance.

the first tip is a simple one, why are you taking so much time going around the water box & backing up? what do you think that is doing to your ait's?

there is absolutely no reason for it, you should have been right up there with the ls car, ready to go, hell he wasn't very fast to the line either, you could have beat him up there.

look at the video you posted again & think about how much time you could have saved yourself just in that short video, time = heat in a touchy application like yours.

my second tip would be if you must spend money, spend it on a cowl hood to get some heat out & some decent wheels & tires, keep the m/t's for street use.

aside from that, like I said above, get some track time, then make a decision.
Good point about the stageing time. I love running boosted cars for that very reason. I never start my burnout untill the boosted car is done with theirs, then stage as late as possible. It give me a huge advantage!


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Good point about the stageing time. I love running boosted cars for that very reason. I never start my burnout untill the boosted car is done with theirs, then stage as late as possible. It give me a huge advantage!


it's an even better tool when your in acual competition & your track runs autostart.

I let him heat up & then power out of the burnout & double bulb him as soon as I see him light his prestage light.

works every time, lol.

I've got a few tricks for the nitrous guys too..................

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it's an even better tool when your in acual competition & your track runs autostart.

I let him heat up & then power out of the burnout & double bulb him as soon as I see him light his prestage light.

works every time, lol.

I've got a few tricks for the nitrous guys too..................
I'm just an old country boy this is getting to complicated I think I'll just turbo my Kubota and call it a day lol


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It's not that complicated LOL!

Let's see, I can run that same ET with 150rwhp less than you've got - and I'm not bragging because I pretty much suck at getting a good ET for my trap speed, compared to some of the dragstrip veterans out there.
I use 275/60/15 ET Street Radials and your using street-sized wheels/tires.
It's in the wheels and tires, and driving skill of course ...

Your trap speed should be over 130mph if you're able to get traction going down the strip (at that power level).

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it's an even better tool when your in acual competition & your track runs autostart.

I let him heat up & then power out of the burnout & double bulb him as soon as I see him light his prestage light.

works every time, lol.

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So much for "courtesy staging" LOL!

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So much for "courtesy staging" LOL!

I guess you can look at it that way but theres no friends on race day once they call us out of the lanes.

IMO, a person shouldn't be bracket racing a combo that comprimises their chances of winning & if the do, shame on their compeditor for not taking advantage of them, I use the same approach on someone who takes their time deep staging & have burned many deep stage guys with autostart as well.

Jay C happend to mention race type circumstances so I followed thru with me take on it.

race days are for 1 thing, winning, screw courtesy.

test & tunes are a little diffrent though, in that case I just avoid being paired with a guy that takes too long at the starting line.

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After talking it over with my tuner Ive decided to just do the intercooler, and not the nitrous mix.

And ill be doing the 15" wheels since I cant hook up these damn Mickey T and im not sure what tires to get should i get slicks or drag radials?


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After talking it over with my tuner Ive decided to just do the intercooler, and not the nitrous mix.

And ill be doing the 15" wheels since I cant hook up these damn Mickey T and im not sure what tires to get should i get slicks or drag radials?
it kinda depends on weither you want to haul slicks out to the track with you or just drive out on drag radials.

my personal vote on an auto car would be d/r's, screw changing tires at the track.

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it kinda depends on weither you want to haul slicks out to the track with you or just drive out on drag radials.

my personal vote on an auto car would be d/r's, screw changing tires at the track.
Changing tires is no big deal for me so if slicks are the best way Thats what ill do. I was looking at these
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/gdy-2790
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-521-5866ps


from now on on hot days ill be hauling my car to the track so It does not have 45-60 minutes of heat soak on it before I get there.


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I'd stick with a more main stream tire/slick (ie. m/t, hoosier)

I would also go a little wider.

that said however, I still stand by the d/r comment, you've got enough problems as it is trying to learn all this racing stuff, you don't really need to deal with slicks walking around on you on top end at 130+, d/r's will make life alot easier for you.

these on an 8" rim will be all you need,

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mtt-3753r

if you must have a 28 for some reason, then here you go,

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mtt-3753r

lastly if you think you need more (you don't) here you go,

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mtt-90000001536

any of those will support 60's faster than your car will ever see in it's current state & drive well at speed.

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Thanks for that information, Im not very knowledgable in this area so Ill ask the crazy question thats bothering me.

Those are pretty close to what i have as far as tread, but they are much taller so what makes these work better then what I have?


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Thanks for that information, Im not very knowledgable in this area so Ill ask the crazy question thats bothering me.

Those are pretty close to what i have as far as tread, but they are much taller so what makes these work better then what I have?
it's mainly the tread compound & the ability for the side wall to flex because of the 15" rim vs what you have now.

what you have now can get the job done as well but thore will make life easier.

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I guess you can look at it that way but theres no friends on race day once they call us out of the lanes.

IMO, a person shouldn't be bracket racing a combo that comprimises their chances of winning & if the do, shame on their compeditor for not taking advantage of them, I use the same approach on someone who takes their time deep staging & have burned many deep stage guys with autostart as well.

Jay C happend to mention race type circumstances so I followed thru with me take on it.

race days are for 1 thing, winning, screw courtesy.

test & tunes are a little diffrent though, in that case I just avoid being paired with a guy that takes too long at the starting line.
I don't see much "double-bulbing" where I race (and I mean during a bracket race not a test and tune). In fact you can get disqualified for doing it.

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I don't see much "double-bulbing" where I race (and I mean during a bracket race not a test and tune). In fact you can get disqualified for doing it.
yeah, its track sensitive, some let you get away with it, some don't.

as long as everyone knows what they are doing then it's a mute point, both guys will go in immedeately anyway, it's the slackers that generally take their good old time staging & double bulbed or not they are generally going home early anyway.

if I race at a track with starting line restrictions, I just adjust my dial accordingly & deal with pesky cars on the other end..............

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It's not that complicated LOL!

Let's see, I can run that same ET with 150rwhp less than you've got - and I'm not bragging because I pretty much suck at getting a good ET for my trap speed, compared to some of the dragstrip veterans out there.
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Your trap speed should be over 130mph if you're able to get traction going down the strip (at that power level).

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So much for "courtesy staging" LOL!
It's my understanding that if the other car has lit the first bulb you can drive on in and stage. If he hasn't lit one bulb then you are "double-bulbing" .


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We have been doing alot of SC setups with spray bars plumbed into the lower. We have been seeing double the increase or more in HP gains. 50 HP shots have easily netted 100 HP gain. We have one customer with a ZR1 that gained 200 on a 100 shot single nozzle system.
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We have been doing alot of SC setups with spray bars plumbed into the lower. We have been seeing double the increase or more in HP gains. 50 HP shots have easily netted 100 HP gain. We have one customer with a ZR1 that gained 200 on a 100 shot single nozzle system.
Spray bars plumbed into what? I was thinking pre intercooler just for cooling purposes on smoking hit days.


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look into a co2 sprayer



I haven't seen or heard of anyone on here running one I just seen it on youtube a long time ago.

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