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post #21 of 46 Old June 7th, 2013, 12:42 AM
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just get a maf adapter and get a high flow cone filter like spectre or k&n and be done with it

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I never had a problem with my bbk cai getting dirty or heat soaked. Are you off-roading your car or something?


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Moss Muscle is going out of biz and selling Steeda RAI's for almost half. Free shipping: Moss Mustang Store - Parts and Accessories for your Ford Mustang

I have a K&N RAI, and it is a dream. So easy to access, and clean, and the black does it for me. Yes the JLT's are the same, I just don't like their rubber elbows.

Put your CAI up for sale, and order the Steeda, you most likely won't lose but $10. The "sucky" noise under the hood comes from the screen thats most likely removed from your MAF btw.

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just get a maf adapter and get a high flow cone filter like spectre or k&n and be done with it
Exactly what I have.. K&N non fender well mount setup and like it

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This is when you rub your cliffyk lamp and he comes and explains about standing waves and airflow and how nearly all aftermarket CAI likely are worse than the stock unit.

Based in you issue with cleaning and wanting to reduce sucking noise, go back to stock an pit a different filter in it. You may find stock stuff for sale on here or at a junkyard.
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The metal tube will heat soak like fuck
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The metal tube will heat soak like fuck
Yup! It's hot when I touch it. Was wondering how that could possibly help as a cold are intake.

Anyone know a good way of oiling the filter with out over oiling it? I think the kn has a spray to help spread it evenly whereas the bbk is a bottle of blue oil you put in the pleat and set it upright to soak downwards, according to their instructions...


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Bbk hasn't been impressing me much lately...


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Ive never been impressed with ANY BBK product.


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This is what I mean. Even by pulling the plate out, the filter still doesn't fit.
So, FYI to those looking to purchase this setup.
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As an out of the box thought, hot air helps with fuel efficiency. So I wonder if a heat soaked tube helps with that. You could always toss an ice bag on it at the track.

I run a FIPK2 and its a pain to stretch it over my 75mm Accufab. A JLT is bigger but the FIPK2 looks like I flows the air smoother. The JLT gets big after the MAF then crunches down to get air into the throttle body.
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thats because they are cheap and sell to the mass public who think they know cars.. but really dont.
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thats because they are cheap and sell to the mass public who think they know cars.. but really dont.
That would be me! 😁Actually I had racked up enough amazon points to get it for free and it was the only one available at the time. I got impatient.
Question: isn't the point of larger intake, tb and piping to allow more air in? And if so, shouldn't they all be the same size diameter? Or do I want a funnel effect? I mean, if I gotta do it again, may as well do it right.
So if I go back to a oem intake, I should probably put oem plenum and tb back on?
Or if I go aftermarket, make sure the diameters match?


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All this is funny. I've had my BBK CAI for years, and I have to say that I don't believe it has ever slowed me down. Now I am not saying that it is the best CAI on the market, but I honestly don't think I lost power from it. So if I follow the reasoning that some of you have put forth, on my n/a dyno runs maybe I would have broke 300rwhp with the stock intake tube, instead of the 298.4rwhp that I did with the BBK in place. How many of you honestly believe that would have been the result?

Maybe I should do back to back passes with the BBK and Stock set ups and see what the results are.


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The metal tube will heat soak like fuck
The air moving through the metallic pipe will not be in contact with it long enough to cause any heat soak issues. Once air begins to flow it will in effect cool the pipe.

Once the vehicle is in motion the under hood temps drop dramatically.

Drive the car then pull over pop the hood and feel the pipe. You tell me if heat soak is a problem.


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All this is funny. I've had my BBK CAI for years, and I have to say that I don't believe it has ever slowed me down. Now I am not saying that it is the best CAI on the market, but I honestly don't think I lost power from it. So if I follow the reasoning that some of you have put forth, on my n/a dyno runs maybe I would have broke 300rwhp with the stock intake tube, instead of the 298.4rwhp that I did with the BBK in place. How many of you honestly believe that would have been the result?

Maybe I should do back to back passes with the BBK and Stock set up and see what the results are.
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The air moving through the metallic pipe will not be in contact with it long enough to cause any heat soak issues. Once air begins to flow it will in effect cool the pipe.

Once the vehicle is in motion the under hood temps drop dramatically.

Drive the car then pull over pop the hood and feel the pipe. You tell me if heat soak is a problem.


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All this is funny. I've had my BBK CAI for years, and I have to say that I don't believe it has ever slowed me down. Now I am not saying that it is the best CAI on the market, but I honestly don't think I lost power from it. So if I follow the reasoning that some of you have put forth, on my n/a dyno runs maybe I would have broke 300rwhp with the stock intake tube, instead of the 298.4rwhp that I did with the BBK in place. How many of you honestly believe that would have been the result?

Maybe I should do back to back passes with the BBK and Stock set ups and see what the results are.
There really shouldnt be giant difference between an after market CAI and the stock with a drop in filter unless you're going to try and push bast 400-500hp...

and even if you would have hit just over 300 with the stock, who really cares... again its not really noticeable. My only problem is the "idea" of BBK that still advertises 15-20hp gain, when really 99% of that is in the tune they forget to mention. They are made with less quality than other aftermarket and OEM products. Plus the previous generations looked terrible so there was litterally no benefit, where as the new black ones aren't bad and looks similar to the K&N
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Has anyone ever strapped a mustang on a dyno or even conducted a more accurate test and ran it down the track and proven for fact that a bbk cai did not add power? Please tell me where this theory of cold air intakes having no benefit or actually causing power loss originated? It had to start somewhere.

I just want to say I don't agree with false advertising either.


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This test was not on a mustang but a good read anyhow


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This test was not on a mustang but a good read anyhow


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