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post #2821 of 5051 Old June 21st, 2015, 08:37 PM Thread Starter
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On 93, no. I'd stay 11.8-12.0 range on 93. E85 though I'd try to get closer to 10.8.

Are the plugs above on 93 or E85?
93 I ran them about 10 minutes on Corn.


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93 I ran them about 10 minutes on Corn.
No wonder they look weird. lol Put in a fresh set of plugs to run only on corn.

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Well I pulled them prior to and they were perfect brown Its almost like the corn cleans them off. Ill put me a new set in before I start any WOT pulls. these things have almost no run time on them they are brand new. This is the second set I have installed since I started tuning on 93. It seems like a waste of money and time to put in new plugs that have less then 100 miles or so on them.


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So if the plating is all burned off then you are too lean?
The more burn on the base ring, especially if it moves into the 1st and 2nd threads, means you're getting too hot. It doesn't necessarily mean you're too lean. Could be fat with too hot of a plug. Alcohol is a weird fuel. You could make adjustments with the fuel that might raise or lower EGTs and AFR but hardly change the reading on the plug.

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Well I pulled them prior to and they were perfect brown Its almost like the corn cleans them off. Ill put me a new set in before I start any WOT pulls. these things have almost no run time on them they are brand new. This is the second set I have installed since I started tuning on 93. It seems like a waste of money and time to put in new plugs that have less then 100 miles or so on them.
I know some guys who put in a fresh set of plugs every pass down the track when tuning so they have a fresh slate to gauge each adjustment. I love the recessed tip BR6EF and BR7EF plugs which are only like $2/ea. If you're using expensive $6+/ea plugs then I could understand. At least clean them off good and try to get all the carbon depositing off of them from the gas before reinstalling for E85. The alcohol will eat away the carbon eventually anyway but still. It's just better to grab a clean sheet of paper to plot new data.

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Thanks for the tips I used to run the BR7EF's and they did good for me and were cheap, this time I stepped up the plug to a more expensive unit. I did clean them of this time with carbon cleaner.

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to Dumb this down for someone who might not understand Your talking about the little silver tip that looks like it has a flat head slot inside it inside the white part on tip of the plug correct? SO you look at the burn on it and see how far it goes down to gauge your readings?

In the past I have never read it I always read the tips so ive learned something today as well.


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Thanks for the tips I used to run the BR7EF's and they did good for me and were cheap, this time I stepped up the plug to a more expensive unit. I did clean them of this time with carbon cleaner.

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to Dumb this down for someone who might not understand Your talking about the little silver tip that looks like it has a flat head slot inside it inside the white part on tip of the plug correct? SO you look at the burn on it and see how far it goes down to gauge your readings?

In the past I have never read it I always read the tips so ive learned something today as well.
No. I'm referring to the base ring of the plug for AFR and the barb (strap, ground electrode, etc.. whatever you want to call it) for the timing. You're referring to the center electrode, which can also be used to read timing but harder to see accurately.



If the color on the base ring is white and between 80-100% of the ring, you're good to go. If the white is spreading down past the first thread, you're too hot. You can either keep the same AFR and put in a colder plug or can richen the tune up to make us of the hotter plug. Either method will work but only one will make more power. If the white is only showing on about half or less of the base ring, then you're too cold. You either need to lean it out or put in a hotter plug.

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So i am starting to fabricate some kind of strut brace tower for the GT, Its proving to be difficult because the intercooler pipin is making me push everything forward. Has anyone ran across and custom stru brace towers done on a setup like mine?

the reason I want a brace is to stiffen it up just a little bit more in the corners, the shock spring combination i chose heled alot but i feel like i need a little more.


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You don't have a front sway anymore do you?
Nope its gone

So onto something strange, I have the SCT X-3 tuner that's supposed to hold 3 tunes right? now so far I have 5 tunes stored and there is still plenty of room. I wonder if SCT downloaded the X4 software in it when they updated it.


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So i am starting to fabricate some kind of strut brace tower for the GT, Its proving to be difficult because the intercooler pipin is making me push everything forward. Has anyone ran across and custom stru brace towers done on a setup like mine?

the reason I want a brace is to stiffen it up just a little bit more in the corners, the shock spring combination i chose heled alot but i feel like i need a little more.
MM sells a STB for the 03-04 Cobras with a Whipple charger that has an elevated crossbar. I bought one for my car to clear my JLT CAI. I'm going to have to redrill the brace to line up with my factory holes but take a look at it and see if that might work for you.





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thanks Mccloud ill take a look at that, Actually it gives me some new design ideals since I do not have to attach it to the Camber bolts.

I found out from Brooks that the new firmware for the X3 supports up to about 10 files so anyone who has an X3 and wants to hold more then 3 files look into updating your firmware on your SCT hand held.

I also got a file revision to datalog tonight so once I get off ill be running some logs again. as close as this E-85 tune is we should be going WOT in a couple days at most.
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Decided to make me a custom shift extension so i could sit back further and reach the shifter without having to lean forward when the seat is all the way back where i have to ride to et the leg room i need..

when I get it installed in the car ill put up a picture of it actually mounted.

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Here is the finished product, it will thread onto my Existing B&M shifter and give me a little rise and a couple inches back.



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What shifter are you using? Why not relocate it with a MidSouth relocation kit? Looks like nice work though!

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I still have ti finish screwing it all the way down to cover up that exposed threaded area but this gives you an ideal.

DAMN this is super comfortable now, im getting ready for some data logging..





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That's nice I wonder how much modification is needed to the hardware to move it back?

That crazy looking thing I made sure is comfortable my son named it the flamingo cause it looks like one Lol.
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my son named it the flamingo cause it looks like one Lol.
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Going in to some wot pulls to ight on E85 if the storms can wait till I get finished. Going to start out at 17 PSI tonight then work my way up to 25-27PSI.
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