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post #1 of 11 Old November 17th, 2017, 06:31 PM Thread Starter
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Vortech v3sci new edge

Why dont i ever seen anybody running an v3 sci on a new edge? Is it not possible or something? It seems almost identicle to an si. Just want to make 400whp on a stock engine?

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post #2 of 11 Old November 17th, 2017, 09:07 PM
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Just about any introductory supercharger will make 400 rwhp on a stock 4.6 2v. All it takes is 10 psi of boost. Or 9 psi and a dyno that uses the STD standard. I've been running near 400 rwhp for 11 years with a P1SC at 9 psi.

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All i need is ccw and a straight design tube right? I found an sci with that but i cant find anyone running an sci v3 on their new edge mustang gt. So im uncertain.

Edit: the one im looking at came off a 350z, but its just the head unit. Wouldnt that fit as long as its ccw and straight design? Again v3 sci

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Honestly I'd call vortech directly and ask them

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^Spot on. 805 247 0226 Vortech Support. They should be able to answer that question directly once they open.

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You are correct in that you need a ccw head unit because it fits on the passenger side with the pulley toward the rear of the car. From your comments it sounds like you intend to run a non-intercooled configuration.

I'm sure the bracket will not fit. Brackets are very specific. A bracket off a 1999 Mustang GT will not fit on a 2000-2004 Mustang GT. I would also guess that you'd also need the supercharger idler pulley. I would question whether a pipe from a 350Z would be the correct length. That is something you would have to find out. Then there are all the other things that you will need to support the supercharger: fuel injectors, plugs, tuner or chip, fuel pump, etc. If you are planning on using the stock MAF at 400 rwhp you will need a Diablosport MAFia.

In a non-intercooled configuration you have to run a draw-through MAF. That puts the MAF in your cold air intake. Your by-pass valve will be in the pipe running from the head unit to the throttle body. It has to have a hose connecting it to the CAI because you can't vent metered air to atmosphere. That pipe will also need a port for the Idle Air Controller.

I am certain I'm missing something. It not impossible to piece together a supercharger kit. A lot of people have done it. It just takes time to do the research. Non-intercooled systems will not make the same horsepower with the same level of boost as intercooled systems because the higher inlet air temperature will not allow for more timing. You might want to add a meth kit to your list of parts.

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So much to learn. I just did every bolt on possible and I want more. I'm deeply looking into blowers now. Then I'll probably want more. Ugh

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Sorry, i do have a parts list, blow through, intercooled, fuel upgrades, all im worried about is if the head unit is going to work because i never see anyone running those head units, always the si. Its ccw and straight not curved design. And its the head unit only, no pulleys or bracket. So if i bought that head unit i should be able to buy the appropriate bracket and pulleys to run it to 400whp correct? Why does no one do this lol?

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I'm running a ProCharger and know very little about Vortech superchargers. Basically my knowledge was limited to knowing that V1, V2 and V3 are transmissions and S-trim and t-trim were the compressor. And you are correct. In all of the supercharger debates over the last 10-years I have never heard a Mustang driver talk about the SCi-trim. Their side always talked about the s-trim or upgrading to the t-trim. So I decided to look up SCi-trim. It looks like it was designed as an entry level supercharger for very small displacement motors. (I said very small because I consider the 4.6L motor a small displacement motor.) Vortech doesn't even advertise it as an option for the 4.6.

Looking at the kits it appears to have a plastic output with no blow-off or by-pass valve. I'll include the links so you can read for yourself. The head unit might bolt up but I'm not sure you would be happy with it on a 4.6.

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What is the difference between a Vortech V-1, V-2, V-3 Trim? : SuperchargersOnline, Worlds largest Supercharger Resource. Get Serious About Power
V3 SCi vs V3 SI - Ford Mustang Forums : Corral.net Mustang Forum
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I've only seen v3sci on nissan/Infiniti, usually on the 3.7l. Seems like the step up rate would work fine for a normal revving mod motor, but I don't know if it has some thing to do with displacement. (Disclaimer: I'm an NA mod motor guy, and a turbo nissan guy, so super chargers are not my forte. )

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SC was always available for Cobras. Usually youd see them on 99/01 cobras. They're meant for cars revving 6500+rpm. You'll need to spin it higher to make the same amount of boost as with an S. It will work, but if it doesn't make enough boost just put a smaller pulley on it. If you are getting an intercooler then you'll need a 3.12 pulley at least. Should put you at 10-11psi if it's a quality intercooler. On my S that pulley made about 12.5psi at 6400.

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