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post #1 of 16 Old December 11th, 2017, 11:01 PM Thread Starter
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Which exhaust?

I have a 2002 gt and I want a deep exhaust sound and but also want it to be loud with a little bit of crackle to it. I've watched hours of exhaust videos and can't decide. I was just wondering what some your favorite exhaust setups were. I was hoping for just a mid pipe and muffler setup instead of a cat back
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I know no body replied to this. Probably because it's such a well discussed topic already but I'll try to help.

You want crackle and you want deep. The muffler that comes to mind is stingers. The problem is you want something more weld in friendly versus a new catback. A good weld in muffler that's similar is the SLP Loudmouth II muffler.

As far as a deeper sounding mid pipe, basani seems to be the deepest X pipe with out going H which will give you the crackle you want. Stay away from BBks X. I've had it in the past and it sounds like pissed off bees at certain rpms.

It will cost you a pretty penny. A different X to try is a UPR. While popular, their quality is hit and miss. I personally had one and it fit like crap but others have had it with success. It's a different design then Basani but I'm trying to give you bass with crackle options.

At the end of the day I personally found spending money once on quality is cheaper then going cheap just to swap later on.

YouTube will answer your question the best. It's hard to give exhaust advice over text because everyone has a different ear to that perfect exhaust note.

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Thanks for the help, Sorry I'm new to the forum and I haven't really been able to figure out how to read other and all that so I just made a question
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Thanks for the help, Sorry I'm new to the forum and I haven't really been able to figure out how to read other and all that so I just made a question
It's all good man. That's why we have a forum. We were all new once.

What's your budget? When you were on YouTube listening to clips, what setups caught your ear the most? What style mid pipe did you like?

Budget tone and volume is what we need. Raspy nascar versus deep muscle car sounding? Budget is huge. There's just so much out there it's hard to recommend an application

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https://youtu.be/ZzSajHdgwNM

there's my borla with a pypes offroad X pipe. It sounded NASTY.

It was a little loud for me. I'm running the stock mid pipe right now but i picked up a mac pro-chamber and am going to give that a try with some high flow cats.
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there's my borla with a pypes offroad X pipe. It sounded NASTY.

It was a little loud for me. I'm running the stock mid pipe right now but i picked up a mac pro-chamber and am going to give that a try with some high flow cats.

off road prochamber is noticeably quieter than an off road X. I had my bassani catback on with the bassani off road X, insanity, had it on with the prochamber and it was mellow and smooth. I reckon a catted prochamber would be quiet like a stock H pipe.

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save your self a ton of money weld in some pypes m80s or magnaflow street mufflers or any muffler really, maybe some new tips if you want, a pypes x with high flow cats. An exhaust shop will probably charge you 150.00 to weld everything in for you. get the IAC valve gasket mod done and youll be snap crackle and popping between red lights

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Go to some shows and listen for yourself. Find out what others are using and go from there. I think you'll find smaller bullet mufflers are louder, but don't muffle the "blat, blat" sound. Full size mufflers get rid of the "blat" but also muffle more of the sound and the "crackle". Personally I went with SLP PowerFlo mufflers.

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I hate x pipes lol. I have a VRS X pipe I had installed for half a day. Going to sell it once I get a chance to post pics.

I love my stingers but too much blat with the OR H. Going to get a off-road prochamber and call it a day. For now I can deal.

I have long tubes as well.

The x pipe just didn't sound good to me at all. Too much tinny rasp sound. H was would a difference but under hard accel too much blatttt blatttttt but otherwise was good. Decel on the H is nasty sounding and so is cruising. Nasty as in good. I can give up some volume for tone which is why I want the prochamber.

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I have flowmaster 40s on my car. They came with it when I bought it. Everyone compliments the sound - never a negative comment. Itís all deep tone and no high pitch and very little rasp.

A die hard camaro fan boy came over one day and said ďyup, sounds like a mustang.Ē I think that is as close to a diss as I have gotten.

My thoughts: itís all deep rumble but is not very loud unless getting close to wot. They also drone on the highway at times. Iíve had the borla stingerís in my cart with my credit card on the table more than once. They sound the best in my opinion - deep and loud with a reasonable amount of raspiness.
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I have flowmaster 40s on my car. They came with it when I bought it. Everyone compliments the sound - never a negative comment. Itís all deep tone and no high pitch and very little rasp.

A die hard camaro fan boy came over one day and said ďyup, sounds like a mustang.Ē I think that is as close to a diss as I have gotten.

My thoughts: itís all deep rumble but is not very loud unless getting close to wot. They also drone on the highway at times. Iíve had the borla stingerís in my cart with my credit card on the table more than once. They sound the best in my opinion - deep and loud with a reasonable amount of raspiness.
I had super 44s on my car with an offroad H and stock manifolds for the longest time. It eventually sounded like every other truck in town plus the tone wasn't as refined as I would like.

The stingers are heavenly compared to flowmaster. Now when I hear a flowmaster I cringe a bit. I will say when you go stingers and you like deep go with a prochamber. X was tinny and H is blatty. Prochamber will be my next purchase. I have long tubes btw.

I had Mac flowpaths in the past. While not exactly like flows they are somewhat similar but more refined and deeper. I dug them for a bit but wasn't my thing.

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Did someone say M80s? Lol Im a fanboy. I like how different the sound is and how quiet they are until you get on it. I have them dumped right after the axle (no axle back) on my 07 gt and theyre mean as hell and very deep. If you stand behind the car you can feel it in your chest lol.

Ive run both og 40s and super 44s on 3 different mustangs and loved them but theyre quite restrictive and everyone hates on them. Imo flows and stingers are what makes an sn95 sound like an sn95.

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Did someone say M80s? Lol Im a fanboy. I like how different the sound is and how quiet they are until you get on it. I have them dumped right after the axle (no axle back) on my 07 gt and theyre mean as hell and very deep. If you stand behind the car you can feel it in your chest lol.

Ive run both og 40s and super 44s on 3 different mustangs and loved them but theyre quite restrictive and everyone hates on them. Imo flows and stingers are what makes an sn95 sound like an sn95.
On a bolt on car restriction is fine imo. Flowmaster is just so played out. Ever truck, car, ghetto Rider, ect has it. Everyone sounds the same and after a while it's more of a ...oh hey has flowmaster. When I hear something different it peaks my interest. I mod to stand out but I mod mostly to make it my own. To me flowmaster isn't for me and I was the biggest flowmaster fanboy alive 5 years ago. I wrote a whole thread outlining the differences between each 40 series muffler because I've owned them all over my years of being in this hobby (not just with my mustang). That's my rant

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Did someone say M80s? Lol Im a fanboy. I like how different the sound is and how quiet they are until you get on it. I have them dumped right after the axle (no axle back) on my 07 gt and theyre mean as hell and very deep. If you stand behind the car you can feel it in your chest lol.

Ive run both og 40s and super 44s on 3 different mustangs and loved them but theyre quite restrictive and everyone hates on them. Imo flows and stingers are what makes an sn95 sound like an sn95.
On a bolt on car restriction is fine imo. Flowmaster is just so played out. Ever truck, car, ghetto Rider, ect has it. Everyone sounds the same and after a while it's more of a ...oh hey has flowmaster. When I hear something different it peaks my interest. I mod to stand out but I mod mostly to make it my own. To me flowmaster isn't for me and I was the biggest flowmaster fanboy alive 5 years ago. I wrote a whole thread outlining the differences between each 40 series muffler because I've owned them all over my years of being in this hobby (not just with my mustang). That's my rant
It depends on the motor. On a bolt on 2v Im sure it isnt restricting the exhaust enough to cause a decrease in performance but it would still be there. I felt like I gained something going from flows to m80s but it could just be all in my head lol. I have to agree with you about it sounding like every other car lol and that was part of the reason I got away from them.

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save your self a ton of money weld in some pypes m80s or magnaflow street mufflers or any muffler really, maybe some new tips if you want, a pypes x with high flow cats. An exhaust shop will probably charge you 150.00 to weld everything in for you. get the IAC valve gasket mod done and youll be snap crackle and popping between red lights
I had a Flowmaster cat-back and did this. I hated the original Flowmaster 40 muffler. Instead of buying a new cat-back I had the Flowmasters cut out and Magnaflows welded in. I'm running that with BBK LTs and catted x-pipe. Its loud enough with a deep muscle car sound. Not really raspy. It sounds more like its growling as I ease through town shifting around 2200-2300 rpm. I think the ideal muffler is loud outside the car and not so loud inside. My combo is still loud enough that I have to have the radio up to 2/3 volume to hear it.

I have posted these old links several times. It's a comparison of horsepower and loudness for various mufflers.
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save your self a ton of money weld in some pypes m80s or magnaflow street mufflers or any muffler really, maybe some new tips if you want, a pypes x with high flow cats. An exhaust shop will probably charge you 150.00 to weld everything in for you. get the IAC valve gasket mod done and youll be snap crackle and popping between red lights
I had a Flowmaster cat-back and did this. I hated the original Flowmaster 40 muffler. Instead of buying a new cat-back I had the Flowmasters cut out and Magnaflows welded in. I'm running that with BBK LTs and catted x-pipe. Its loud enough with a deep muscle car sound. Not really raspy. It sounds more like its growling as I ease through town shifting around 2200-2300 rpm. I think the ideal muffler is loud outside the car and not so loud inside. My combo is still loud enough that I have to have the radio up to 2/3 volume to hear it.

I have posted these old links several times. It's a comparison of horsepower and loudness for various mufflers.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...al-street.html
http://www.mustangandfords.com/parts...mparison-test/

P.S. At idle up to around 1500-1800 rpm I can still hear the supercharger whistle. I like that too.
I agree. Chambered mufflers actually do carry the sound inside the cabin.

Interesting fact: ever wonder why newer cars put the mufflers in the rear? Decreases cabin noise. Never knew. Read some article on it.

Anyway I'm sure as I age I'll get tired of the stingers. Who knows. I do know I hate x pipes and hate chambered mufflers.

Waiting til after Christmas to swap my off-road H to an off-road prochamber to go with my BBK LTs and borla stingers. H is blat with the stingers but didn't sound like that with the chambered mufflers.

OP given your options and what you want I say a prochamber with stingers will fit the bill. Deep with some crackle and pop. Bam done... but it won't be cheap.

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