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post #1 of 25 Old January 7th, 2015, 08:02 PM Thread Starter
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So I caved and bought myself a pretty bare bones AR. Need to explore options for optics. Give me some good options for under $100. Tube style or open style? Help a member out. Just looking for easy to use and something that won't break the bank.

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post #2 of 25 Old January 7th, 2015, 08:10 PM
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Under $100, no such thing as a good optic for that price. Not even Magpul MBUS Pro flip up sight sets are under $100.
Just save that $100, and it to a few more saved dollars and buy an Aimpoint or Leupold. Also decide if you want magnification.
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Ok, so Aimpoint and Leupold are the recommended brands so far.

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For a bare bones AR, I would stick with good old iron sights for awhile.

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Only problem is that there are no sights and there isn't a front rail. I can buy a magpul iron sights kit but I have no clue how to mount a front sight.

---------- Post added at 06:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:05 PM ----------

Nevermind, found a few on Brownells that should mount right on. Now to order, wait, mount, and sight in.

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I hear you can get some decent acog clones on ebay for a couple hundred. They don't have the tritium but they have fiber. I have never used one though.

I had a truglo holo sight on one of my last ARs and it was pretty decent. Nothing to write home about though. It was around $100.

I think my favorite sight that I had was an eotech though but I paid $400 for it.
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get a good set of irons or save up money. Vortex has some great budget orientated red dot optics like the Sparc series (the I or II version) for around 150-200 as well as their Strikefire series (the I or II version) for around 100-150 range. Personally I would recommend saving for something Mil-Spec like an Aimpoint PRO ($400ish), an Eotech EXPS series ($450ish), or a Mako/Meprolight RDS ($380ish). For a magnified optic I hear that the Bushnell AR Optics FFP Illuminated BTR-1 BDC 1-4x 24mm scope is pretty good for the money.


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For a budget optic look no further than the Vortex Strikefire. I've had one on my AR for a few years and it is a great optic for the money. I've since upgraded to an Aimpoint Pro but would still recommend the Vortex to anyone.

Also, post pup what rifle you have and what iron sites you plan on buying before you pull the trigger so you don't end up with crap.

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Here's the rifle, New Frontier Armory lower and a Core 15 upper.


Here's the front sight kit I was going to buy
Parts :: Upper Parts :: Sights, Optics, Flashlights and Lasers :: A Frame Front Sight Base Kit

Here's the Magpul rear sight I was looking at
https://www.primaryarms.com/MagPul_M.../mag248blk.htm

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That front sight is most likely not going to work with your rifle. It uses taper pins that the barrel has to be machined for to use and it is most likely not in it's current configuration.

Personally what I would do is in the short term, pick up a budget optic then in the future when you can afford it, add a free float rail system along with some flip up sights.

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Here's the rifle, New Frontier Armory lower and a Core 15 upper.


Here's the front sight kit I was going to buy
Parts :: Upper Parts :: Sights, Optics, Flashlights and Lasers :: A Frame Front Sight Base Kit

Here's the Magpul rear sight I was looking at
https://www.primaryarms.com/MagPul_M.../mag248blk.htm
why the hell does it not have a front sight base? If it had a free floated hand guard it would make sense as you could just add a BUIS on the rail...

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Personally what I would do is in the short term, pick up a budget optic then in the future when you can afford it, add a free float rail system along with some flip up sights.
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why the hell does it not have a front sight base? If it had a free floated hand guard it would make sense as you could just add a BUIS on the rail...
Good question. I guess it will make it easy to add a free float rail given it already has a low profile gas block.

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Ok, so it looks like I get to look into a free float rail. Haven't even fired it and I've got a laundry list growing.













I like it...

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I really like Troy Industries rail systems. Very high quality and reasonably priced. You could stick one on there for ~$200.

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Good question. I guess it will make it easy to add a free float rail given it already has a low profile gas block.
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Ok, so it looks like I get to look into a free float rail. Haven't even fired it and I've got a laundry list growing.













I like it...
My personal recommendation (budget wise) is a Midwest Industries K-Series Keymod handguard (or their SSM M-Lok rail which is that same as the K-series except in M-Lok form), Troy's Alpha rail, ALG Defense's EMR (Standard or M-Lok) or if you want a quad rail style handguard the Midwest Industries Gen 2 T Series quad rail. I have a BCM KMR13 keymod rail on my AR and it is truly amazing (although its pricey at $280)


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i would get the sights first. What barrel length do you have and what are your intentions for it? Ive got several for different purposes and the purposes determines my sight/optic configuration as well as a couple of other things like "cowitness". With my 2 precision builds one has MBUS Pro flip sights paired with a leupold optic. After sighting in my optic I barely ever use my BUS's unless its to make sure that they are still dialed in. the other precision has the same optic and canted sights. Both of those rifles are 20". My SBR and suppressed 16" both have the standard front iron post. The SBR has an aimpoint T1 with aimpoint magnifier with swing mount for CQB and the other has a trijicon acog on her. I firmly believe that with a rifle that you will be using for CQB that a front post is necessary in case optic failure (rare but not unheard of) that you way you can aquire the threat and eliminate. my rear sight on my SBR and 16" are the mbus pros that are quick to deploy. But nothing beats "point and shoot" in a cqb situation. Sights dont make you a better shooter; discipline, training, and muscle memory make you a better shooter.

But as the others have said, save your money for a good optic rather then spend that money on cheap optics. Leupold, Aimpoint, Eotech, Trijicon... great proven brands. If you have an eye problem then thats another problem all in itself but stay away from red dots if that is the case.

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It's an 18 inch barrell 1:7 twist. I'm not looking for anything special, just a fun to shoot rifle that I can play around with and grab if SHTF. My plan right now is to get the free float rail, a good set of iron sights and take it to get dialed in. Stock up on ammo while I figure out future plans and set money aside for a quality optic. Pretty straight forward right now.

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Is that a left handed upper?

You could change out the front gas block for one with a built in A1/A2 style sight. Or change to a key mod fore grip with a picatinny rail.

I just feel every AR should have iron sights at least so you can fall back to them if you have optic trouble.

Good looking rifle.
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Here's another question. The owner of my shop recommended this free float rail, says he only had positive experiences with them. Would this work before I blow a wad?

VRS T-556 Free Floating Handguards ? Diamondhead USA, Inc.

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Here's another question. The owner of my shop recommended this free float rail, says he only had positive experiences with them. Would this work before I blow a wad?

VRS T-556 Free Floating Handguards ? Diamondhead USA, Inc.

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That would work fine. A buddy of mine has a Diamondhead rail, I'm personally not a fan of the looks but it is a good quality rail.


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