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post #1 of 30 Old March 1st, 2016, 12:24 AM Thread Starter
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FItech install Meanstreet EFI

Howdy guys. I recently ordered the meanstreet EFI kit and fuel command center from FItech EFI

2016-02-29_07-29-21 by Brett, on Flickr

I ordered the items through Summit Racing. The fuel center came in right away, the EFI unit took a couple weeks. The company has multiple different units to meet everyone's needs. I choose the 800 HP capable Meanstreet because I eventually plan to put this on a 408w.

I will update this thread as I complete the install. If I don't write it down as I go, I'll prolly forget a few things.

A couple things I had to deal with today:

The EFI unit has a 5/16" air cleaner stud hole. Not a huge deal, but it may require you to purchase an adapter, I nabbed one easily at the local auto store:

2016-02-29_11-13-32 by Brett, on Flickr

It requires its own coolant sensor port as it has its own coolant sensor, I only had the one port on the intake, so I have to swap in an extra thermostat housing that has a port on top. I will pick up a new gasket and thermostat tomorrow.

Here is the unit sitting on my motor currently.

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I got the new thermostat housing installed:

20160301_222531 by Brett, on Flickr

I was able to mark and remove my exhaust so I can have the O2 bung welded on this week.

20160301_222558 by Brett, on Flickr

I started mounting the fuel command center tonight also. I need to get some longer bolts to help hold the unit level. I'll snap some pictures once its mounted. Unfortunately its location is going to require that I move my MSD box.

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I got the fuel center mounted tonight. I need to order some nice fuel line to plumb it all up. I also got some fittings to make a vent line.

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Awesome thread man. I've been trying to find the funds to justify this myself. I must admit the fuel center is larger than I imagined.

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The fuel center isn't very big, only about ~6" across on top. I had to mount it up higher then I originally wanted to due to clearance issues with the radiator and the frame rail at the bottom.

I need to get some fuel line and/or call Summit as the kit was supposed to have some in it and it didn't. However, it looks like the stuff they supply you is just rubber hose, I am looking at stepping up to PTFE for under the hood.

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I was able to mount my MSD back using 2 of the previous holes. Not sure if its too close to the fuel center, but we'll see once I get the lines in.

20160303_191051 by Brett, on Flickr

I need to order some fuel line. I will prolly use some sort of PTFE/teflon line instead of rubber.

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I've been interested in this unit myself. Subscribed.

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I got the exhaust done. The kit comes with comes with some clamps and a gasket to just clamp it on, but i decided to just have it welded on.

20160304_212521 by Brett, on Flickr

And with the exhaust installed in the car, plenty of room:

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I have new fittings and hose on order from Summit. Says it'll be in on Tuesday, well see.

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Ok, I finally got one box from Summit. It had some of my fittings and the hose i ordered.

I went with Russel Proclassic hose and full flow fittings. I have come to the idea that AN fittings are not user friendly, there are so many different types between lots of brands. It's best to get everything from one brand to make sure it'll all work best together. Even then, getting the fittings on is a chore.

Here is a shot comparing the Russel fitting on bottom vs the fittings that come with the kit:

20160308_184702 by Brett, on Flickr

Here is the low pressure hose from the tank hooked to the fuel center:

20160308_184754 by Brett, on Flickr

I did get alot of the wiring ran this weekend. didn't really take any pictures. However, I did get a new tool. I needed a heatgun so the wires looked and fit nice. I picked up this Wagner gun for a bit over $20, works great:

20160308_184823 by Brett, on Flickr



Also, I noticed that Summit is now offering a $100 rebate on most of the FiTech kits. Now is a great time to pick one up! I missed the date range by a bit, so I got boned on this deal.

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I got all the fuel lines ran today. The hose and AN fittings actually wasn't bad at all once I got the hang of how they worked.

20160309_175216 by Brett, on Flickr

I have the fuel line with the filter going to run on the underside of the monte carlo bar. I need to find a clean way to secure it, prolly use zip ties for now.

20160309_175228 by Brett, on Flickr

The fuel center requires a vent line. I used some brass fittings from Home depot and made a bulkhead fitting going through a hole I already had of the radiator support.

20160309_190933 by Brett, on Flickr

Everything is mocked up and looks good. I just have to actually mount the MSd box and go over the lines and tighten everything up/connect the last few wires and it'll be ready to fire up!

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On the last few steps now! I'm taking this install slow and making sure I do everything as best as I can. I have left a few wires longer then needed, this is to make sure that everything works and I like the routing before cutting them shorter.

Here is a shot showing the fuel center all wired up (the positive terminal needs to stay off so you can prime the center). I'm thinking of maybe getting something to cover the wiring, maybe some sort of plastic painted and bolted to cover the top of the MSD and wiring.

20160311_145537 by Brett, on Flickr

Here's a shot of the handheld unit on its holder. It comes with the little suction cup arm, You don't need the unit to be hooked up all the time, but it also serves as gauges and you can change setting on the fly if you wish. I just set it here for initial start up and adjustment. I'd prefer a more stealth mount under the dash. I have the wiring ran through one of the old heater hoses as my car doesn't have heat currently. The cord is pretty long so routing shouldn't be an issue.

20160311_205431 by Brett, on Flickr

I hope to be able to try and start the car tomorrow. *Finger crossed*

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I ended up running around all day to get the proper PCV valve and such. The EFI unit has the port on the back and my old Edelbrock had the PCV port up front. I also picked up a new breather, sanded it down and sprayed it with a nice semi-gloss black.

I went over all the wires again. It looks good. I also made sure the hood clears with everything on, that would have been a fun set-back.

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How about a video of that first start
I tried to get some videos but I couldn't get the engine to stay running.

Part of it was my fault. I had left the voltage regulator unhooked. Didn't think I needed it or that it did anything since I have a 3G alternator and no amp gauge anymore. But it wasn't allowing the MSD to turn on. So as soon as I plugged the regulator back in I had ignition.

I also need to check the wiring because the little EFI handheld has power all the time. The unit doesn't have power except when the key is turned tho. I'm thinking its going to kill my battery though leaving it this way.

Here's a short video of what it's doing right now. That terrible drone is my Holley red fuel pump in the back.



So I'm taking a short break. Not sure what it could be, timing is that only guess.

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Doesn't sound like you have explosions. Since you have spark I would guess lack of fuel.

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Doesn't sound like you have explosions. Since you have spark I would guess lack of fuel.
Thats what has me a bit puzzled. The fuel center shows its pressurizing the line. I haven't done any more troubleshooting. The point the timing light on it and its getting spark to the plugs.

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Did a bit of troubleshooting last night. The EFI unit is getting fuel and the pumps are working as intended. Only real weak point I can see in my set-up is my cobbled together distributor. I am probably going to look at getting a nice distributor. The cap on my current one has a good amount (prolly 1/4" total) of play in it and I haven't had great luck timing the engine with it.

I've been looking at this distributor, comes with a steel gear since I have a roller cam:

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I got the new distributor in, I also picked up a air cleaner spacer since the base was touching the fuel line and wouldn't allow it to seat all the way. I am still having the same issue where the car will start but then immediately turns off once I stop cranking. I am going to look into issues with the wiring and/pr the starter solenoid.

Here's a couple attempts with the new distributor.


The efi unit squirts fuel in to as soon as you turn the key, so I know it has fuel. The engine starts every time I try, but it abruptly turns off after I release the key from cranking.

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