Zip, I legitimately want to hear your rebuttal to my previous statement.
I addressed a lot of this in a previous post.
Comparing a vicious Pitbull to a vicious Border Collie, or vicious any other small breed is silly, Aaron, and you must know why. It's completely irrelevant. The answers are obvious.
Incidentally. This answer doesn't mean I'm inferring that this or any other breed should be killed off. But to deny that these dogs are more problematic when they do attack
as compared to most other breeds is to deny truth, and is to deny that a problem exists. Understand? My problem isn't with the breed itself: It's with what they are capable of when they DO attack. These dogs can and do seriously injure, disfigure, and kill people, period. I'm not telling you that it's an epidemic- but that is a fact. You don't hear of Border Collie went rogue killing someone stories, Aaron.
So, while it is true that the owner is everything, to deny that more people mistrain (not a word but I'm going with it and you know what I mean lol), abuse, and flat out don't properly care for and supervise Pitbulls is also to deny truth. That's not even including the maniacs who get them and teach them to be nothing BUT aggressive.
When a border collie attacks you or your child, Aaron, you have a very high chance of defending that attack successfully. You have far less of a chance in getting a Pitbull to let go and stop.
So thus your point that you've seen more aggressive smaller dogs is irrelevant. The damage smaller dogs do when they do attack is WAY less severe than the damage caused by aggressive Pittbulls.
So if you have a highly untrained or God forbid abused Border Collie, what you have is more of a... somewhat dangerous annoyance. Yes, it could still hurt you and cause you to need stitches... but you cannot reply to me in good faith that you don't see more of an issue when you are attacked by a highly untrained and/or abused Pitbull.
Is my answer to kill them off? No. And I don't profess to know what the answers are. But to run around making highly irrelevant correlations is solving nothing and denying truth.
So for me, Aaron, I want nothing to do with the breed. My daughter is grown up now, but when she was a child, I would not let her be around these dogs. I could care less if the dog is well trained- for me it's about the dog's abilities should it go off. If you wish to own one, and train it well, and be responsible- hey all the power to you. We need more people like that, obviously. But the facts are that this breed is constantly bred and trained to be aggressive, and to deny that is to deny the truth. Sadly, not every Pitbull owner is interested in having a loving, well trained, intelligent pet. This is not paranoia, Aaron. It's about absolute fact, and absolute capability of a given breed. When my daughter was young I had no problem with her being in the same room as my mother in law's Bulldog, because I knew I could punt that fucker across the room, and break it's neck if necessary. I'm sure I may get tore up some in the process... but I could quite readily stop that action. And as the post I previously on this made alluded to, I have in fact done so a few times over the years. But I'm not doing that to a Pitbull now, am I? Short of a bullet, and I don't carry weapons around in my life, you're not stopping a Pitbull attack until it decides it's done.
Again: That does not mean I'm in favor of killing the breed off. That is not an acceptable answer for me- I love animals. But to deny these facts exist is silly my man, and frankly is to overlook any possible legitimate answers to address this subject.
People seem to get more up in arms about a breed of dog than they do about the safety of human beings doing nothing more than walking around a neighborhood.
For me, contrary to what a lot of people think, (that whole "dogs are more loyal than humans, their love is unconditional" bullshit) I happen to value human life WAY more than I do ANY breed of dog.
There are levels to everything, Aaron. That doesn't mean I don't value my pet's love. I do. But I've never bought into that silly crap about how dogs are somehow better than people because they love unconditionally. I promise you that you would have a whole different feeling about what love means to you and which one is more important if it was your wife or your child being viciously attacked by a dog capable of killing a fully grown human being.