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post #1 of 23 Old October 6th, 2014, 05:19 PM Thread Starter
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Question for the mechanics/techs of MM

So I picked up an application at the Toyota dealer the other day. Guy I talked to didn't seem concerned at all that I had no professional experience in automotive, so I have the idea I'll be changing a lot of oil.

The application has the question I hate most on all applications: "What pay do you expect? $____ per______" I always hate this question because I don't want to put too high and have them not hire me, but I don't want to put too low and make less than I could have.

Well upon doing research, I found out about the flat rate pay (if the job says it takes 2 hours and you're making $10 a flat rate hour you make $20 on the job regardless of whether or not it takes you half an hour or 4 hours) so now I'm even more confused as to what to put down.


Basically, what do the mechanics and techs of MM think would be appropriate to put down?

EDIT: Not sure how much it matters, but I'd like to note that this isn't what I intend on doing as a career, at least not at the moment. It's just another job to try to make ends meet AND fund my hobby lol.

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post #2 of 23 Old October 6th, 2014, 06:45 PM
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I get paid $28 an hour, commission style. So if the book says 4.3 hours, that's what I get. Even if it takes me 2.

Keep in mind, I'm a fully certified Ford Senior Master Tech, so I'd start off with like $15 an hour.

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If you are going to be doing basic oil changes I don't think those guys are paid flat rate (quick lube type stuff).

Just write negotiable and talk about it in the next interview.
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Not a tech but for questions like that, I usually just put "open" or "negotiable." I haven't filed out a job application since I was 18 though so I don't know if that's still an acceptable answer or not.

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Understood, but what would you expect a beginner with no certifications to start at?

Tree'd. Hadn't thought about putting open. Probably will if I can't find a better answer lol. Thanks.

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I was making around $10 and change, as an auto body tech, no certifications. No book time or anything as it was body work at an independent shop. That was a couple years ago.

I had two friends that were Wyotech and UTI grads, respectively, and both ended up making $7.50 at the lowest rungs of the dealerships.
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im the oil change, tire, and brake job guy at the ford dealer here and i get $15 an hour. im taking classes to get certified at the moment.




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Holy balls...I got payed 8 to do tires and oil at a crap hole local shop..granted I quite and the other guy didn't get a raise until 2 years later...then quit a year after lol. I would put 10 or negotiable

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I think the lube people at our dealership make $12.50 an hour and they help us out with brakes and easy things.

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I agree with RDY. put will negotiate. then id shoot for 12.50 to 15 an hour.

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I'm making 19.21 as a lube guy still in my first year... Although I'm working on trash trucks

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12-14$/h would be ideal IMO

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Okay so when you guys say like 10-15 are you talking flat rate or regular hourly?

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If your changing oil you should be hourly...and $15 an hour would be pretty high for an oil changer in my area but I see your from Cincinnati and that's a much different place than the small town I'm from
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I don't disagree, that does seem high, which is why I'm wondering if they're talking hourly or flat rate. if I could fall anywhere in the 10-15 hourly I'd be ecstatic.

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All this talk about 10 an hour and I'm over here turning down any offer that comes to less than $35 an hour. Some that come out to more. Lol. But yeah, I would right open or negotiable on there. That won't be a deal breaker there and you won't denied for putting something too high to start with

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If you are going to be doing basic oil changes I don't think those guys are paid flat rate (quick lube type stuff).

Just write negotiable and talk about it in the next interview.
They do not. They get paid hourly. Lube techs do not make commission. And be glad they don't, b e cause you'd lose your ass changing oil for commission. They make 10 bucks an hour, ish.

As for that question, just put a reasonable amount. They don't look at it too hard anyway. I put 10 an hour I think for my intern position, and when I got hired they offered me more than that. Normally they have it pretty set what they are going to pay. I suppose some companies would, But most won't pay you less simply because you put on your application that you are willing to take less. However, don't cut yourself short, but also be reasonable. Some guy came in a nd filled out an application where I work. He was applying for a job on the floor as a general machine operator and I was the only one in the office, so I took his application from him and placed it on the bosses desk. Well, that question is like 3/4 of the way down the page on the first page and it caught my eye as I was setting it down. The guy put $28 an hour on there. I about shit a brick. Needless to say, he never got a call. That question is just to see if you're in the ball park. If you put something ridiculous like 28 bucks an hour for a $10 an hour job, they'll know you have too high of expectations and won't even call you. If you put 12 bucks and hour for that same job, they'll call you If they're interested and during the interview tell you it pays 10 an hour.

Don't stress that question too much. And yes, if you have no certifications, you WILL be changing oil. They cannot legally let you actually work on cars without being certified. Its a federal law. And no offense, but if you have minimal experience be glad you aren't. Like Marc said, you get paid 4 hours if it takes you 2. You also get paid 4 hours if it takes you 8, and you won't have a job long. And with minimal experience, you'd lose your ass on commission. Good techs don't become good techs by getting thrown on the floor to be a tech working for commission without going through some training with experienced techs. And with no certifications, you'll be working your way from the bottom. And if you do want to be a tech someday, there is nothing wrong with working from the bottom. Because that's what you would be doing even if you decided to waste 30 grand on Wyotech

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I was making around $10 and change, as an auto body tech, no certifications. No book time or anything as it was body work at an independent shop. That was a couple years ago.

I had two friends that were Wyotech and UTI grads, respectively, and both ended up making $7.50 at the lowest rungs of the dealerships.
Yup. That being why those tech schools are bull shit. Youll start out at the bottom regardless. Better to just start out at the bottom with no certificate from a bull shit tech school, and not be 30 grand in the hole for it.
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No offense taken, trust me. I'd rather make hourly atm. It's just less complicated. Plus I have no problems changing oil.

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Good deal man. Being a Tech on commision is a double edged sword that takes a lot of practice to make good money at. However, if that's what you want to do, then work towards it. In 10 years there will be a huge shortage of techs. Not as many people are entering the profession, and in 1p years, a lot of them will be retired. Also, I changed oil for a summer awhile ago, it's not a bad job at all. I'd throw 10 bucks an hour on there and not stress it.
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