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post #61 of 96 Old April 30th, 2016, 10:58 PM
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Do you know of any instances of someone being molested in a bathroom by a transgendered person? Because I sure as hell don't. I can think of quite a few cases of kids getting molested by people in churches though.

I get that this is a polarizing issue but this wave of hysteria is completely unwarranted. Feel free to continue being judgmental though.
I'll start by saying I think the whole thing is being over hyped here.

But what people are "fearing" is not their kids being molested by transgender people. It's allowing a a "normal" molester into the bathroom and having no way to remove them until they actually molest someone. A molester could walk into the opposite restroom of their gender and simply state they feel like they're that gender. They don't need to be dressed or act as that gender normally would. They can simply go in and wait in the restroom until they want to come out and there's nothing illegal about it.

So what you really need to look at is simply child molesters in restrooms (not transgender child molesters) and I'm sure that's not completely uncommon. People are not freaking out over true transgender people in the bathrooms. They're freaking out over a made up fear (IMO) that now this will allow child molesters into the bathroom legally.

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Bathrooms (actually restrooms) are not really the main problem. As a commentator put it if a male transgender walks into the women's bathroom they undress privately in a stall. If a woman transgender walks into the men's bathroom they can't use the urinal so they would undress privately in a stall. It is highly likely that this is already happening without anyone being the wiser.

It is the sports locker room or other public dressing rooms where people undress completely in view of others to shower or change clothes. As has been posted before perverts (and yes I call a man who wants to strip down naked among pre-teen girls a pervert) are already taking advantage of the new laws. All they would have to say is that they are a male transgender lesbian. That's a man who says he thinks he a woman but likes dressing as a man because he likes women. I didn't make that up. The term male lesbian was coined by a psychologist almost 30 years ago. It made national headlines.


And I realize I am being a little less than inclusive but I'm against taking away the rights of 99.7% of the population to appease 3/10% (if its even that high).

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I dont have a problem with the bathroom thing. I have a problem with the term "transgender". What kind of shit is that? You can dress like a women all you want, cut anything off and sew some new shit on and take some hormone pills. Yet you are NOT a women. You still have a Y chromosome and no female reproductive organs. Same goes for a woman who sews on a johnson. Nothing is getting rid of her X chromosome or the fact she has female reproductive organs.

I think we need to get rid of all these ridiculous terms to call people like that. It insinuates that you can change your gender, and you cannot. You are born what you are born whether you cut, sew or pop pills, your genetic makeup doesn't lie. If you still want to dress up as a woman and call yourself Sally, then whatever. Even call yourself a she, I dont care. But these liberals are running around saying they are becoming a woman and are going through a "sex change". When all you are changing is the cosmetics. You're still a man or a woman at your core.

Do I care enough to protest or petition this? Hell no. It doesn't affect me in the least so I really don't care that much. That's just my personal opinion on this whole "trans" garbage.

I think I am am going to be a Transninjaturtle. If I think I am a Ninja Turtle and start living as a Ninja Turtle, then I am a Ninja Turtle. Funny thing is, if I was serious about that the liberals would eat that shit up and tell me I am great for being my true self.

Heres for some pondering. Liberals constantly make fun of conservatives for being bible thumpers and disregarding science when it comes to climate change and evolution. So why do they disregard science when it comes to gender?






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I'll start by saying I think the whole thing is being over hyped here.

But what people are "fearing" is not their kids being molested by transgender people. It's allowing a a "normal" molester into the bathroom and having no way to remove them until they actually molest someone. A molester could walk into the opposite restroom of their gender and simply state they feel like they're that gender. They don't need to be dressed or act as that gender normally would. They can simply go in and wait in the restroom until they want to come out and there's nothing illegal about it.

So what you really need to look at is simply child molesters in restrooms (not transgender child molesters) and I'm sure that's not completely uncommon. People are not freaking out over true transgender people in the bathrooms. They're freaking out over a made up fear (IMO) that now this will allow child molesters into the bathroom legally.
Agreed. As if it wasn't a problem before but no one knew then either. A slender male pedophile could have easily - for years- dressed as a women and walked into a private stall. It's definitely happened before, it's just no one knew because they hid it. Like they will continue to hide it. These bathroom laws wont change that if someone already did it before.

The locker room thing is a bit scary like Eagle said. I avoid those locker rooms though. I used to hate as a kid walking into a locker room and some 50 year old man is showering 5 feet from me naked as the day he came into this world. It made me feel so uncomfortable. I just get changed in a stall when I go to the pool or whatever. Not for the reason that I care than much anymore about getting changed in front of people, more so that there is usually kids in there at the pool and I know I wouldn't want some grown man changing in front of my kids.
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The locker room thing is a bit scary like Eagle said. I avoid those locker rooms though. I used to hate as a kid walking into a locker room and some 50 year old man is showering 5 feet from me naked as the day he came into this world. It made me feel so uncomfortable. I just get changed in a stall when I go to the pool or whatever. Not for the reason that I care than much anymore about getting changed in front of people, more so that there is usually kids in there at the pool and I know I wouldn't want some grown man changing in front of my kids.
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Did you not play high school sports?


I played golf, so no I didn't shower in locker rooms with people. But that's not what I am talking about. I am talking about the old hairy man at the YMCA showering and lathering his balls within an arms length of a 5 year old kid. Do I consider him a perv? no, because that's what the locker room is intended for. However, I think it's a little inappropriate, which is why I would never do that in a public locker room with children present. Since I wouldn't want my children seeing that, I choose not to do it in public locker rooms to respect other people.

Again, I am not saying it shouldn't be allowed. I just think its gross.

That wasn't the point of the post though. I was simply referencing Eagles post that it's pretty gross already that straight old men do it in front of young boys in the locker room. Add in the fact that it is now potentially legal for a "transgender" to use a locker room like that, you're asking for issues. Don't dare say anything to the girl with a schlong in the locker room though, because shes just being who she was born to be
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A molester could walk into the opposite restroom of their gender
This is my main issue with the whole thing. Yes, this could lead to a molester/pedophile going into the opposite bathroom. But what's stopping them from doing it now? Chances is are if they are willing to do that in a public bathroom, they don't give a shit about the consequences. I don't know about you guys, but I've never met someone who was open about being a molester/pedophile. They tend to keep that to themselves.

If a woman identifies as a man and wants to hang out in the bathroom while I take a shit, more power to her.

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This is my main issue with the whole thing. Yes, this could lead to a molester/pedophile going into the opposite bathroom. But what's stopping them from doing it now? Chances is are if they are willing to do that in a public bathroom, they don't give a shit about the consequences. I don't know about you guys, but I've never met someone who was open about being a molester/pedophile. They tend to keep that to themselves.

If a woman identifies as a man and wants to hang out in the bathroom while I take a shit, more power to her.

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I agree the rallying cry that the objectors are using that pedophile could just walk in is a little silly.

I dont think they are necessarily 100% focused on the trans people in the bathrooms though. I think they are trying to shed light on the ridiculousness that we are heading towards as a society.

Take the supporters of this for example. If you disagree with them and you are personally against this, they will call you hatful, a bigot, and anything else to show that you are just a horrible person for not agreeing with this. When that isn't true, we are all entitled to our own opinions without being labeled as hatful. Am I allowed to oppose this measure without being hatful? You bet. Because I do oppose this measure, and I dont really give a shit if you want to dress like a women and use the womens bathroom. Hell, its probably already been happening for years, it's not like dudes just started dressing up as ladies in the last 6 weeks.

So with that said, you have to ask yourself, why the push for a law change? They have probably already been using the womens facilities for years and no one has noticed. Why the push? To make it official? I personally think it's just so they can push their agenda further and further into the government. This law would change nothing that hasn't already been going on.

And if you (not you, Rhythm, I just use the term you in general) need an example, look at any sitcom now a days. There is almost ALWAYS a gay or trans person in them, always. Yet gay people and trans people make up less than 5% of the population. So we could safely say that not every family has a gay or trans person in it, and not every group of friends has a gay or trans person in it. Yet if you do not include one in your sitcom, you are not showing accurate diversity! No, accurate diversity is less than 5% of the population identifies as gay or trans, therefore if you want accurate portrayals of that, then less than 5% of the shows would have a gay or trans person in it. Yet I bet the number is over 90% of sitcoms have a gay or trans cast in a roll. Which is because a small group of people start flipping shit if they dont see a roll like that and crying that they are hatful bigots. Or the newest insult, "I bet you're a Trump supporter!"



Back to the bathroom thing. I think there is much more behind this, and one must look at the big picture to see what is going on. And not just focus with tunnel vision of whether we are opposed or supportive of the trans bathroom issue. It's everything as a whole that people are mad about, not this one simple thing that doesn't change anything that isn't already happening.
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So with that said, you have to ask yourself, why the push for a law change? They have probably already been using the womens facilities for years and no one has noticed. Why the push? To make it official? I personally think it's just so they can push their agenda further and further into the government. This law would change nothing that hasn't already been going on.
I agree that the law change is ridiculous. Whatever trans people have been doing for years has worked just fine. No need to get the government involved.

I think instead of arguing about this, we should figure out why there is a massive fucking gap on both sides of the stall door. That shouldn't be a thing. I've got a buddy stationed in Germany and the stall there have no gaps. If you want to make a law, make one to fix that.
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I agree that the law change is ridiculous. Whatever trans people have been doing for years has worked just fine. No need to get the government involved.

I think instead of arguing about this, we should figure out why there is a massive fucking gap on both sides of the stall door. That shouldn't be a thing. I've got a buddy stationed in Germany and the stall there have no gaps. If you want to make a law, make one to fix that.
On that note, we should just ban children from bathrooms. That solves all the problems. Little fuckers sticking their heads underneath the stall doors to see if someone is REALLY in there. GTFOutta here kid, trying to deuce in peace!
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I agree that the law change is ridiculous. Whatever trans people have been doing for years has worked just fine. No need to get the government involved.

I think instead of arguing about this, we should figure out why there is a massive fucking gap on both sides of the stall door. That shouldn't be a thing. I've got a buddy stationed in Germany and the stall there have no gaps. If you want to make a law, make one to fix that.
but if they get rid of that gap i have to find another way to creep on motherfuckers....
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I don't understand why this is the shit this country is worried about dealing with right now. At the same time, if people were really so worried about kids getting fucked by grown men/women then they'd have been protesting the Catholic church for the past decade instead of worrying about transgenders pissing where they want. The fact that this story has been so discussed on either side blows my mind.
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I don't understand why this is the shit this country is worried about dealing with right now. At the same time, if people were really so worried about kids getting fucked by grown men/women then they'd have been protesting the Catholic church for the past decade instead of worrying about transgenders pissing where they want. The fact that this story has been so discussed on either side blows my mind.
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I'll tell you why it's being discussed now. Smoke and mirrors. They always bring up something that doesn't even matter to get people all fired up over. We should really be worried about what they're hiding right now as people fight over bathrooms.

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And lol at the gaps in the stall doors. I agree.
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Did you not play high school sports?
I am of the opinion that until you are age 18, no matter what you "identify" as you are to use the bathroom/locker room of the gender you are born with.

I also am of the opinion that the moron parents who let their 5 year old kids "pick" their gender identity are causing undue harm to that child.

Until you are 18 years old and making your own choices in regard to your life, you must obey some fairly simple and non-problematic standards.
And, even if some kid goes into the women's room because he "identifies" as a woman, if he's staring at the girls in there, or even worse attempting to have sex, then he's every bit the peeping tom and should be punished appropriately.

It's really a non issue.

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On that note, we should just ban children from bathrooms. That solves all the problems. Little fuckers sticking their heads underneath the stall doors to see if someone is REALLY in there. GTFOutta here kid, trying to deuce in peace!
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Parents letting their 5 year olds choose what gender piss me the fuck off. A 5 year old believes what he or she is told. Or they are just messing around or going through a stage. All kids go through different stages, and no 5 year old is mature enough to decide what gender he is. That is if you actually believe you can decide what gender you are

I agree with Woodman. When in grade school and high school, you use the the bathroom of the gender you are born with. One thing I absolutely hate is parents saying "You can't accept my children the way they wish to be! What kind of monster are you?"

Well that's a two way street my friend. What kind of monster are you for forcing my child to be okay with this in middle school? It's okay for you to force my children to conform to your standards, but we aren't allowed to require that your child use the bath room of the gender they are born with in middle school?

Or just put up a co Ed one person bathroom in the school and say "Quit your bitching, use this one." That's not good enough for them though, they demand the use of the regular one just so they can be a pain in the ass.
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I don't understand why this is the shit this country is worried about dealing with right now. At the same time, if people were really so worried about kids getting fucked by grown men/women then they'd have been protesting the Catholic church for the past decade instead of worrying about transgenders pissing where they want. The fact that this story has been so discussed on either side blows my mind.
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I'll tell you why it's being discussed now. Smoke and mirrors. They always bring up something that doesn't even matter to get people all fired up over. We should really be worried about what they're hiding right now as people fight over bathrooms.
I don't know if I completely agree it's smoke and mirrors. I'll start by admitting I haven't really cared too much about this and really looked into how this started.

From what little I have looked at this started when Target decided to announce it's policy that transgender people could use whatever bathroom they identified with. What most people seem to not pay attention to is that this was always Target's policy and they never changed it. They simply came out with a public statement stating their policy.

What I find odd is why did Target make a public statement simply to restate their policy? If they were changing their policy or someone was pressuring them to answer a pointed question I can see the public statement. But what's the point of restating your policy when no one is asking about it? I don't see it as the government creating smoke and mirrors as Target made the statement and everyone would know a statement like that will take off like wildfire in the media.

To me this all falls back to Target. They knew how the media would react and they made a statement knowing the outcome. If it was a policy change I could see it. But to make a statement that's not actually changing anything to get a rise out of the media is their own fault (and any lost revenue as a result).

Again, maybe someone was asking for the pointed question of what is their stance on the issue. But I haven't seen anything where someone was asking them to publicly reiterate their stance.

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Free advertising? I haven't heard Target mentioned so many times in my life. Any press is good press?
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Free advertising? I haven't heard Target mentioned so many times in my life. Any press is good press?
Their stock has taken a $2.5B hit. I'm not sure I would call that good press.

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I honestly never thought to use a bathroom in Target at all.
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