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Question for tech gurus. GPS tracking...

Hey guys. So recently my company has been starting to GPS track us guys in the field and we have been trying to fight back. Yesterday I was on my laptop on a mobile WiFi device by Sprint and they tracked my location somehow. Location services are off on my phone. My truck does not have a GPS locator installed. Could they have tracked my location via the wifi device that I have? Or could my laptop have some kind of GPS tracking on it? Or can my phone for work be tracked even though location devices are off since my company owns the phone? Everything is through Sprint. It is driving me wild trying to figure out how they track me. I was doing my job but the point of big brother is driving me nuts. If my laptop is tracked can the use of a vpn cover me even though I'm running off a mobile wifi device?

I need to use my laptop on the go but my company doesn't want me using it inside business hours as I'm supposed to be visiting customers. The thing is sometimes customers need documents asap and I need to get on my laptop to do it.

I'm thinking of running wifi off my personal phone and using my personal laptop for work, but if it comes to that I might as well find a new job. Ideas?
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If the WiFi card is through a cell carrier they can track you pretty close with triangulation between 3 or more cell towers. Laptops like my MacBook have gps, some others might as well, depends on how much control your co has on the laptop if they can track you even though you're on vpn. Some software will also request location. I know firefox is always asking me when I visit websites like tmobile. Anything cell tower related they can get pretty close.

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You say sprint wifi so is that an LTE/wimax or does it just say wifi?

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If the WiFi card is through a cell carrier they can track you pretty close with triangulation between 3 or more cell towers. Laptops like my MacBook have gps, some others might as well, depends on how much control your co has on the laptop if they can track you even though you're on vpn. Some software will also request location. I know firefox is always asking me when I visit websites like tmobile. Anything cell tower related they can get pretty close.

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You say sprint wifi so is that an LTE/wimax or does it just say wifi?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-F...tioning_system
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They knew exactly where I was like pinpoint location.

I'll have to look at this hot spot closer. It's a spring pocketwifi by ZTE. 306ZT. Could they have used that to pin point me?

I feel like it was my wifi hot spot that got me
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They knew exactly where I was like pinpoint location.

I'll have to look at this hot spot closer. It's a spring pocketwifi by ZTE. 306ZT. Could they have used that to pin point me?

I feel like it was my wifi hot spot that got me

Yes, anything with a radio can be used to triangulate your position. Your hot spot, your cell, etc.

The question is, why are they tracking, and why are you against it?
I'm all for not having the company know where I am at any given time, but if you're out and about for your duties, they should be able to know where you're at and that you're not slacking off.
A few years ago I had an assistant IT tech who would disappear for hours at a time and come back red eyed. I enabled the tracking on his company issued phone, and saw he was on the beach. Went there cameras rolling, caught him toking up. He was fired on the spot.
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That looks to be LTE. Here's some fun bathroom reading.

http://www.rohde-schwarz-wireless.co...hdeSchwarz.pdf

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I'm a little confused here...

They supply you a company laptop yet don't want you using it inside business hours?

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I'm a little confused here...

They supply you a company laptop yet don't want you using it inside business hours?
I think he's more concerned with them tracking his physical location at all times.

For example, my work provides me a cell phone, and I use it for business purposes. Because all phones have the capability to track you, my company could, if they wanted, use it to find my location at any given time if the phone is on me. I have to have the phone when I'm on call, and durin the work day, but other than that, it's not really any of their business where I am. It's a little disconcerting to know you're being monitored so closely, but on company hours, that's what they're paying you for, so I don't have an issue with it, but I wouldn't want them tracking me on my personal time, and the only way to do that is to power off the device.

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I think he's more concerned with them tracking his physical location at all times.

For example, my work provides me a cell phone, and I use it for business purposes. Because all phones have the capability to track you, my company could, if they wanted, use it to find my location at any given time if the phone is on me. I have to have the phone when I'm on call, and durin the work day, but other than that, it's not really any of their business where I am. It's a little disconcerting to know you're being monitored so closely, but on company hours, that's what they're paying you for, so I don't have an issue with it, but I wouldn't want them tracking me on my personal time, and the only way to do that is to power off the device.
It's really not that hard to stop. I have a phone for work also and don't want them tracking me. So I carry the phone around when I'm required. When I'm not required I leave the phone at home. Phone's are not tracking devices to people, they are only tracking devices to the phone. If the phone's not on you then it doesn't track your location.

So when you're on the clock or on call you carry the company phone around. When you're on your personal time you leave the company phone at home. The problem a lot of people have with that idea is they also use their company provided phone as their personal phone. In that case, it's part of that choice to not have your own phone.
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