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post #1 of 25 Old August 12th, 2014, 12:41 AM Thread Starter
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Hello guys I'm in the process of buying a tubular k member for my 2009 to offset the extra weight for my glass roof, I've searched a lot and it seems like UPR (26#) and BmR (24#) are good choices since I will be reusing my stock a arms / frpp springs and struts. I do plan on adding either brands arms and possibly getting coil overs but that wouldn't be for a while! So with that being said which k member will play best with my stock components for several months until I upgrade the rest.

Also my car is not set up for drag racing or course racing, I drive it 1-4 times a month but I will take it to the strip eventually.

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I would go with the BMR. I have the BMR on my car and it's awesome. It fits well and everything fits with no issues. My brother has a 2000 Bullitt with the UPR and the quality seems lower and the fitment wasn't as good.

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BMR for sure

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post #4 of 25 Old August 12th, 2014, 11:00 AM
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Hello guys I'm in the process of buying a tubular k member for my 2009 to offset the extra weight for my glass roof, I've searched a lot and it seems like UPR (26#) and BmR (24#) are good choices since I will be reusing my stock a arms / frpp springs and struts. I do plan on adding either brands arms and possibly getting coil overs but that wouldn't be for a while! So with that being said which k member will play best with my stock components for several months until I upgrade the rest.

Also my car is not set up for drag racing or course racing, I drive it 1-4 times a month but I will take it to the strip eventually.
Well, in all honesty....they should work pretty similar, assuming that Brand U has a quality manufacturing procedure for the K-Member. Their S197 K-Member is a copy of ours.

That said, I am not sure if they used our K-Member to make their jig, or not. If they did, I have faith that our (BMR) K-Member will fit better, because we re-engineered our K-Member after they released their copy of ours.

I always recommend going with the innovators, and not the imitators....but, I can definitely see why some people will purchase the less expensive option.

As for A-Arms, they make such a big difference in the dynamics of the car. The steering, braking, handling, suspension movement.....they help tremendously. Keep in mind, Brand U does not offer tubular A-Arms. We do, as you likely know.

Thanks for considering our components, and if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask me.

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The upr one is not much cheaper than the the BMR unit. Order the BMR one from AM and use the forum discount code. BMR parts ar going on my car after I buy another daily. I love that they check the forums and help people and they have awesome customer reviews.
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BMR is the only one I would consider.


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Well, in all honesty....they should work pretty similar, assuming that Brand U has a quality manufacturing procedure for the K-Member. Their S197 K-Member is a copy of ours.

That said, I am not sure if they used our K-Member to make their jig, or not. If they did, I have faith that our (BMR) K-Member will fit better, because we re-engineered our K-Member after they released their copy of ours.

I always recommend going with the innovators, and not the imitators....but, I can definitely see why some people will purchase the less expensive option.

As for A-Arms, they make such a big difference in the dynamics of the car. The steering, braking, handling, suspension movement.....they help tremendously. Keep in mind, Brand U does not offer tubular A-Arms. We do, as you likely know.

Thanks for considering our components, and if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask me.

Good luck!
I'm glad BMR is taking a more aggressive route with UPR's blatant copying of your product.

BMR K-member all the way.

If you get their A-Arms with the taller ball joints you will want a bumpsteer kit sooner rather than later.



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Wow thanks a lot guys! I'll be buying the BMR k members very soon with some LCA! I'm excited to get it in red!

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I'm glad BMR is taking a more aggressive route with UPR's blatant copying of your product.

BMR K-member all the way.

If you get their A-Arms with the taller ball joints you will want a bumpsteer kit sooner rather than later.
Thanks Whiskey.

And just to throw it out there, we have been seeing more and more bent/snapped "tall" ball joints, in the 18mm variety.

I am working on integrating a caution/note to customers who are using the "tall" versions for handling. I may even discontinue the tall 18mm versions.

I feel MUCH more comfortable directing people towards the 19mm Tall versions....as they have proven to be much more durable. The only downfall is, the 2005 - August 2009 cars will need to either modify their ball joint mounts....or upgrade to a newer spindle.

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Wow thanks a lot guys! I'll be buying the BMR k members very soon with some LCA! I'm excited to get it in red!
AWESOME!

Let me know if you have any questions.
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Thanks Whiskey.

And just to throw it out there, we have been seeing more and more bent/snapped "tall" ball joints, in the 18mm variety.

I am working on integrating a caution/note to customers who are using the "tall" versions for handling. I may even discontinue the tall 18mm versions.

I feel MUCH more comfortable directing people towards the 19mm Tall versions....as they have proven to be much more durable. The only downfall is, the 2005 - August 2009 cars will need to either modify their ball joint mounts....or upgrade to a newer spindle.

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AWESOME!

Let me know if you have any questions.
There was a guy over on S197 Forum in the Corner - Carver section that drilled out his 05-09 spindles to fit 19mm ball joints. Since the hole is only expanding 1mm I doubt it negatively impacted the strength of the spindle and frankly isn't that difficult to do correctly. That might be worth testing if you guys are feeling frisky!



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Even if the quality was the same I would go with BMR, their customer service definitely sets a standard in the industry that many other companys could learn from. Just my 2 cents

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There was a guy over on S197 Forum in the Corner - Carver section that drilled out his 05-09 spindles to fit 19mm ball joints. Since the hole is only expanding 1mm I doubt it negatively impacted the strength of the spindle and frankly isn't that difficult to do correctly. That might be worth testing if you guys are feeling frisky!
I've had road course customers doing this for several years now, with no issues. I was leary the first time I "suggested" it on Robin Riners AIX car....but, so far so good. I havent seen any issues yet.

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Even if the quality was the same I would go with BMR, their customer service definitely sets a standard in the industry that many other companys could learn from. Just my 2 cents
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Two Cents:

Brand U's k-member is lighter because it is chrome-moly. Brand B's is mild steel. Also, Brand U decided not to manufacture tubular a-arms after seeing Brand B's a-arms fail (break apart), multiple times. It seems that the OEM arms with upgraded bushings are the way to go.
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What brand B had their A-arms break apart?


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What brand B had their A-arms break apart?
The brand IzzyWhite45thGT has chosen to purchase.
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Brand B has continued to update their arms. I haven't seen their arms break "apart". Yes there was an issue at one point but they took their designed and made it stronger. So to me brand U didn't design arms because of brand B had an issue. I'm also taking it as brand U had no where to start their design from and didn't attempt to engineer it on their own.

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Why the hell don't you guys just say BMR and upr?

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Yep, BMR for me .... Just ordered their K-Member and A-Arms

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Why the hell don't you guys just say BMR and upr?
The 2 companies are trying to not drop product names since there is 2 different company representatives in this thread.

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The 2 companies are trying to not drop product names since there is 2 different company representatives in this thread.
I am sorry, did not notice the second one.

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