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post #41 of 60 Old June 2nd, 2015, 03:11 PM
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I never said it ran worth a fuck.

Nor did I say there was zero sludge under the valve covers.

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I never said it ran worth a fuck.

Nor did I say there was zero sludge under the valve covers.
Well at least we can agree that running the engine on one or two quarts of oil is a VERY BAD IDEA.
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Well at least we can agree that running the engine on one or two quarts of oil is a VERY BAD IDEA.
No way man! It's perfectly fine to run it on 2qt of oil, some dude on the interwebz told me!

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Is using water a bad thing to flush it out with? ? And no I'm not a moron I stated clearly the reason that ford uses 6 quarts is because extra capacity is needed in extreme conditions that is why high performance motors have larger oil pans. I also said it can run on 2 quarts under very low load and more than likely not have much damage if caught because the oil is still in the motor it just gets frothy. But I guess just disregard what I say because apparently I'm a moron ?
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No way man! It's perfectly fine to run it on 2qt of oil, some dude on the interwebz told me!
Yeah, probably the same guy who uses water to flush out the crankcase. :
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Yeah, probably the same guy who uses water to flush out the crankcase. :
You're right, he said the wetter the better???

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Yeah, probably the same guy who uses water to flush out the crankcase. :
Brake fluid works better

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Just so many good ideas on this website. How much does a quart of oil weigh and what time can I shave off the 1/4 ?

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Just so many good ideas on this website. How much does a quart of oil weigh and what time can I shave off the 1/4 ?
Is that 1/4 of a mile or 1/4 of an inch? :


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Here's the way it works with the motor oil. The oil pump picks up oil from the bottom of the pan, through the pickup tube and screen, then into the pump. From there the oil goes into the crankshaft, through the crank main bearings and rod bearings. Oil is also pumped to the top of the heads to lube cam journal bearings, lash adjusters pump up, oil is dispersed along the top of the head lubricating rocker bearings and springs, etc. The timing chain tensioners and VCT system also get oil under pressure to operate. The oil also has to pass through the oil filter during this process.

Knowing all this remember...the oil drains back into the pan through the use of gravity. It follows small porous passages and makes it's way to the pan to be recirculated. Yes an engine could idle with only 2 qts in it, but I would never do that. The oil has a long way to go before it comes back to the pan and 2 qts is not enough to keep the oil pump from starving for oil especially if the engine begins to rev. You always want the oil pickup tube to be deep in oil, not pulling oil from an inch deep bath where it WILL begin to cavitate and pull air/oil mix.

Keep the oil level up!

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Here's the way it works with the motor oil. The oil pump picks up oil from the bottom of the pan, through the pickup tube and screen, then into the pump. From there the oil goes into the crankshaft, through the crank main bearings and rod bearings. Oil is also pumped to the top of the heads to lube cam journal bearings, lash adjusters pump up, oil is dispersed along the top of the head lubricating rocker bearings and springs, etc. The timing chain tensioners and VCT system also get oil under pressure to operate. The oil also has to pass through the oil filter during this process.

Knowing all this remember...the oil drains back into the pan through the use of gravity. It follows small porous passages and makes it's way to the pan to be recirculated. Yes an engine could idle with only 2 qts in it, but I would never do that. The oil has a long way to go before it comes back to the pan and 2 qts is not enough to keep the oil pump from starving for oil especially if the engine begins to rev. You always want the oil pickup tube to be deep in oil, not pulling oil from an inch deep bath where it WILL begin to cavitate and pull air/oil mix.

Keep the oil level up!
Absolutely correct! I was just to lazy to type all that to correct the idiot who was puking incorrect info.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but, these motors will develop a valve tick when they don't have enough oil. Valve tick will be a slight to loud ticking sound that speeds up as your rpms increase. As long as you don't hear valve tick you probably haven't caused any problems. If you do get low enough that you aren't lubing your valves or cams, you will cause excessive wear and make your engine start to burn oil faster or eat your cam bearings. If you ignore that warning sign, you will destroy your engine (oil pump, rod bearings, rings, cylinder walls, etc.)

I always tell people to check their oil before an oil change. If you notice that you are low on oil, start doing periodic checks as appropriate. Maybe check after a couple days, then a week, then a few weeks then a couple months. Of course the frequency depends on how many miles you drive. An engine can start burning oil for many reasons but, as long as you keep oil in it (clean oil), they will usually run for a long time without failing. What ever frequency you decide to check your oil, make sure you increase it if you ever notice oil burn. It sucks to have to add a quart of oil every week but, I know some people in the past that have had to do it and their car/truck ran for years that way. If you drive a company truck, checking oil is often a daily requirement.

I mentioned clean oil, because going too long without an oil change (everyone argues how long is too long) can lead to oil excessive wear and oil burning or other problems.

My advice is to put oil in it until you are at the proper level and then to listen to see if you hear any strange sounds or other signs of problems. Continue to do regular oil checks before driving the car until you either figure out how often your car burns a quart of oil or if the tech only added 5 quarts to start from. The reason that everyone recommends that you learn how to take care of your car yourself is because there are so many incompetent techs out there that have no idea what they are doing. If you always rely on someone else, you are just rolling the dice.


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IM PUKING OUT WRONG INFO?!? HE JUST SAID EXACTLY WHAT I DID AND YOU AGREED ROFL
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IM PUKING OUT WRONG INFO?!? HE JUST SAID EXACTLY WHAT I DID AND YOU AGREED ROFL
How did he say the same thing as you? You said it is perfectly fine to run the car on 2qt of oil.....you sir did in fact puke out wrong info. If you can't comprehend that, well that is not our fault.

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I always tell people to check their oil before an oil change.
One should always check the oil level immediately AFTER an oil change as well as before. That applies especially when someone other than yourself has performed it.


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IM PUKING OUT WRONG INFO?!? HE JUST SAID EXACTLY WHAT I DID AND YOU AGREED ROFL
You clearly are a special one arent you....
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You clearly are a special one arent you....
He could just be yanking our chain and pretending to be a dumbass.
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He could just be yanking our chain and pretending to be a dumbass.
You guys please stop mudding up the threads. If you have something of value to say, state it. After that restrict your endless bickering to PMs. The name calling does not add anything to the thread and simply makes it difficult for people to find info in the threads in the future.

Obviously it is never a good idea to run a car with less than the recommended amount. A larger amount of oil will take longer to break down and will hold more contaminants than a lesser amount. The engine keeps an amount of oil from the oil pan flowing in the engine(I don't know the excact volume required). The remaining oil in the pan would have to be enough to keep the oil pick up submerged after taking into acount sloshing due to G-Forces and inclines the car may be at.

Without knowing the absolute minimum oil level to keep the oil pick up submerged, I'd say that it would be a pretty dumb idea to run the car with two quarts. Even then I wouldn't recommend running a car at the minimum. If we did know that figure, it would be useful information so we could say whether or not this guy's car was ever starved for oil. If someone has actual data on that rather than a guess then speak up.


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You guys please stop mudding up the threads. If you have something of value to say, state it. After that restrict your endless bickering to PMs. The name calling does not add anything to the thread and simply makes it difficult for people to find info in the threads in the future.
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The only person who can add anything of further value to this thread is the OP and since he hasn't left any feedback about his engine since May 28th, either his panic attack is over with his engine alive and well or it's completely toast and he's too upset to tell us so.
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